OldNick

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You are a very sad individual that you had to go back and trawl through years of stats just to try and justify your nonsense lol. Play off final, that is not a national competition, or a major cup final that all the major clubs entered. I'm surprised you didn't find somebody who got to the final of the Johnstones Paint trophy. Why not go back and look at the Texaco cup, 1974 I think there might have been somebody then, or Sportsnight with Colemans 5 a side tournament

Please name any of those who also had a Europa campaign , and also finished at least 8th in the league in the same season. A manager of Mourinho's, and Fergusons stature were very happy to win such a cup.

I feel sorry for him, he must feel pretty low. I know some on here will say 'well he earns 100k a week' etc etc , but it is not nice for your own to turn on you. You only have to see the same people who are tasking the rise, get all precious if somebody makes them look foolish on a anonymous forum lol. I don't look at Forster as the main problem, it is the goal keeping coach. He has a goalkeeper that is from the Land of the Giants that seems that wouldn't want to go up on his toes to pick an apple from a tree. Elliott yesterday came and collected a few crosses, Watson should be working on having Forster really dominating his area. Going out to punch or catch the ball. Add to that he is always too close to his line when a shot comes in. I believe that he needs to be rested for a couple of games and let them work on his goalkeeping skills. Then bring him back

Lol,the ZDS I'm not sure all teams played in that and was a different format. I knew somebody would put that lame bit up. Look at how and who we beat on the way to the EFL cup final. I accept many fans are stuck in the positon that they whined and wanted Puel out and so don't want to admit the mistake, but in time people will see that he did a damned fine job without proper backing by replacing Mane and Pelle aka about 30 goals.

Mc Menemy Strachan Puel the only3 managers to get Saints to a proper cup final in my 50 years of watching Saints.

it would suit you if Saints crashed and burned. Puel for all the nonsense on here had 1 transfer window to build a team as when he joined had little time of support. Considering he had to handle to extra Europa games (look how Everton etc suffer from that) a fantastic cup run and finished 8th.He was building a team that played some superb overlapping football (if you don't believe me ,go back and look at Evertyon home, WHU away, the games against Liverpool in the cup as well as a wonderful performance in the cup final) All this with VVD missing for half the season and when we finally got a striker he was injured for spells. Yes we failed to score ina period of home games, but with what we had on offer up front, and pathetic penalty taking are we really surprised. I agree Puel was rubbish with his language in postmatch interviews but that seemed to go against him and so the fans failed to warm to him. Go back and look at our greatest mangers first season and see what happened then.Thankfully if the club had listened to the fans then! Puel should have been kept,but most certainly that MP should never have been appointed

Iam in the minority but I don't think Redmond was worse than Tadic. He put in the terrific cross that Tadic should have headed back for Long or Gabbi,and his long pass to Gabbi for the first goal. Our problem is that we are so slow in our build up it gives teams time to regroup. In the second half when we upped the pace we created so much more

Lol

Our manager cant even say that it was a second yellow card! he is gormless

We seem to have gone back so badly. Those years of progress have been wiped by 2 bad decisions, sacking Puel (whether you like him or not, he would have brought the club a bit more forward) and the appointment of a poor manager

I have banged on about the goalkeeping coach for over a year, as he has not improved one of our keepers, in fact they seem to have got worse

Puel coped with the extra European games, a fantastic cup run and losing VVD, and the club not backing him by getting a forward until later in the season, who then got injured.The team look structured and played some great football. It was unfortunate we didn't score for a few games at home and the fans turned on him. A dull turgid game becomes decent and all is forgiven if you score, sadly our finishing was woeful and we didn't turn the 0-0 into victories.It was a shameful decision to sack him, we now have someone who can do aftermatch interviews but he has degraded our team greatly

Really !! surely it was us being mediocre that made them look decent

perhaps too many flicks when we need something less flashy

you are rewriting it. We played some superb football, and got to 8th and a cup final. We were without VVD and gabbi for much of the season

Puel should never have been sacked. There was a structure to our game, now it is a mess. Everything is too slow. Tadic wasteful instead of heading the ball across goal instead of his weak effort.To me this manager is poor IMO

I believe that if the referendum was run now, after what we all see now, it would be a much different result. All the cards seem to be in the EU negotiators hands, and they are screwing us big time. The Germans are going to steal our banking revenues, and other nations will pick at the rest of our bones. Corbyn cant believe his luck as he pretends he wants to stay in Europe, but really it is best for his plans if we are out, as he can then drive through the madness of nationalisation, something that he is unable to do if we stayed in. The Be-leavers will find that just a basic trip to Europe for a holiday will become hassle again, the hauliers I speak to are dreading the customs clearing at the ports again, and the extra time that will take. If we happen to get clear access of the market and able to opt out of the politics it will be a masterstroke and I will be grateful for the be-leavers but it seems to me, we have sacrificed decades of our nations hard work

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/no-deal-on-brexit-is-the-punishment-for-leaving-not-the-reward/ar-AAtj29b?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp

Those 2 things don't seem to add up to me, but the last seems to be most important. I haven't time to really delve into all this as I have a business to run, although at present there does seem a crisis of confidence in the purchasing public and the footfall has dropped.

Who knows what point I'm ever trying to make lol. Iwas just pointing out that whether it is nett or gross, the size or percentage would be the same. As ive mentioned countless times I voted in, but on some days I am pleased that we are leaving, on others I'm very sad about it. Eg when Iposted up about the pension hole in the EU's finances I was very happy to be cut away,bit then I read bout the Germans trying to knick our banking ,then very sad I suggest the majority of our countries citizens feel the same, not knowing what the hell is going to happen. For the rabid in or outs they are only happy with one outcome

http://www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/10/9/germany-is-battling-for-londons-930bn-a-day-clearing-business

Jeremy Corbyn will be delighted with us dropping out of the EU as that will leave him free to Re nationalise industries, something that you are not able to do in the EU

Does it make a difference whether it is gross or net? Whilst the figures would be reduced as a net figure, the percentages would not be much different, surely

I've got a top of the range computer that has all the gizmos going, Ive no idea how to work it though, the same could be for those using the black box. To be fair there are some decent signings been made. Surely the whole problem was that we haven't signed a forward