Is Rupert Lowe interfering in team selection and training with SCW influence?

[derry]

Anybody know?

[Huffton]

In Rupertworld no-one knows as much as football as Rupert, so I would say almost certainly.

[NickG]

it's an often posted moan on here but not heard any real rumour or gossip to back it up

[Teddy Nutkins]

As much as dear old rosey cheeks thinks he is good, he would not own up to having anything to do with that ****in **** today.

[Saint Martini]

Unless someone from within Saints (or former) goes on the record and says that he actually does that I'm not believing it for one second. He might discuss his thoughts on the game with the manager but I don't see a problem with that.

[NickG]

my guess is no more than most other chairman - in that the manager answers to him and discusses general plans etc. Doubt if he has anything to do with match day

[Huffton]

Its fairly obvious that we have players who are not being played to save onpaying them an appearance payment, players who could actually contribute to the team. Unfortunately Rupert is so far up his own arse he cannot see that more wins=bigger crowds=more money in the coffers, and he would rather tie the managers hands re:team selection in the hope of saving a few quid in the short term.

[Micky]

Would hate to think that he has any say whatsoever, but where appearance fees are payable then I think he's holding the purse strings tightly closed.

 

If he's meddling in anything tactical then he's a fool.

[NickG]

Its fairly obvious that we have players who are not being played to save onpaying them an appearance payment, players who could actually contribute to the team. Unfortunately Rupert is so far up his own arse he cannot see that more wins=bigger crowds=more money in the coffers, and he would rather tie the managers hands re:team selection in the hope of saving a few quid in the short term.

 

I don't think that is true, Skacel is sulking, Euell is injured, John I believe only got back to uk last night -who do you mean?

[Saint Martini]

Indeed Nick, besides that Skacel has been having injury problems (this week there was a mention in some article he was back in training again, rather misterious what was wrong in the first place) and John has been getting games every now and then.

[derry]

I don't think that is true, Skacel is sulking, Euell is injured, John I believe only got back to uk last night -who do you mean?

 

Huffton has obviously heard the same criticisms that I have. I just wanted to check if others have similar sources.

[Window Cleaner]

Huffton has obviously heard the same criticisms that I have. I just wanted to check if others have similar sources.

 

I have never bought this appearance money business.

If we had to pay Rudi say £2000 for every appearance he makes, then that's a reasonable sum compared to say signing Ryan Smith or Jordan Robertson on loan at say £3000 a week. If you're not playing a player because of "appearance money" but signing others who are, in theory, inferior whilst costing you more money then the whole argument falls to bits. Unless of course there's a biggish whack due to his former club for the very next appearance he makes.Skacel has played what 53 times for saints so it's not at all likely that

the 54th was the lucky number, it would probably be a round number in any case.

In my personal opinion Rudi Skacel isn't playing for us because he believes the standard of our team beneath him.Just my opinion though.

Now if you told me he had a bit of a botched up contract where a certain part of his salary wasn't paid directly by the

club unless he plays, that I could believe.That would explain the new contract in August.

Edited 18 October, 2008 by Window Cleaner

[wild-saint]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

[70's Mike]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

not sure if that is fact or not BUT do not hold your breath waiting for lowe toback down if it is

[wild-saint]

not sure if that is fact or not BUT do not hold your breath waiting for lowe toback down if it is

 

It might not be Fact Mike but thats what he said to me.

[rocknrollman no2]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

If this is true then it means Lowe is up to his old tricks again.

What gives that arrogant duck shooting **** the right to interfere with the team selection?

The sooner he goes the better.

[Rebel]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

the reports at the time said both Hertha and Ipswich agreed a fee with Saints - but wouldn't match Skacel's wage demands - partly because they were both offering him less than we are paying him

 

Jim Magilton was reported as saying this was the reason for move to Ipswich not happening

 

based on the stupid wages Hone and Hoos were paying players I can well believe this!

[Wade Garrett]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

And this is Lowe, the supposed good businessman. He has to leave and cut all ties he has with the club in order for it to move forward. Take that idiot from Jersey with him as well.

