OldNick

I regret putting up the comparison as it has people comparing the 2 when all I wanted to do was show that Nathan was not far behind one of our better players this season.

DT when you are against a player I know Im right lol

As I sadi initially it wasnt putting one player against another but to show that his stats were not far away from a 'hero'. 'Pretty meaningless stats' of shooting accuracy and big chances created seem to be quite important but there you go. We are not going to change each others opinions as I believe he is a decent player for us and you dont.

I was just making a comparison for this season, Redmond gets caned but Armstrong gets plaudits and there is little between them stat wise. Sorry the Bournemouth one was in the cup, I know in the Ings goal he palyed a part but cant recall what he did, come to think of it he was praised for blocking a Liverpool defender

I notice the figures above, it says no goals v Bournemouth!! I thought he was part of Ings goal V Liverpool. Assists are fine if they find an in form goalscorer who scores but assists are not shown if the attempt is missed, that does skew the stats. Messi would get no assists some seasons with the profligate goalscorers we have had (Apart from Danny) Im not pitting one player against another but as with all stats you can pick and choose but whilst SA could be said to have better stats they are not a lot different ( Nathan has had 4 less games) Nathan Redmond Statistics | Premier League Stuart Armstrong Statistics | Premier League Both are integral IMo but perhaps I have a more balanced view than some ( or wrong)

Sadly you are correct. Whatever he does they will hide back into the their shell and when a chance comes they come back in force to spit their bile. I havent seen the Diallo stuff but that just shows how dense some are. I still recall the disagreements I had with fans over MLT !!! who said he was a luxury player etc etc, that was before he really hit his vein of form,the same can be said of Crouch, fans wont have it but he was booed as he used to come on for us!! Shame there isnt the posts from Saintsforever? the former forum to this where you can see the numbskulls saying how bad he was.

I also note that listening to the brilliant Totalsaints podcast ( if you dont listen you really should, and also become a Patron) one of the contributors who also does a fantastic blog, gave Nathan 1 out of 10 for the Fulham game. Totally unwarranted when he gave Minamino 3. Its fine to have an opinion, but to be so warped and unfair is very wrong. We need to be balanced with criticism and not kick one of our squad so viciously.

Im still a fan of Nathan and feel he gets unjustly criticised by fans. He curled in a shot the other day, the keeper dived to save it and pushed it away, fans said he should have scored 5 minutes later an almost same shot was done by one of the fans favourites and it was oooooo unlucky. Whilst I agree he can infuriate, he still is involved in many chances we create. After the game Saturday I was listening to Solent and Blackmore said that he said Nathan didnt have a good game but not having an overlapping full back made his life difficult as his options were reduced. Anyway Im still delighted he is playing for us and hope it carries on.

Redmond creates more than he loses. Played a part in a few of our better chances against Palace

I thought Fulham had a decent full back Robinson?

I have a bottle of air for sale, Im branding it 'Air Gold' IMo has the same value as a Bitcoin, all I need is Musk to endorse it and send it to the moon, then Im quids in. Once I get a person to buy it, they then sell it on many times, splitting it into many pieces to make this ponzi scheme to really work. Of course I / they will cash out just before pulling the rug. To be fair this product has lasted a lot longer than I predicted, and so I may be left rueing not joining the parade.

I just cant take to him, cocky little git, and i also dont get why hes on every channel its like Alex Scott she must have a fantastic agent

crikey the joy of a rare win has softened the brain lol.I thought Bent was more measured myself

i was there, John Jackson their keeper I think. He seemed to crumble with all the insults i was shouting from behind the goa in the Archers I was only 11 ( that was my theory at the time lol )

For those who want to vent their spleen on the game this morning after the game finished at 10pm last night, why close the thread???????

Well we have been back. I still have many memories of the day. It was hard to take it in being 16

Sorry, I didnt mean our games I meant generally

You should have cashed out weeks ago.

I get the time lost to balls out of play, but am I the only one who thinks most games are dull? We certainly had a fair share recently.

I like a good test match , but the county game is dull with few spectators. It is the 20-20 that has generated plenty of revenue and crowds. You have to get to the stage where the County game is really finished as a spectator sport. Who can afford the time to sit at a ground for 3-4 days? Anyway, I expect it is me and tiring of the PL circus as well as the playing the ball across the back line and not much goal mouth action. I watch the Big Match replayed of the 1970's and whilst the quality is lower the the technical stuff we see now, it was a lot of blood and thunder on pitches that our players wouldn't bring themselves to go play on

they are usually against us lol

would be a terrible loss imo

We get a decent manager/players/chief executive/chairman and they are taken away. It is a constant downward spiral of despair. If we finish 8th the manager is poached (apart from Puel where we sacked him lol)so to expect a year on year 8th position or thereabouts is a fantasy. I find it very hard to enjoy football now, and definitely try not to have a Saints hero in the squad as they soon leave,

I notice that Perez has said that games should be reduced to get more younger supporters interested. At first I thought this was madness but when I think about it, so many games are turgid for long periods and so 2 halves of 30-35minutes may not be a bad thing. The players would have more energy and perhaps the games may be more enthralling. I know the traditionalists would rail against this but perhaps the young may find this more exciting, the 20-20 cricket was frowned upon but it inspired younger people, so why not football

I saw that and our back room and youth coaches all the way up must be appalling. There are clubs who seem to have scouts who pick really good young players to bring them through. If you have a dearth of good judges you are going to get poor quality in. Ive said it before, get the Brentford scouts in they have a brilliant set of pickers.