Viking Warrior Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 I thought the Ref did a good job yesterday. Normally we would moan about the standards of Refs we have had in games recently Or was it a case we didnt really care as we were winning and we just enjoyed the occassion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 He was great for a part-time ref. His normal job is playing Sid James in a Carry On tribute act, so the guy done well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 Good ref. Gave the penalty, generally let the play flow. Can't really think of him getting stck from either set of fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 Yeah agree he was good. Their defender should have been sent off for the handball really but glad he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsub Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 Yeah agree he was good. Their defender should have been sent off for the handball really but glad he wasn't. It was not denying an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity' therefore no he should not have been sent off. If he had, for example, stopped the ball with his hand as it was heading towards an open net, then yes that is a red card. Granted RL was just about to head the ball behind the defender but that does not consitute an obvious goal scoring opportunity since the ball was travelling sideways across the goal. No need to thank me for clearing that up for you. Yellow card yes - Red card no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsub Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 and yes I am a Ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 It was not denying an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity' therefore no he should not have been sent off. If he had, for example, stopped the ball with his hand as it was heading towards an open net, then yes that is a red card. Granted RL was just about to head the ball behind the defender but that does not consitute an obvious goal scoring opportunity since the ball was travelling sideways across the goal. No need to thank me for clearing that up for you. Yellow card yes - Red card no. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 Granted RL was just about to head the ball behind the defender but that does not consitute an obvious goal scoring opportunity since the ball was travelling sideways across the goal. Hey, this is Sir Rickie we are talking about. It was as good as in;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 It was not denying an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity' therefore no he should not have been sent off. If he had, for example, stopped the ball with his hand as it was heading towards an open net, then yes that is a red card. Granted RL was just about to head the ball behind the defender but that does not consitute an obvious goal scoring opportunity since the ball was travelling sideways across the goal. No need to thank me for clearing that up for you. Yellow card yes - Red card no. Have you seen the player's post match interview? He states that he did it deliberately because he knew Lambert was behind him and hence he thought Lambert would score. Not arguing that those are the rules but I'm sure people have gone for less than that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 glad he stayed on....what goes around comes around...claus should have walked in 03.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 The lino gave the call for the pen, the ref wasnt going to blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintgaz Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 Thought ref was excellent, especially playing advantage as often as he could and calling it back if advantage not taken!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 The lino gave the call for the pen, the ref wasnt going to blow. A red card would have been harsh in my opinion. If the ref doesn't see the handball himself he is unlikely to go for the red. I thought he did ok. Always in control and nothing to complain about. Did he book any of our players? I can't remember any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 I think the fact that the officials got a ripple of applause when the announcer said that they were going up for their medals shows what a good game they had. My only concern was when Fonte was up ended and went right over on the top of his head on the ground the ref did not stop the game there and then as that could have been very nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al de Man Posted 29 March, 2010 Share Posted 29 March, 2010 The officials seemed pretty anonymous which, to me, is the sign of them having a good game. Well done Mr. errrrr... whatever your name is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 Wow, Saints fans in thinking the ref was OK when we win shocker. I bet if we had lost 4-1 he would have been the worst ref ever to have refereed anyone, anywhere, ever. EVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 The lino gave the call for the pen, the ref wasnt going to blow. How on earth could you know that? He may have looked at the lino for confirmation that it was a handball, he may have done a quick replay in his head before blowing the whistle, you have absolutely no idea what he was thinking at that time. The officials all had a very good game, and for those saying Carlisle should have had a man sent off for handball, they really should have had a penalty in the first 5 mins so it evens itself up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 The officials seemed pretty anonymous which, to me, is the sign of them having a good game. Well done Mr. errrrr... whatever your name is. Exactly. I thought the ref and his linos had a very good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 Stood out from some of the dross we've endured this year - I thought he was excellent. Yes Murphy should have walked but (as someone said earlier) so should Claus in '03 - that set the tone for a sensibly controlled game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 I don't remember them getting booed so I would say that counts as a good game for the officials. However, someone needed to have a word with Carlisle's number 10, Roberts I think, cos he was diving all over the shop first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 It was not denying an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity' therefore no he should not have been sent off. If he had, for example, stopped the ball with his hand as it was heading towards an open net, then yes that is a red card. Granted RL was just about to head the ball behind the defender but that does not consitute an obvious goal scoring opportunity since the ball was travelling sideways across the goal. No need to thank me for clearing that up for you. Yellow card yes - Red card no. I disagree. He was aware the ball was going over his head, he was aware Lambert was behind him, he was aware that he was 8 yards out from goal. He took the gamble that it was odds on Lambert would score with a free header from 8 yards, so better to concede a penalty and have the chance of a miss/save. It was an aboslute "professional" foul, which DID prevent an obvious goal scoring opportunity (let's face it, if Rickie Lambert had been standing on the edge of the box, with no chance to get the ball, the defender would not have raised his arm). I don't think the ref would have been slated for sending him off. Equally, the ref hasnt been slated for the yellow card, but in part that is because we won comfortably. Had the same player scored the winning goal in the last minute, we would all be focused on that "bad" decision. The rule is the denial of the "opportunity to score". A deliberate handball on the line, is stopping a certain goal and merits a red card. Deliberately stopping an opponent, with foul play, from having the "opportunity" to score, is a red card. Rickie Lambert was clearly denied an opportunity to score. Personally, I would have sent him off. but then I'm biased :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamiSaint Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 Yup, it was a clear goalscoring opportunity and he should have been sent off, but otherwise I thought the referee was outstanding all match and shows football league refs can be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 I thought so too. He handled the game really well as there were some real crunching tackles going in. This is probably the first time since being out of the Prem that I haven't thought that a ref has been shi*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 Thought ref was excellent, especially playing advantage as often as he could and calling it back if advantage not taken!! I liked the fact he missed their penalty shout with Harding holding back Kavanagh with both arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 Thought all officials had a good game Think that ref may have reached for the red had the pen been in the last 15 mins instead of first 15 Also did anyone really think the machine that is Rickie would miss ref knew it was 1-0 saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 March, 2010 Share Posted 30 March, 2010 glad he stayed on....what goes around comes around...claus should have walked in 03.. 100% DD - I bayed for the ref to let him stay on. It's a cup final and refs should treat is accordingly. I'm glad he did. Noone really wants to see any player sent off on the biggest days of their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningtonCrescent Posted 31 March, 2010 Share Posted 31 March, 2010 Wow, Saints fans in thinking the ref was OK when we win shocker. I bet if we had lost 4-1 he would have been the worst ref ever to have refereed anyone, anywhere, ever. EVER! Nah, the worst referee (anywhere, ever) was at SMS the day we played (and beat) Dirty Leeds! How does that stack up with your theory? **rolly eyed thingy** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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