[Long Shot]

my guess is no more than most other chairman - in that the manager answers to him and discusses general plans etc. Doubt if he has anything to do with match day

 

 

There you go again; cosying up to Lowe.

[AwaySaint1]

it's an often posted moan on here but not heard any real rumour or gossip to back it up

 

NickG please can you spare us some of your posts,why not just read threads for a change.

 

You posted tonight at the following times on the Saints board:

 

6.45

6.46

6.47

6.49

6.51

6.52

6.54

6.55

 

 

do you just like to read your own words?

 

Shut the f*ck up for 5 minutes.

[Long Shot]

NickG please can you spare us some of your posts,why not just read threads for a change.

 

You posted tonight at the following times on the Saints board:

 

6.45

6.46

6.47

6.49

6.51

6.52

6.54

6.55

 

 

do you just like to read your own words?

 

Shut the f*ck up for 5 minutes.

 

Amen, but he can't help himself he is in love with Rupert

[derry]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

I have a trusted source in the British Embassy in Berlin who confirmed this to me on July 18th.

 

My information is that Lowe won't allow Skacel to be picked and that he was only sub the other night as we were down to the bare bones.

[Guest Hacienda]

Lowe told DM he was the number 1 choice striker this season and would play every game.

 

He was told this, by Lowe when NF decided to come in for him.

 

If that's not interfering then what is?

[alpine_saint]

Lowe told DM he was the number 1 choice striker this season and would play every game.

 

He was told this, by Lowe when NF decided to come in for him.

 

If that's not interfering then what is?

 

Jesus. The more I read on this thread, the more I realise how deep the shiit we are in and the more depressed I am.

[solentstars]

what nonsence:rolleyes: we all know rupert trained the team when we got to the fa cup final and strachan was just the mouthpeice:D

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

If this is true (& I'm not doubting you WS, it's just that players have been known to say the 'right' thing to maintain their own popularity), then I find it ludicrous that we are preventing an international player, willing to fight for his place at a non-top-flight club, from playing, just out of spite. If we're paying his wages, and he wants to play, and the manager considers him the best option in whatever position, in whatever system he wants to play, then he should not be precluded from playing him. If nothing else, if Rudi does well and we still need cash come January, surely his value would've increased?!

 

This has got nothing more than to do with an ego trip, plain and simple, that Lowe's beloved academy can be this club's saviour. What he's overlooking is that the reason most clubs don't blood the majority of their academy in their first XI is not shortsightedness but the simple fact that most clubs realise that most kids won't cut the mustard at whatever level they are at. Very rarely do you get a bumper crop who all come together at once to make it (Man U's Scholes, Giggs, Beckham & the Nevilles etc spring to mind as do the Wallaces, MLT & Shearer for us) and most clubs realise they are likely to produce only one or two top quality youngsters to supplement well thought out signings. Let's be honest, as well as our kids have done at youth level, they've hardly wiped the floor with all and sundry to the extent that you could say they could do so at full league level. I'm all for trying new things to improve our position but this could be seen as a disaster from the outset. I despair at all this, I really do.

[NickG]

NickG please can you spare us some of your posts,why not just read threads for a change.

 

You posted tonight at the following times on the Saints board:

 

6.45

6.46

6.47

6.49

6.51

6.52

6.54

6.55

 

 

do you just like to read your own words?

 

Shut the f*ck up for 5 minutes.

 

get a life! logging my posts -bit obsessed -why are your posts more worthy?

[AwaySaint1]

why are your posts more worthy?

 

Maybe because I am not a stuck record that many posters dispise ?

[Loyal Saint]

Maybe because I am not a stuck record that many posters dispise ?

 

I think you're getting there slowly

[NickG]

I think you're getting there slowly

 

slowly??

[SW11_Saint]

I have no proof whatsoever, and I doubt there's any SCW involvement, but I have no doubt that JP is being "encouraged" by Lowe to play the younger players at the expense of those with proven experience like John, Perry, Skacel etc. just so that he can 'prove' to everyone that his masterplan is sound, and that he knows better than anyone else.

 

The sad thing is, that even though the plan is clearly failing, and what most sensisble people suggested would happen is happening - i.e. the kids are being bullied out of games, getting crushing defeats and deflating their confidence - will make no difference whatsoever. Lowe will continue regardless.

