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MacKenzie explained his actions in 1993. Talking to a House of Commons National Heritage Select Committee, he said: "I regret Hillsborough. It was a fundamental mistake. The mistake was I believed what an MP said. It was a Tory MP. If he had not said it and the Chief Superintendent (David Duckenfield) had not agreed with it, we would not have gone with it." MacKenzie retracted the apology in November 2006, saying he apologised because the newspaper's owner, Rupert Murdoch, had ordered him to do so, stating: "I was not sorry then and I'm not sorry now".[163] MacKenzie refused to apologise when appearing on the BBC's topical Question Time on 11 January 2007.[164] The above was taken from Wikipedia. It is basic journalism to check sources. MacKenzie was the most outspoken critic of Liverpool fans. Why weren't others as vocal?

Was he the only one? I don't recall any other papers going to town on the Liverpool fans in the same way that The Sun did.

Possibly not the worst player ever to pull on a Saints shirt but certainly gives the worst a run for their money.

Too late!

I see that Kelvin McKenzie was giving the copper who lied about the gate at Hillsborough a hard time in his column in The Sun today and is saying he is going to sue. Kelvin McKenzie was the editor of The Sun at the time and was responsible for its appalling coverage of the tragedy. To lay the blame for the way his newspaper chose to cover the event tells you all you need to know about the type of people Murdoch employs.

Bloody hell, I wonder what she would flash if WHU won a cup? She really needs to get busy with that razor though. For those with staying power, did you see the pictures of the Hull City lass? What on earth is going on there?

Perhaps you are on a decent salary UJ but to a lot of us £67K is a great deal of money. I was on £40k with company car, paid petrol etc 15 years ago. I am now on £25k with no benefits. I can tell you that £67k seems like a lot to me now. If I had stayed in the other job I would probably think it average.

Yep, lots of new builds going up in Ashford, Kent with low deposits.

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carne

Money is supposed to be the root of all evil. As an inanimate object you might wonder why it could cause so much trouble! The problem is not with money as such, it is with certain people's attitude towards it. Give lots of it to people with feelings of self entitlement and you will probably create monsters.

aerosol or ball type?

wraps

Yes I do. You are clearly the Cape Crusader of Camden Town and one of the many Superheroes that we are so lucky to have looking after us. Quite frankly I am shocked that you only get paid a paltry £50k for the work you do for us. It is a scandal.

I thought his leaving had more to do with a fall out with his bro? I believe his work is based in New York where they pay more don't they?

He kept us up just about but for me was far from convincing when he was here. Granted he wasn't here long,

If MPs salary was raised significantly all that would happen is you would get the same people you have at the moment earning much more money. I think it is the same as the nursing profession and the like. "Decent" people, as Batman calls them shun the job because of many other reasons other than salary. They would be either further removed from the issues that ordinary people face. As Pap says, if you want more and fair social change, put MPs on an average salary. They wouldn't have to go and speak to the oiks like us every 5 years then. They would know exactly what the issues were for ordinary folk.

I agree but they do tend to overspend on players in general. I think we should play hardball over the fee. He has to be worth more than £15m to them.

So the only people in the public sector who should get a pay rise are the MPs. The rest of the public sector who have had their pay frozen for several years will have to pay more taxes to pay for the MPs pay rise. Is that fair?

Okay lets look at what people earn - The average wage here is about £26,500 Washing dishes on a submarine £50,000 MP salary due to go up to £74,000 plus expenses Care workers £12,804 Nurses £26,616 Ambulance Staff £22,854 Civil Servants £20,330 Adele £27,540,000 The Queen £36,100,000

plonkers

Not ITK in the least but I think he will be off to Utd in the summer. He wants to leave and Ron wants players who want to play for the club. Given what they paid for Shaw I would say the Clyne is worth more than £15m but we shall see.

Agree with this 100%

If there is money to pay MPs more then it can only come from somewhere else in the public sector. They have voted themselves a payrise when they are cutting staff numbers and have frozen pay for everyone else. I would be more than happy to pay 40% tax if I was earning £50 like Batman. Ok, so Batman wouldn't get out of bed for the £67k as an MP. So what kind of money do you think they should earn? How much would attract people out of the City? Bear in mind they would want a company car and all the benefits they currently get too. Without putting up taxes where do you think this money will come from UJ? I can tell you don't work in the public sector, if you did you would know all about the Government cuts and how they are affecting public servies. Why should MPs get more. Why not nurses. support staff in the Criminal Justice System, the Police, health care support workers etc - all the people who have had to take the brunt of the Government cuts over the last few years. I can tell you that incremental pay rises have just been scrapped so people starting out now on £17k pa do not know when ands if they will ever get an increase. But, who cares, we need to worry about people earning £67k. In my book Batman, that is a big salary for what they do. If they are any good they will get a better job in the Cabinet and then the perks really start to mount up - plus the opportunities for more on the side. Tony Blair may not have made a fortune as PM, but by God he is racking it in know, as did Thatcher. Have you seen what he earns for pitching up and talking b*ll*cks at functions?

Nigel clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. Doesn't he know that the Board has no ambition?