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What was that about lack of ambition? Following on from Pardew's pronouncements in the Echo his team delivered big time. Perhaps now he will get the support he deserves?

Address the "real issues" or just deal with those nasty foreign people who have no right to breath the same air???

What on earth are you talking about and what planet do you inhabit? The same one as your mate Alpine? Where do I say that everyone should be rubbish for three years exactly? I just point out that the likes of you and your mate would be calling for McMenemy's head after one season on Div 2 football because neither of you has one ounce of patience. Christ, and I paid £5 to read this nonsense.

I would suggest that the attacks on Pardew are nonsense and the fact that certain people on here are talking about getting rid of him at Christmas next year if we aren't world beaters despite the fact that this season isn't over yet!!!!

Because every silver lining has a cloud.......the point was that some (like you) were harping on about us not beating teams above us...which we now have done. Still, we are not at home to Mr Postive are we?

Still no support for the manager again I see. What constitutes a "whiff of failure" in your book? Not winning every game? We won again on Saturday you know. We beat Charlton. One of the better sides in this league. Still you carry on having wet dreams about Kenny Jacket. The sad thing is Alpine, it doesn't matter who manages us, you will always find fault with them becase that is your way. Oh by the way. MLT thinks we have the best manager in our division. You might want to start slagging him off too. p.s. We won a trophy at Wembley and are still within a shout of the play offs (which is where we would be without the minus 10) but do feel free to carry on your pathetic agenda about a "lack of ambition".....

My sentiments exactly. It should not even be an issue now but there is an element of the fan base who hav itchy fingers and can't wait to see yet another manager go. Doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

So people can't complain and express their disgust when others go too far? I didn't complain about the Ross/Brand debacle but with daughters of my own found it sickening. I use to help with a Downs child a few years back and can imagine why people get upset when someone goes out to get a cheap laugh at their expense. So you know what to expect from people like him, does that make it okay?

We have no divine right to be in any division and are currently a Div 1 (3) club - hopefully soonish to be a CCC club again. So long as the club give it their best shot we shouldn't complain where we are and just be thankful there is still a club to support. If and when we get to the Premiership the plastic fans will come out of the woodwork again..oh joy...

Another excellent result and all credit to Pardew and the lads. No doubt he will still have people calling for his head when we lose again though.

The Bank?

Certainly they don't seem to understand anything about football and are only happy with the revoling door mentality with managers. They seem to have forgotten that a change of manager can make things worse just as it could make things better (JP and Woote for example). By any standards we have had a decent season after what has gone before, but there is no pleasing some people. I bet if we are 2nd for most of next season the Usual Suspects will be calling for Pardew's head because we are not top. Steve Bruce found the same with a bunch of morons at Birmingham. What is really worrying is that Cortese might well have the Alpine mentality and ditch Pardew if we don't win every single game next season. Someone needs to sit down with him over the Summer and explain how football works.

I know you get off on failure and sacking people, but where exactly by sticking with a manager show lack of ambition? If that was the case then surely the Board should have sacked McMenemy when, not only did he take us down but he failed to get us back up for 3 seasons. We have won a cup and without the -10 we would be in the play off places...no ambition? Utter b*ll*cks. Pardew has show plenty of ambition and if given time will get us promoted. Sacking him next Christmas unless there has been a complete disaster would be stupid. Anyway, given eh season we have had why are we even talking about sacking him FFS??? Oh yes, I remember, we beat Charlton yesterday - another "top" club we have turned over, so lets talk about getting shot of Pardew. You couldn't make this up.

One of the few I have respected over the years was David Owen. Vey level headed and spoke a lot of sense. He belived that cabinets should be formed of thebest people for the job i.e. perhaps a Chancellor from the Lib Dems, Home Sectretary from the Tories etc. Adverserial politics is very destructive. Once the country has voted all parties should pull together for the good of the country. WE also nedd to chaneg the voting system so that the Parliament respesents votes caste.

Did he really shake up the music industry? Maybe for about 5 minutes and then it was business as usual. I think he took on awful lot of credit for things that happened around him and there was a very good piece in the Times yesterday about what a poor manager he was. Still, a very colourful character all the same. RIP.