 

Sound like the insane strategy of a megalomaniac? Yes, doesn't it...

[St. Jason]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

If this is true i'm speachless, i dislike Lowe with a passion but this would be an all time Low point. It does sound like Lowe, he has the spite for it, as he's shown by closing the Itchen North as it housed the 'Lunatic fringe' what a way to refer to your customers!!!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

Anathema.

 

Lowe and the phrase back down.

[SW11_Saint]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

If this was any other club, and any other person, I'd say it was a ludicrous suggestion. However, given it's Saints and it's Lowe, sadly it is totally believeable.

 

That he'd keep a player who could help our cause and our youngsters out of pure spite - even when it's harming the club is... well, typical sadly.

 

How on earth did we get back into this situation? Isn't this where Wilde should step in and talk some sense to Herr Lowe? Oh no, I forgot - he's an invertebrate...

[um pahars]

If this was any other club, and any other person, I'd say it was a ludicrous suggestion. However, given it's Saints and it's Lowe, sadly it is totally believeable.

 

That he'd keep a player who could help our cause and our youngsters out of pure spite - even when it's harming the club is... well, typical sadly.

 

How on earth did we get back into this situation? Isn't this where Wilde should step in and talk some sense to Herr Lowe? Oh no, I forgot - he's an invertebrate...

 

Agreed.

 

There seems to be so much stuff coming from various sources for this all to be horeshyrit.

 

I have been hearing snippets for ages now on how Lowe is actively involved in footballing decisions (and I just don't mean telling the manager who we can afford as would be perhaps more normal), and his previous doesn't give me any comfort.

 

My biggest worry with regards Lowe coming back was that he would get involved, undermine the manager (Head Coach) and as a Club we would suffer.

 

Are my fears being confirmed???

 

Did Lowe order an extra training session on Thursday???

 

Did one of our star youngsters complain and feel it was tantamount to burn out???

 

What does our Football Club Chairman think of this???

 

Is he aware (i.e. he gets the Football Club Chairman position and as a trade off Lowe gets the DOF), or is he being duped???

[Alucard]

I spoke to Rudi Skacel a week or so ago and he said to me that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they wouldnt pay the money that saints were asking (not sure how much). When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he wasnt interested and wanted to stay at saints and fight for his place. Skacel was then told by Lowe that if he didnt make the move to Ipswich then he would not play for Saints again.

 

So there we have it the reason from the horses mouth why Skacel hasnt played. On the positive side it surely cant get much worse before Lowe has to back down and let him play.

 

Well I spoke to Rudi Skacel last week and he said to that the reason the move th Hertha Berlin collapsed because they didn't think he was worth the wages he was asking for. When Ipswixh came in and offered the money Skacel said that he was asking for a lot more money than they were prepared to pay for a player who hasn't done anything of note since scoring a few goals against Gretna and Livingston two and a half years ago. Skacel then said he was more than prepared to sit it out at Saints and pick up his huge wages for doing nothing for the rest of the season by which time he'll have accumulated enough cash to retire back to Czechoslovakia. I didn't really speak to Rudi but does anyone honestly believe he is going to tell a supporter it's his fault he's not playing because he's thrown his toys out of the pram.

[derry]

Agreed.

 

There seems to be so much stuff coming from various sources for this all to be horeshyrit.

 

I have been hearing snippets for ages now on how Lowe is actively involved in footballing decisions (and I just don't mean telling the manager who we can afford as would be perhaps more normal), and his previous doesn't give me any comfort.

 

My biggest worry with regards Lowe coming back was that he would get involved, undermine the manager (Head Coach) and as a Club we would suffer.

 

Are my fears being confirmed???

 

Did Lowe order an extra training session on Thursday???

 

Did one of our star youngsters complain and feel it was tantamount to burn out???

 

What does our Football Club Chairman think of this???

 

Is he aware (i.e. he gets the Football Club Chairman position and as a trade off Lowe gets the DOF), or is he being duped???

 

That is what I heard, it's the reason for thread, I just wanted to cross reference with other sources.