So just who DO you support?

[dubai_phil]

Reading the threads the past week or so, and the differing reviews of the matches, an outsider would wonder just why we bother.

 

I paraphrase but

 

KD is no good, doesn't command the box, rooted to his line, distribution is poor, long hoofs upfield

 

Butterfield hasn't got it, is a meh player

 

Seabourne, everyone wants Martin back in, can't pass, just hoofs(MKD threads)

 

Fonte, allowing players to get in behind him which never happened last season (Merrington)

 

Harding, not firing, not getting to the by-line, crosses awful, Dickson should come in

 

Oxy - great player superb potential why does he get subbed (Manager is worried about burning out a 17 year old kid who's body is not yet fully developed)

 

Hammond - a waste of space on the team sheet

 

Morgan - Overrated, luxury player DM who doesn't tackle, AM who doesn't create

 

Puncheon - Everyone hates him so I will boo him every time he touches the ball, too complex, no decision making can't shoot

 

Lambert - drop him, unfit, lazy, disinterested

 

Barnard - oh finally no complaints yesterday

 

So at the end of NA's first week a neutral reading the forum would believe that the only players we want to see in the team at the moment are

Barnard, Dickson, Holmes and a fit again Lallana, oh, and Bart for a change

 

So, my question for the more regular followers of football, the loan window is open, who will you sign, who will they replace and what are their attributes?

 

The consensus is we need 3 players

 

Names peeps, give us some proposals

 

For me

 

CM Nicky Butt OR a Robbie Savage Clone

 

Winger - no idea but an Antonio CLONE if not himself, NOT another midget winger

 

CF - Big lump to hold the ball up so that Connolly & Barnard can play off him if RL out. RL plays a lot wider during a game so would still work. An Emile Heskey Clone NOT a quick midget

[iansums]

I went yesterday with my Middlesborough supporting mate , it is always interesting to hear his views. said 'you need a Nicky Butt'.

[saintalan]

I support the Saints, always have always will!

[MarkSFC]

Until yesterday I thought a speedy right winger was top priority. I'm not do sure now. I thought Alex Ox-C looked like he is becoming settled and st times looked superb. Maybe getting someone else right now will stunt his development a little. Also I just wonder whether maybe Lallana will go out there as NA seems to like righties on the right and lefties on the left!

 

Perhaps wait till jan and sign Antonio permanently rather than a stop gap now?

 

Defensive CM is paramount. Butt/Case type of player to let Morgan attack. I think Hammond and Morgan never really knew who was doing what role...sitting or running! Butt is available isn't he?!

 

Another striking option is obvious. A loanee will be difficult I suspect. I think we should go for Vassell as could also play down the right if needed. Experience and would buldoze a few defences. Not prolific higher up but maybe great here.

 

Surprised he hasn't gone any where yet so may be easier to get now.

[Viking Warrior]

I support saints through thick and thin rain snow or blizzards .

 

We need a couple of players. i thought holmes and dickson looked good when they came on.

 

I don't think we have much of an effective and attack minded midfield. It is so sterile and defense minded. Maybe that is a legacy of AP. It was only in the second half that NA seemed to realise this and gave certain players and open cheque book to go forward, In the first half we just sat back and our attacking options were limited.

 

So back to players we need Lalanna back. And I understand he is half way through his rehab programme so I expect to see him back early october.

If there are a couple of atack minded misfielders available get them in. if not work on our existing midfelders and get them to be more postive in supporting the forwards and get the ball backin to the danger zone after the first pase attack has broken down instead of passing it all the wat back to kevin Davies

[Turkish]

Nigel Quashie is available. He'd be worth a punt for nowt.

[saint_stevo]

been saying for a while........Robbie Savage CDAJFU

 

Quashie sounds like a good punt, no idea how old he is now though?

[Turkish]

been saying for a while........Robbie Savage CDAJFU

 

Quashie sounds like a good punt, no idea how old he is now though?

 

32, i think he is exactly what we need.

[saint_stevo]

we have a soft core, we need some dirty rotton hair pulling motherf*ckers in the middle

[Deppo]

we have a soft core, we need some dirty rotton hair pulling motherf*ckers in the middle

 

Your mum?

[Block 5]

been saying for a while........Robbie Savage CDAJFU

 

Quashie sounds like a good punt, no idea how old he is now though?

 

Are you mental?

[Turkish]

Are you mental?

 

why? What's wrong with him?

