Mole Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Anyone else think they should bring out a retro "Lowe" edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 I'll vote for no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wedge Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 As a young supporter, this issue came before my time. I've never been educated as to what this magazine did to Branfoot? All I know is that he wasn't majorly liked...? Just a background to it will do, so I don't seem completely out of the loop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 (edited) he dropped le tiss and tried to force him out of the club in favour of cloggers...we stayed up in spite of him and simply because of matt le tisser... the one game i remember well was the branfoot out protest (a red card protest) one night at the dell v newcastle live on sky...le tiss had been dropped for 5 games or so and due to massive pressure, he was put back in the team... we were 1-0 to the geordies and MLT simply scored the two goals of the seaon in front of me ( i ws stood in the milton) and that was something I will never forget...we won 2-1 on another note...newcastle had a keeper in goal at the time called mike hooper..i dont think he ever played a top flight game again after that... the fan base back then were far more passionate than today, dell or no dell...info was through the ugly and the like and not on places like this... things were different back then edit - also, i dont think you will find a thoroughly decent guy (branfoot) being hated by so many...and when i mean hate it was sheer hate back then....makes anything we do towards lowe like a pantomime Edited 18 November, 2008 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 the fan base back then were far more passionate than today, dell or no dell...info was through the ugly and the like and not on places like this... things were different back then They had every reason to be passionate as the style of play at the time was terrible! Good quality players were expected to aimlessly lump it upfield - now it's pretty but without the quality players... My next door neighbour moved from Reading and quickly bought a season ticket he was distraught when Branfoot followed him. The problem with the UI magazine mentioned was the headline 'I Hope You Die soon' - which was a going a bit too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 As a young supporter, this issue came before my time. I've never been educated as to what this magazine did to Branfoot? All I know is that he wasn't majorly liked...? Just a background to it will do, so I don't seem completely out of the loop! Hiya Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2008 the fan base back then were far more passionate than today, dell or no dell...info was through the ugly and the like and not on places like this... Don't forget the premium rate clubcall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2008 The problem with the UI magazine mentioned was the headline 'I Hope You Die soon' - which was a going a bit too far. It was brilliant. That one edition of the UI was so controversial it put the whole Branfoot Out campaign firmly in the national spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Pretty sure the "Hope you die soon" cover was from the Red Stripe fanzine, not the UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Pretty sure the "Hope you die soon" cover was from the Red Stripe fanzine, not the UI. I think you are right - forgot all about that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Pretty sure the "Hope you die soon" cover was from the Red Stripe fanzine, not the UI. I did buy the fanzine at the time and it did have red stripes on the front... I always thought it was the UI though.:confused: We need confirmation or better still a photo of the front page putting up here. I've done some searches on the net and can't find it, but perhaps others will have more luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 (edited) http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_19960218/ai_n14449862 he won 37 games for us in 3 years Edited 18 November, 2008 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2008 "The Southampton Independent Supporters' Association - formed solely to oust Branfoot - ran his picture with the sick message on the front cover of their fanzine." So which fanzine is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 LOL http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2hUkOe_MBdM&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 "The Southampton Independent Supporters' Association - formed solely to oust Branfoot - ran his picture with the sick message on the front cover of their fanzine." So which fanzine is it? i always thought it was the fanzine On the March....but the UI gets the credit all the time so maybe it was them (aswell?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Think it was called 'On the march' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 I did buy the fanzine at the time and it did have red stripes on the front... In fact, it wasn't either... On The March. Got the two lesser-known fanzines mixed up. I think both had fallen by the wayside by the time I started buying the Ugly, around the late 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 (edited) I'm pretty sure the "Hope you die soon" On the March cover wasn't just a sick statement putting into words Saints fans' displeasure at Branfoots terrible management, but was in fact a brilliant catch phrase of the time that featured in the very dark humoured `Poppet on a swing' sketch from a Harry Enfield TV show. Quality sketch, brilliant use of the catchphrase, but no real malice intended IMO. I could be wrong though... Edited 19 November, 2008 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 he dropped le tiss and tried to force him out of the club in favour of cloggers...we stayed up in spite of him and simply because of matt le tisser... the one game i remember well was the branfoot out protest (a red card protest) one night at the dell v newcastle live on sky...le tiss had been dropped for 5 games or so and due to massive pressure, he was put back in the team... we were 1-0 to the geordies and MLT simply scored the two goals of the seaon in front of me ( i ws stood in the milton) and that was something I will never forget...we won 2-1 on another note...newcastle had a keeper in goal at the time called mike hooper..i dont think he ever played a top flight game again after that... the fan base back then were far more passionate than today, dell or no dell...info was through the ugly and the like and not on places like this... things were different back then edit - also, i dont think you will find a thoroughly decent guy (branfoot) being hated by so many...and when i mean hate it was sheer hate back then....makes anything we do towards lowe like a pantomime you forgot the gesture towards the bench by letissier when he scored.....he more or less indicated 'up yours branfoot'. those were the days when the fans had the last say,nothing like the happy clappy sing a few lowe out chants type of namby pamby cant be bothered sh1te we have today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 (edited) It all seems so familiar, Like a reoccurring dream,perhaps a nightmare would be more apt.