The book I mentioned earlier (The Only Planet of Choice) is supposed to have benn "channelled" from a highre being over a period of time. It talks about how some forms with different vibrational speeds have learnt to travel without craft. It could be a load of old tosh but it does address all of the questions you can think of and more about why we are here, what is going on in the Universe etc. Some of the concepts are quite difficult to grasp from our current viewpoint and that is why you need to suspend disbelief and go with it. As as been said earlier, this tells us that they are indeed already here and did come in the past to interact with humans. As I say, could be a load of tosh but it does make fascinating reading and does open your mind up to new possibilities.

WE are definately still very tribal and I agree that it would take something huge to pull us all togther, like coming into contact with another extra terristial life form. To an advanced life form I think we would be very scray as we are still quite primitive in the way that we organise our lives. We are still very warlike, despite the catastrophes of the 1st and 2nd WWs there has been armed conflict somewhere on the planet ever since. Can you imagine if we sent a probe to a planet and saw the population killinmg and raping each other on a regular basis...would we be keen to make contact? Perhaps, if they are out there, they are waiting for us to get our act together before making full on contact?

Sorry I don't understand you. I am pro immigratation but controlled immigration. There is a huge racist issue going on in the immigartion debate and that is what I am against. How is that either mental or mad - unless you hate "Johnny Foreigners"?

Surely you will only know if your vote counts for anything once all the votes have been counted? Bit like the X Factor. If you don't vote, you have NO chance of making your voice heard.

If they have been observing us for any length of time they will know that we are a very dangerous race and are probably very wise to keep their distance! Having said that, some aliens (Greys I think) are supposed to be living and working with the Americans so who knows... There are some fasinating books on this whole thing...my favourite being "The Only Planet Of Choice" by Phyllis Schlemmer. It talks about Alien interaction with humans and is a good read. You would need to keep an open mind whn reading it.

Interesting debate about jobs and "immigrants". Did you see the programme on a while ago where the Brits were workshy and the "immigrants" got on with what they needed to do? By the way, we are all techically "immigrants". The USA, Australia, the UK, we all became what we are through immigration. We opened the doors to mass immiration in the 50's and brought in people who were prepared to do the jobs that the Brits didn't fancy. Pretty much the same is happening now with Eastern Europenas doing what the West Indians did. By the way, the incoming figures need to be balance with the outgoing. Plenty of people emmigate too. There is a debate to be had on immigration control, but a sensible debate based on facts and not the racist scare mongering that the BNP perpetrate. Okay, so the major parties have not covered themselves in glory, but to give your vote to a racists outfit on that basis is chilling. Apart from what they will do with immigration (deportation?) can you imagine them let loose on the economy and other major issues? God help us.

Couldn't agree more. He is a typical bully and can't deal with it when he gets played at his own game! It would have been sweeter if Robben had scored in 6 minutes of added on Fergie time but I am still a happy this morning and please some "new" teams are invloved.

I used to spend time with a spiritual healer who had lots of interesting theories about our past. I know a lot of people will scoff at the legend of Atlantis but there is a fascinating theory that they were much further advanced than we are and used more ecologicaly sound forms of energy. She also talked about the early Eygptian pharohs as coming from the stars (one had an elongated head like many pics of aliens) and that the pyrmaids of Giza point to the point in the constellation of Orion where these beings came from. Shame we don't have a real Tardis yet!

Pardew is an experienced manager. He knows what he needs to do and is quite obvioulsy getting there. sadly not as fast as some would like, or is probably possible given the way that transfer windows work. I don't buy this "distracted by cups" line. Many teams have good cup runs when they are also fighting to win their leagues and you don't hear them complaining. Personally I think the more successful your are in more competitions the better for all involved in the club. I just hope that Pardew doesn't read these threads. I don't think that any reasonable fan can complain at the overall job he has done whilst here. We are competitive again, have actually won something at Wembley and I have no doubt that we shall be one of the teams to beat next year. TP spend time judging him on next season before we have finsished this is a bit harsh isn't it? After the manager merry go rounds we have had I find it very odd that some now have decided he should go at some point next season before his team have kicked a ball if we aren't home and dry by Christmas. Surely from what he has done so far he deserves better than that?

There is also an arguement that we ourselves are "aliens" and that life started here having hitched a ride from elsewhere in the Universe on a lumps of rock.