Arizona Posted 14 May, 2010 Share Posted 14 May, 2010 Alonso looking useful in practice, Red Bull still looks like the team to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 14 May, 2010 Share Posted 14 May, 2010 The first qualifying session will be very interesting. The slower teams should still fall out but the 7th driver to go could be anybody - Barrichello lost out last time. The tightness of Monaco means getting a clear lap will be almost impossible. Could see the fromt runners going out early in the session with plenty of fuel & staying out until they get a banker lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2010 A crash for Alonso in final practice puts him out of qualy. He will start from the pits. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 I'm actually nervous about a race for the first time since Brazil 2006. The start counts for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Should be a good one Ponty. Awesome showing fom your man in qualifying. Thought he was unlikely not to be the Pole on pole. Where did that come from though? Good set up or does Monaco just suit the Renault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Updates, updates, updates. We've been working so hard this year. Plus Rob loves Monaco, which helps a lot. Being a short and relatively slow track Monaco is a great equaliser but, nonetheless, there has been a hell of a lot of work, at the track and at the factory, put into the R30. I just hope Rob gets a good, clean start and Webber doesn't do anything daft at turn one. I think he's probably responsible for more missing front wings than any other front-runner this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 I really hope Webber doesn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2010 I'd love for Kubica to win this one. Have to say the look of the R30 is starting to grow on me aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Will be interesting to see what happens with Alonso. I can se him spending the entire race up Chandhok's gearbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 race like this you would expect hamilton to do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Did anyone ever play Formula 1 98 on the Nintendo 64? In that on the Monaco track you could cause a mass pile up at the hairpin and wipe out half of the grid in one accident. Would be nice start to the race today as I cant see there being much going on otherwise, perhaps one of the tail enders might take a slide into the wall but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 (edited) brundle on the grid before hand is quality.. Edited 16 May, 2010 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 How did that happen? Safety car out after 1 lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Button out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Alonso stuck behind Di Grassi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Quite entertaining for Monaco. Shame about the start though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Alonsowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Jeez, Webber is drop-dead gorgeous :smt049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Chandhok nearly got decapitated by Trulli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Will be interesting to see if Schumacher's last corner overtake sticks. Seems like the FIA have constructed yet another get out of jail card for Ferrari though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Will be interesting to see if Schumacher's last corner overtake sticks. Seems like the FIA have constructed yet another get out of jail card for Ferrari though. Na, Mosley's & the FIA's love affair with Ferrari ended a few years ago. Besides the personnel in the FIA hierachy has changed. The FIA are no longer "Ferrari's International Assistance" If it had been Alonso passing Schuey a few years ago, of course the FIA would have invented a "No Ferrari is allowed to be passed in the Antony Noghes corner" rule and disqualified Alonso, but in these times I can't see anything happening. There is a line just before the pitlane exit that I believe no overtake can be done by when the safety car is going in. Alonso was still ahead as they both went over the line so it appeared to be a perfectly legal move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Aren't Ferrari saying that there's a rule that says no overtaking on the final lap if the SC is out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Ah well shut my mouth, Schumacher has 20 seconds added to his race time http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8685542.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Here you go: Article 40.13 of the Formula 1 sporting regulation states: "If the race ends while the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Here you go: Article 40.13 of the Formula 1 sporting regulation states: "If the race ends while the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking." But what if the safety car is 'un-deployed" DURING the last lap? To me, the above law is ambiguous. It is saying that if the safety car is still needed on the last lap it will still come in early (i.e. Before the finish line) which is exactly the same action that the safety car would take if it was called in before the end of the race (during the last lap.) I think mercedes are right to appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Bloody hell. What chance do we all have when the commentators, stewards, teams and drivers appear confused about the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Had to leave early and missed the last 10 minutes, so didn't see the incident. From reading the reports it sounded like Alonso was caught napping, but if that is indeed the rule then Schumi deserved his penalty. Another driver who deserves a slap is Rubens for chucking his steering wheel out into the racing line after his shunt. Silly boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 No way Schumacher deserves a penalty. The last time a race finished under SC was, I believe, Australia 2009. The SC pulled in but yellow flags were waved and the SC boards showed. Yesterday the green flags waved as the SC pulled in. I think