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hxVME_uSZzk&feature=related Edited 18 November, 2008 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 I'm pretty sure the "Hope you die soon" On the March cover wasn't just a sick statement putting into words Saints fans' displeasure at Branfoots terrible management, but was in fact a brilliant catch phrase of the time that featured in the very dark humoured `Poppet on a string' sketch from a Harry Enfield TV show. Quality sketch, brilliant use of the catchphrase, but no real malice intended IMO. I could be wrong though... Yeh, it was apparently meant as a dig at his arrogant attitude. There was his speech bubble response of "Bet I Don't" which was conveninetly airbrushed out when the fanzine was shown on MOTD. So though it was pretty poor taste, it was not meant in the way it was taken (but don't think it was ever going to be taken any other way!!) And agree with delldays, Branfoot was actually a top bloke. he just had us playing awful football that head us hurtling towards relegation about 11 years ahead of schedule. From the stuff I have heard from someone who works at Winchester College, he & Lew Chatterley have long talks on all that has gone wrong at the club in the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Yeh, it was apparently meant as a dig at his arrogant attitude. There was his speech bubble response of "Bet I Don't" which was conveninetly airbrushed out when the fanzine was shown on MOTD. So though it was pretty poor taste, it was not meant in the way it was taken (but don't think it was ever going to be taken any other way!!) And agree with delldays, Branfoot was actually a top bloke. he just had us playing awful football that head us hurtling towards relegation about 11 years ahead of schedule. From the stuff I have heard from someone who works at Winchester College, he & Lew Chatterley have long talks on all that has gone wrong at the club in the last few years. Is my memory playing tricks on me, but didn't another fanzine at the time (or it might have been On The March again) have a smartie sellotaped to every front cover as some of sort of suicide pill to take if you though the football was bad. Sort of twisted, but IMHO that sort of twisted balck terrace humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 UI and On the March were quality. Red Stripe was pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimbo Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 It was On the March, issue no 18, and under the title " hope you die soon " was a picture of him, with the words " bet I dont" shown against is mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 It all seems so familiar, Like a reoccurring dream,perhaps a nightmare would be more apt.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hxVME_uSZzk&feature=relatedhistory repeats itself, and repeats, and repeats ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Is my memory playing tricks on me, but didn't another fanzine at the time (or it might have been On The March again) have a smartie sellotaped to every front cover as some of sort of suicide pill to take if you though the football was bad. that was the red stripe. my uncle did that cover, i still have it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Did anyone actually understand the "Hope you die soon" reference? I did, just wondered if others did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Did anyone actually understand the "Hope you die soon" reference? I did, just wondered if others did? I thought they claimed they took it from a Bob Dylan song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Did anyone actually understand the "Hope you die soon" reference? I did, just wondered if others did? I thought it was from a Harry Enfield sketch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Does anybody remember the kidnapp plot that the police thought they uncovered....never really understood what happened with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Remember all this was all during our glory days when we were a fantastic family club, regularly challenging at the top of the division before Lowe came along four years later and took us into "terminal decline" from the very second he walked in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Remember all this was all during our glory days when we were a fantastic family club, regularly challenging at the top of the division before Lowe came along four years later and took us into "terminal decline" from the very second he walked in the door. Indeed. I beleive Branfoot was ousted by fan power after he failed to retain the European Cup when Barcelona did us on penalties in the final. Ah for the halycion pre-Lowe days. Say what you want about Branfoot but I think the the 3 League titles, 2 FA Cups and a European Cup that he won us will be a record that will take some time to beat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 It is 'on the march' and I still have my copy if anyone wants to make me an offer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I thought they claimed they took it from a Bob Dylan song. Dylan's classic 'Masters of War' contains the line: "Well I hope that you die, and your death will come soon..." No idea if this was where they got the idea for the Branfoot cover though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I thought it was from a Harry Enfield sketch.... That's how I understood it. It was from the Poppet on a swing sketch. If you'd seen the sketch you'd understand that all the fuss at the time was way over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 The one moment that always stands out for me during the Branfoot era was one game away to Arsenal at Highbury. Paul Moody clean through & tried to lob their keeper (Seaman?) & nearly put the ball in the exec boxes high up behind the goal...meanwhile MLT was sat watching on the bench. :smt076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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