NickG Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Sorry can't see old thread on this but sure we had one? FA have said that reinstating us would be considered if they go bust, as well as a bye for B'ham and other solutions, such as lucky loser draw. Interesting that they are not ruling it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 It has been near the top of the 1st page for days Nick http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20311 or this one http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Have you heard something we haven't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Man lands on moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Saints v Brum!!!! bring it on :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBone-Tone Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I very much doubt it as tickets have already gone on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I very much doubt it as tickets have already gone on sale. Refunds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2010 It has been near the top of the 1st page for days Nick http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20311 or this one http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20202 the "poll" bit through me off the scent! Remembered reading something and went over first 3 pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Sorry can't see old thread on this but sure we had one? FA have said that reinstating us would be considered if they go bust, as well as a bye for B'ham and other solutions, such as lucky loser draw. Interesting that they are not ruling it out. Have you heard something we haven't? Article in echo today -back page and page 75 - they contacted FA for comment as above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I very much doubt it as tickets have already gone on sale. Why does that matter? If Pompey go bust then the tickets are worthless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Why does that matter? If Pompey go bust then the tickets are worthless anyway. good point - unless skates insist on their day out and want to see B'ham warm up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I would say the easiest option for the FA would be to give the Brum a bye into the next round. If they have any modicum of sense they will not reinstate any loser's as this will drag everyone out of the woodwork that has lost to Pompey this year. .........What am i on about, after the way the FA have treated those fishy cheaters this year they clearly have no modicum of sense, and so i fully expect a saints Vs Brum game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Refunds? Refunds, Storrie Teller will pocket the money and run:) (This is not the opinion of Saints Web Forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 A truly hypothetical and academic discussion, they won't go out of business this season and we won't get back into the FA Cup.If they were going to go bust it would have been last week, they will wheel and deal and cheat and whinge until someone says righto then here's enough to pay off the Revenue and don't do it again you naughty boys.Then they will go into admin and follow a path very similar to our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 They havent gone bust yet, so quite why this needs YET ANOTHER thread, I#ll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 They havent gone bust yet, so quite why this needs YET ANOTHER thread, I#ll never know. And they won't, they(apparently) have someone interested in buying out the current owners and Gold has offered to lend them 10 million to save the 4 points West Ham have taken off them. That won't be allowed but sooner or later by some back door process or other someone will bail them out rather than lose the points that they gained against Skate. I just knew it was too good to be true, the fishy few wiped off of the football scene for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 And they won't, they(apparently) have someone interested in buying out the current owners and Gold has offered to lend them 10 million to save the 4 points West Ham have taken off them. That won't be allowed but sooner or later by some back door process or other someone will bail them out rather than lose the points that they gained against Skate. I just knew it was too good to be true, the fishy few wiped off of the football scene for ever. At least Gold was honest enough to say why he would lend them the money.... He did say however that the premier league would have to act as gaurantor... To quote a line from a film "were like the Catholic Church, we collect money we dont give it away" which as well as being against EPL rules is another reason it wont happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 At least Gold was honest enough to say why he would lend them the money.... He did say however that the premier league would have to act as gaurantor... To quote a line from a film "were like the Catholic Church, we collect money we dont give it away" which as well as being against EPL rules is another breason it wont happen. Yes but if FIFA allow them to sell players outside the window Gold could pay them 15 million for Belhadj and not even play him,just wait until the summer and sell him on to Barcelona. It would all be so easy for anyone to "loan" them money by the back door now. We probably helped them out by turning up in mass and letting the bastards win thus gifting them another half a million or so. They will not go out of business and will be above us for another year at least, probably more because they'll get parachute payments and "investment". God I hate those bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 If they were going to go bust it would have been last week, they will wheel and deal and cheat and whinge until someone says righto then here's enough to pay off the Revenue and don't do it again you naughty boys.Then they will go into admin and follow a path very similar to our own. This assuming HMRC are as manipulative as the Premier league, which I doubt. Pimply cannot balance the books day in, day out. They are effectively insolvent, and even if they were allowed to increase their astronomical debts even further the borrowing does them no good except buy more time on the merry-go-round. 