he was entitled to go for it. Stupid rule anyway, just have them finish properly behind the SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 No way Schumacher deserves a penalty. With Damon Hill as the ex-driver cum steward, of course he did :smt081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Seems that the issue was not so much with the rule itself, but rather poor communication from the control desk. If they expected the race to end under safety car conditions they probably should have communicated that to the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Seems that if the safety car is out when the leader crosses the start/finish line on their final lap, then it's deemed that the race will finish under the safety car - it just has to pull into pit to allow the winner to take the chequered flag. What they should've done is continued yellow flagging/SC boards even after the safety car pulled in, instead of green flagging, which would've made it perfectly clear to all that no overtaking was allowed - and obviously communicated properly to all teams that this was the case, if it turns out they didn't. I just wish they'd have just taken each other out during the move, as I hate them both with a passion!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 This Schumacher thing is such a non-issue. The rule isn't even ambiguous IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Besides, more pressing is how come RB hasn't been penalised for throwing his steering wheel onto the racing line (to be scooped up by the Hispania) after he'd crashed. Surely that is absolutely dangerous and completely unambiguous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmgDGDLVUqo 15 seconds in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Besides, more pressing is how come RB hasn't been penalised for throwing his steering wheel onto the racing line (to be scooped up by the Hispania) after he'd crashed. Surely that is absolutely dangerous and completely unambiguous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmgDGDLVUqo 15 seconds in. Rubens has tried to say he was attempting to get out of the car quickly, despite it being obvious to anybody watching that he was having a little bit of a hissy fit. Still not sure I agree with you re Schumacher, none of the drivers looked to me like they were coasting to the line so clearly nobody knew what was going on. In fact, part of the reason Schumacher was able to pass Alonso was the wheelspin he seemed to pick up as he tried to put his foot down and get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Rubens has tried to say he was attempting to get out of the car quickly, despite it being obvious to anybody watching that he was having a little bit of a hissy fit. Still not sure I agree with you re Schumacher, none of the drivers looked to me like they were coasting to the line so clearly nobody knew what was going on. In fact, part of the reason Schumacher was able to pass Alonso was the wheelspin he seemed to pick up as he tried to put his foot down and get going. In my opinion Alonso panicked when Schumacher came alonside him, booted it and lost the rear. It didn't look to be a case of Schumacher taking advantage of a miscontrolled Ferrari. The rule is unambiguous though. It says to me that if the last lap starts under the safety car then it ends with no overtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Besides, more pressing is how come RB hasn't been penalised for throwing his steering wheel onto the racing line (to be scooped up by the Hispania) after he'd crashed. Surely that is absolutely dangerous and completely unambiguous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmgDGDLVUqo 15 seconds in. Totally agree. Absolutely stunned that nothing has been made of it - even more so as the next car to drive past drove over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 As an interesting aside, Karun dragged Barrichello's steering wheel all the way round into the tunnel where it popped out from under his car and was then run over and pinged out by Bruno Senna in the other HRTF1 car. The rumour is that it is still in working condition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 17 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2010 The wheel or the Hispania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 The wheel or the Hispania? To be fair, if you where to find a fully functioning Hispania, I'm sure that the team themsleves would love to know how you managed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 The wheel or the Hispania? Well, not Chandhok's by the end. That was nasty and could've been a lot nastier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 17 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2010 There have been a few near misses with heads over the years. Anyone remember the Nurburgring in '97. It was Villeneurve's last ever win, anyway at the start the two Jordans collided and Ralf's car was lauched into the air by Fisi. Ralf's left rear came within inches of Michael's head. Two years later at the same circuit, Diniz rolled over in a Sauber. I think his roll bar failed and the top of the airbox dug in to the soft, wet earth. I guess it shows there will always be danger in F1, no matter how "safe" it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 18 May, 2010 Share Posted 18 May, 2010 Its likely to be the only way an F1 driver is killed - witness Henry Surtees accident last year, and there have been a couple in lower formulae where cars have rolled on top of armco or concrete walls and killed the driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al de Man Posted 19 May, 2010 Share Posted 19 May, 2010 Redbull celebrations in the team pool. You'll notice that a couple of Getty photographers gets in the pool with several thousand pounds worth of kit to capture some great shots whilst ruining everyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 May, 2010 Share Posted 19 May, 2010 Talking of dodgy photos of Red Bull personnel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 19 May, 2010 Share Posted 19 May, 2010 oh my god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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