[boxosponge]

i thought holmes and dickson looked good when they came on.

 

S

 

So did I: until I thought that Adkins only did what every other manager seemed to have done for the past two years and attack Lloyd James down the right hand side

[Flyer]

32, i think he is exactly what we need.

 

Having had the misfortune to see him play last season, albeit for 45 mins and then he never played again. He is awful, cant run, tackle or pass.

 

I think Saints need 2 or 3 experienced no nonsense type of players.

[Clifford Nelson]

So did I: until I thought that Adkins only did what every other manager seemed to have done for the past two years and attack Lloyd James down the right hand side

 

Dickson and Holmes gave us width on the left, which before the sub was left to Harding alone. Puncheon clearly has a few strong objections. One is to ever go wide and provide a cross, another is to ever work in partnership with a fullback and a third is never to pass the ball to anybody before he's taken on at least two of the opposition. Taking him off and replacing him and Harding with two traditionally left footed and wing minded players made a magnificent difference.

[Pilchards]

Your mum?

 

 

Stevo and Deppo that made me laugh!

[dubai_phil]

So an out of contract CM who can sit in front of the defense and break up play and has the skill level to play the simple shorter passes?

 

Or a Paul Scholes style all action arms flailing danger on the edge of the box?

 

Nicky Butt fits the bill experience wise at the moment, but is he actually a natural leader / battler on the pitch? (or is that me being a bit Hairist?

 

I always felt Quashie was too much of a Sideways Jim clone.

 

I disagree totally though with the Vassell idea. Rickie is off form and anyone who watched the Reading game with Barnard & Connolly could see that Barnard was fantastic at holding the ball up when played in to feet, in the air? nope, he just got frustrated.

 

Connolly was basically knocked off the ball time and again (also felt that against Rochdale). To me I see Connelly as cover for Barnard, NOT either as cover for RL. 6 games now with RL off form and unfit and we have seen the cost of NOT having cover for him. A big lump on the bench does mean we have a Plan B on cabbage patches by being able to PROPERLY lump it long for a change, whilst having Connolly for craft & Oxy for raw pace

 

What Lumps are around? Are there any young Roy Carroll's in the PL needing some playing time?

[trousers]

I went yesterday with my Middlesborough supporting mate , it is always interesting to hear his views. said 'you need a Nicky Butt'.

 

It wasn't me there with you was it?! I've been saying the very same for the last 4 years!

[Thripp87]

what about spmeone like steve howard? is he in the leicester first team?

priority has got to be a decent cm though, without lallana there is no creativity at all.

[dubai_phil]

what about spmeone like steve howard? is he in the leicester first team?

priority has got to be a decent cm though, without lallana there is no creativity at all.

 

Would be a good shout as cover certainly on a short term loan until RL gets firing on all cylinders (which shouldn't be many more matches) would let RL get 75 minutes in and then scare the opposition to death in the closing minutes

[70's Mike]

me i support the saints shame a few more cannot be bothered to get off their backsides and actually go to SMS

[lordswoodsaints]

Those all seem like valid view points to me,if people are not happy with the performances(I should imagine that is just about everybody) then they deserve to air their grievances.....let's face it not too many players are performing at the moment.

Fans and players have to accept that will always be criticism in the same way as there will always be applause when a player does well,after all the players are paid an obscene amount of money to kick a sheeps bladder around the park,with that large wage comes responsibility to perform.

IMO a little bit of criticism keeps you on your toes,if they don't like it then the choices are perform better or fook off and let somebody else have a go.

Criticising a player(s) doesn't make you less of a fan.

[dubai_phil]

Those all seem like valid view points to me,if people are not happy with the performances(I should imagine that is just about everybody) then they deserve to air their grievances.....let's face it not too many players are performing at the moment.

Fans and players have to accept that will always be criticism in the same way as there will always be applause when a player does well,after all the players are paid an obscene amount of money to kick a sheeps bladder around the park,with that large wage comes responsibility to perform.

IMO a little bit of criticism keeps you on your toes,if they don't like it then the choices are perform better or fook off and let somebody else have a go.

Criticising a player(s) doesn't make you less of a fan.

 

So when Puncheon plays a quality pass, do the fans applaud him or do they say "meh, Puncheon, obviously a fluke"?

[manji]

So when Puncheon plays a quality pass, do the fans applaud him or do they say "meh, Puncheon, obviously a fluke"?