'Robbing Peter to pay Paul' doesn't alter that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 The very idea that Pompey can sell players outside the window is bonkers and would plumb new depths for football... How is that fair to a Fulham or Hull? Or any club which has had to act WITHIN the law. So, let's say Pompey beat Birmigham and then play a club from outside the Premiership in the next round of the FA Cup... How is that fair to that club which did not have the option to buy one of Pompey's players?? And the window reponed for every Prem club to buy a Pompey cast off?? Tell you what, why not just post a sign above the door of every Premiership club reading: "Welcome to a league of cheating c u n t s who couldn't give a f u c k about fairness and parity and are simply acting in self-interest with no respect for football around the world, but heh what's new..." To think I genuinely wanted them to survive... cheating crooked caniving bastards the lot of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 This assuming HMRC are as manipulative as the Premier league, which I doubt. Pimply cannot balance the books day in, day out. They are effectively insolvent, and even if they were allowed to increase their astronomical debts even further the borrowing does them no good except buy more time on the merry-go-round. 'Robbing Peter to pay Paul' doesn't alter that fact. HMRC don't give a toss about where the money comes from, as long as someone pays it that's all they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2010 They havent gone bust yet, so quite why this needs YET ANOTHER thread, I#ll never know. and yet you post on it like a muttering old man in the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 The very idea that Pompey can sell players outside the window is bonkers and would plumb new depths for football... How is that fair to a Fulham or Hull? Or any club which has had to act WITHIN the law. So, let's say Pompey beat Birmigham and then play a club from outside the Premiership in the next round of the FA Cup... How is that fair to that club which did not have the option to buy one of Pompey's players?? And the window reponed for every Prem club to buy a Pompey cast off?? Tell you what, why not just post a sign above the door of every Premiership club reading: "Welcome to a league of cheating c u n t s who couldn't give a f u c k about fairness and parity and are simply acting in self-interest with no respect for football around the world, but heh what's new..." To think I genuinely wanted them to survive... cheating crooked caniving bastards the lot of 'em. Like you, I'm incensed at the duplicity of the whole thing. As you mention, it is not fair that they could be made a special exception and allowed to sell players outside of the transfer window. Another aspect of that is that when the transfer window was open, they only let two players go, whilst signing in a couple of players, both of whom scored against us. Furthermore, they are hoping to sell a couple of players, Belhadj and Wilson who both played in the FA Cup match against us and Belhadj was also a scorer. So do they want it both ways? Either the two players they signed just before the match should not have been allowed to participate, or else the players that they wish to sell should not have taken part. If they were trading while insolvent, then they managed to gain an advantage with their team illegally. Sod, the f*cking FA. They will act on the basis of not wishing to enter the minefiled of having to adjust the league tables should the Skates go into liquidation. I will hope to take some comfort that HMRC will be totally sangiune about the shenanigans that they are attempting and judge the fate of the Skates purely on the grounds of whether they are solvent or not. I'm hoping that they could't care a toss about the politics of football and will wish to make an example of a football club that has ridden roughshod over their tax affairs. It might well assist them, to consider that Storrie is facing prosecution for financial irregularities and that somebody else at the club dealing with financial matters is also a convicted fraudster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Like you, I'm incensed at the duplicity of the whole thing. As you mention, it is not fair that they could be made a special exception and allowed to sell players outside of the transfer window. Another aspect of that is that when the transfer window was open, they only let two players go, whilst signing in a couple of players, both of whom scored against us. Furthermore, they are hoping to sell a couple of players, Belhadj and Wilson who both played in the FA Cup match against us and Belhadj was also a scorer. So do they want it both ways? Either the two players they signed just before the match should not have been allowed to participate, or else the players that they wish to sell should not have taken part. If they were trading while insolvent, then they managed to gain an advantage with their team illegally. Sod, the f*cking FA. They will act on the basis of not wishing to enter the minefiled of having to adjust the league tables should the Skates go into liquidation. I will hope to take some comfort that HMRC will be totally sangiune about the shenanigans that they are attempting and judge the fate of the Skates purely on the grounds of whether they are solvent or not. I'm hoping that they could't care a toss about the politics of football and will wish to make an example of a football club that has ridden roughshod over their tax affairs. It might well assist them, to consider that Storrie is facing prosecution for financial irregularities and that somebody else at the club dealing with financial matters is also a convicted fraudster. This is the latest bloke who apparently wants to buy them... "The Securities Commission, in March, “banned advertising for the scheme because it does not comply with the law. To be offered in New Zealand the scheme must have a registered prospectus and an investment statement. These documents are not available,” it says. http://www.goodreturns.co.nz/article/976488236/endeavour-ignores-securities-commission.html When, when, when will the FA and Premier League front up???? Pompey has become a cesspit of villainy. Now just shut the feckers down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 This is the latest bloke who apparently wants to buy them... "The Securities Commission, in March, “banned advertising for the scheme because it does not comply with the law. To be offered in New Zealand the scheme must have a registered prospectus and an investment statement. These documents are not available,” it says. http://www.goodreturns.co.nz/article/976488236/endeavour-ignores-securities-commission.html When, when, when will the FA and Premier League front up???? Pompey has become a cesspit of villainy. Now just shut the feckers down. When they grow some balls........