david in sweden Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 (edited) Lots is written ...very regularly by contributors talking about how we " lose " Academy players to other sides, and then become successful. The main reasons that lads leave are (1) they really aren't good enough at that age - some develop later and (2) at last count... we're still only allowed to use 11 players at any one time, and you can't keep everyone . However, in anticipation of Charltons game I noted that thier manager Phil Parkinson (Saints junior 1985-88) is YET ANOTHER former Saints youth player. (The Academy is a 21st century creation). Paul Tisdale is currently holding the reigns at Exeter and quite a number of others have taken up managerial jobs at different levels, after having started their careers, or at least having played a significant part of it with Saints. Former schoolboy Lawrie Sanchez (1974-78) also got to be manager of N.I. and Dennis Wise had been around a bit recently as manager at Leeds and Newcastle. Of course, some people will say we shouldn't have let them go and so on, but the list maybe a little longer than you might think. Anyone willing to contribute other names of past juniors, (or even seniors) who made it to the managers office.? Edited 8 April, 2010 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 David Hughes, temporarily at Eastleigh. Shame he got injured as he promised to be an awesome midfielder. Ummm.... Dennis Wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGF Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 (edited) Tony Knapp, Iceland national football team manager 1974-1977 & 1984-1985. Edited 8 April, 2010 by BGF Additional dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I'm sure Christer Warren had a pop somewhere local, non-league, Dorset way too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 David Hughes, temporarily at Eastleigh. Shame he got injured as he promised to be an awesome midfielder. Ummm.... Dennis Wise? Dennis Wise was on our books as a youth team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Ian Baird and Martin Foyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Nick Holmes, Ian Dowie. TBH though, if you look at the sheer number of junior and senior players who have passed through Saints over the years, its surprising more dont surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Nick Holmes, Ian Dowie. TBH though, if you look at the sheer number of junior and senior players who have passed through Saints over the years, its surprising more dont surface. If the criteria is Academy players/Apprentices, then Holmes would qualify but not Dowie. Shearer of course had a brief encounter with management last season, so he would count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo_saint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Alan Shearer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Sir Alf ..... ok may have been slightly too old for the academy ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 John Sillett. Saints career a little before my time but remember the Cov Cup Final win as if it were yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 David Hughes, temporarily at Eastleigh. Shame he got injured as he promised to be an awesome midfielder. Ummm.... Dennis Wise? David Hughes such a waste Paul Tisdale ex youth doing ok manager wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I know Tommy Widdrington (at Salisbury with Nick Holmes) started at Wigan but, I don't know at what age he joind Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Alan Knill at Bury, Steve Davis asst man at Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Does being a bar manager count? We had loads of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Anyone on here remember Ted Bates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Anyone on here remember Ted Bates? As a manager,yes. Doubt many will remember him as a player though,especially on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Jeff Kenna had a good first season in management with Galway Utd. Followed by a pretty poor season with St. Patricks' Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Tim Flowers has been caretaker manager at a couple of clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 April, 2010 Share Posted 9 April, 2010 Tim Flowers has been caretaker manager at a couple of clubs. at Hull with Steve Wigley helping Dowie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 9 April, 2010 Share Posted 9 April, 2010 at Hull with Steve Wigley helping Dowie Yeah, he tends to follow Dowie about, was with him at Cov and QPR too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 April, 2010 Share Posted 9 April, 2010 Tim Flowers has been caretaker manager at a couple of clubs. GK coach at Chelt for a while too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 9 April, 2010 Share Posted 9 April, 2010 Jeff Kenna had a good first season in management with Galway Utd. And you couldn't even call what he ran that club on a shoestring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Carlton Palmer at Stockport (I think) obviously not a youth. Dodd, was Matt Sven ever assistant manager with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Neil Maddison's been knocking around at Darlington for a while now, always get the caretaker job when they sack a manager, think he's a youth coach there by trade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 12 April, 2010 As a manager,yes. Doubt many will remember him as a player though,especially on here. well of course, that WAS a long time ago..but getting back to the original topic..yes quite a lot of former players have ventured into coaching and management. I did consider that some of our former Academy lads who didn't make the cut at 19, made their way up through non League and lower league teams and eventually got the most unenviable job in football ..namely managing a " not-so-successful " team. As for them ...they may have learned a lot from the coaches they had at SFC, whilst the journeyman players cum coach-manager have probably picked up a lot more along the way. The real success stories are those who are good tacticians and have players that are " coachable ". Many of the leading managers did not play at the highest level, and few were ever international players of note. Although there are some successes... in general...good players do not make good managers. Ian Dowie is on his third ...? fourth club ? at Hull and doesn't look too promising just now and his main claim to fame was getting C. Palace in the play-offs some years back but apart from that ... not much to write home about. Others may get some success but will eventually lose their jobs when they have to sell their best player(s) to survive and the team never recovers and is relegated. Tough life, but good to see that there are those who at least try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I'm sure Christer Warren had a pop somewhere local, non-league, Dorset way too... Think it may have been Wimborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Was ****erill ever a youth player? If so he managed Woking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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