 

There was a knuckle head sat behind me yesterday (you know the type mid-thirties lives with his mum ,saints shirt tucked into his jogging bottoms ,beer gut etc. ) the first touch Puncheon had he started laying into him. I go to a game looking forward to a Saints win. I presume these guys go to a game looking forward to slagging Puncheon off. Maybe it makes them feel better about themselves .

[Deppo]

Defensive CM is paramount. Butt/Case type of player to let Morgan attack.

 

Case is probably available. Not sure how old he is now though.

[lordswoodsaints]

So when Puncheon plays a quality pass, do the fans applaud him or do they say "meh, Puncheon, obviously a fluke"?

 

If you want to take it on a pass by pass basis then I would say that in general a fan will applaud a decent pass,a neat bit of skill or a nice shot etc etc but they will also moan when a pass goes astray etc.

On a game by game basis people will weigh up the overall performance and rate them accordingly.

If a player has a few bad games on the bounce then it is obvious that something is not right and a change is needed.

The opinions that you have quoted are personal opinions and there will be 20k of them most weeks,most will be similar,some will be different and a few will be extreme but on the whole most will agree that a player has had a good or a bad game.

I have been to plenty of games and then read the reports the next day,sometimes wondering if I've actually been to the same game,and I'm sure you and everybody else has done the same.

I have been to games and thought that puncheon has had a decent game but overheard other fans saying he is useless....it's just personal opinion,perhaps they didn't rate him in the first place and that just sticks in their minds.

If you pay your money you are entitled to sit and applaud or rant and rave....it's human nature and personal preference.

[Clifford Nelson]

Puncheon is certainly polarising the opinion. This is interesting in itself, because either I can't see the good things he is doing, or his supporters see things that doesn't happen. I guess it is probably about the number of times something comes off. My expectation is successful product (pass, cross, shot, etc.) twice out of every three attempts. I'm afraid that I don't see that from him. The proof came yesterday, when the combination of Dickson and Holmes were that more successful than Harding and Puncheon, and in my estimation Harding hadn't done much wrong.

[Block 5]

why? What's wrong with him?

 

32 years old.

21 appearances in the last 2 years across 4 different clubs, none of whom paid any cash for him.

I'd say he was well past it, even for a journeyman in this league.

What's the difference between him and Wotton?

[Dr Who?]

32 years old.

21 appearances in the last 2 years across 4 different clubs, none of whom paid any cash for him.

I'd say he was well past it, even for a journeyman in this league.

What's the difference between him and Wotton?

 

He has played at the top level, not that long ago. Surely worth a punt, and we are in divison 3!

[Turkish]

He has played at the top level, not that long ago. Surely worth a punt, and we are in divison 3!

 

exactly, for nothing he is worth a punt, even just on a short term deal until the end of the Jan transfer window. IMO he is better that Wotton and Hammond, and 32 is not that old. Hamman seems to be doing okay for MK Dons and he is older and some people are saying Nicky Butt is the answer to all our problems and he is 3 years older.

[John Boy Saint]

32, i think he is exactly what we need.

 

Quashie!!!! Jeez some folks are blind!! All we would get with him is a Harder looking version of sideways passing Wooton. He was ace for us on so many occasions of demanding the ball from a fellow player then passing it back to them seconds later.

[Junction 9]

Chelsea

[Turkish]

Quashie!!!! Jeez some folks are blind!! All we would get with him is a Harder looking version of sideways passing Wooton. He was ace for us on so many occasions of demanding the ball from a fellow player then passing it back to them seconds later.

 

who do you suggest then know it all? Of course you've forgotten to mention that when he played for us he was playing two leagues higher, it wasn't that long ago that he was playing in the PL. Some people seem to still think we are.

[John Boy Saint]

who do you suggest then know it all? Of course you've forgotten to mention that when he played for us he was playing two leagues higher, it wasn't that long ago that he was playing in the PL. Some people seem to still think we are.

I do not profess to know it all thank you, apart from him being one of a few players to have been relegated from the top flight 2 seasons running Hmmmm. But since he left us in reality he has done chuff all, he obviously made an endearing impression at MK Dons as even despite him scoring 2 goals for them on loan last season in 7 appearances they have not picked him up after being dropped from football by QPR at the end of last season. So there must be someone better.

 

To be honest I would reserve judgement until the next 2 weeks have passed and Nigel Adkins has been able to work with the team solidly, I have to say sat in the Chapel Saturdays game was the first time that I had actually seen Spiderman with any clarity at our end, so NA must have started to change something.