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 When they grow some balls........... Well so far they've sat back and allowed owners with a strong rumoured history of human rights violations and gun-running. Wonder how many of our boys are being blown up by Premiership funded landmines this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Well so far they've sat back and allowed owners with a strong rumoured history of human rights violations and gun-running. Wonder how many of our boys are being blown up by Premiership funded landmines this week? Money talks...... bullsh!t walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 When they grow some balls........... So that would be never then. The idea of 'Sport' within the top flight of football has all but vanished and Portsmyths mockery of not only sport, but honest business has made a laughing stock of the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I read somewhere that this maverick Catermole was in no hurry to buy the Skates. He was quite happy to wait a month while doing due dilligence. That at least shows some financial Kudos that appears to have been lacking in the fake sheiks. But Pompey don't have a month. They need that investment or at the very least some sort of declaration of intent right now. I can't see why Catermole would want to take them over anyway at the moment. All he has to do is buy them on the cheap if they are lucky enough to go into administration instead of being liquidated. If he buys in now, he takes on all that debt and a team almost certainly headed for the Fizzy Pop league next season, with supporters who don't even fill their crappy stadium at the moment. What will the attendances be next season if relegated? He'd have to be a financial wizard to sort out who owes what to whom and if so, he'd also fairly quickly work out that there is insufficient meat on the carcass to make it worthwhile picking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I read somewhere that this maverick Catermole was in no hurry to buy the Skates. He was quite happy to wait a month while doing due dilligence. That at least shows some financial Kudos that appears to have been lacking in the fake sheiks. But Pompey don't have a month. They need that investment or at the very least some sort of declaration of intent right now. I can't see why Catermole would want to take them over anyway at the moment. All he has to do is buy them on the cheap if they are lucky enough to go into administration instead of being liquidated. If he buys in now, he takes on all that debt and a team almost certainly headed for the Fizzy Pop league next season, with supporters who don't even fill their crappy stadium at the moment. What will the attendances be next season if relegated? He'd have to be a financial wizard to sort out who owes what to whom and if so, he'd also fairly quickly work out that there is insufficient meat on the carcass to make it worthwhile picking at. The FA and PL will use this in order to buy Pompey an extra month. If they then could get them through the rest of the season they will be delighted to have avoided the mess of re-adjusting the table if they went bust, then they will not give a shi* about what happens to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 You have to wonder if the FA just said "if they go bust, meh, we will readjust the table" then all the fuss n the media would just go away. The FA always seems to procrastinate on these decisions under the guise of given them due consideration, but, ironically, the delays only seem to make matters worse. It's simple - adopt a line early and stick to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 You have to wonder if the FA just said "if they go bust, meh, we will readjust the table" then all the fuss n the media would just go away. The FA have nothing to do with the Premier League and how it is structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 The FA have nothing to do with the Premier League and how it is structured. OK, the point is still valid if you substitute FA with PL. My brain is winding down for the week, please forgive my slip ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I read somewhere that this maverick Catermole was in no hurry to buy the Skates. He was quite happy to wait a month while doing due dilligence. That at least shows some financial Kudos that appears to have been lacking in the fake sheiks. But Pompey don't have a month. They need that investment or at the very least some sort of declaration of intent right now. I can't see why Catermole would want to take them over anyway at the moment. All he has to do is buy them on the cheap if they are lucky enough to go into administration instead of being liquidated. If he buys in now, he takes on all that debt and a team almost certainly headed for the Fizzy Pop league next season, with supporters who don't even fill their crappy stadium at the moment. What will the attendances be next season if relegated? He'd have to be a financial wizard to sort out who owes what to whom and if so, he'd also fairly quickly work out that there is insufficient meat on the carcass to make it worthwhile picking at. Wes, the reason Cattermole needs a month is because he needs to win two fecking rollover lotteries to buy the skates. The guy is a joke. If he can buy Pompey so can I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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