fez Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Very good article- written by someone who clearly knows his stuff! He knows his football but not his weather. It's going to be a lovely warm dry evening - certainly not the archetypal wet Tuesday night in Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Going to the match tonight with my eldest lad, just spoke to Barnsley's ticket office and we've only sold 700 of 7k tickets available, £12 for me and £6 for the boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Play the reserves. If that's not enough we don't have good enough strength in depth. What, against a Championship side ? Not like we're playing a semi pro team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 What, against a Championship side ? Not like we're playing a semi pro team. Bottom of championship but take your point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 (edited) What, against a Championship side ? Not like we're playing a semi pro team. Our "reserves"... Do Prado, Cork, K.Davis, S.Davis, Yoshida, Fox, Mayuka, Hooiveld etc should all be good enough to beat Barnsley. They were all important parts of the Championship promotion winning team and/or internationals. Edited 27 August, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Bottom of championship but take your point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free do we in fact have any reserves ? We have the first team squad, a handful of dissaffected players and the U21s who played yesterday. We'll have to go with quite a few first teamers if we want to be sure of avoiding an ignominious defeat, say 4 or 5 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 This has banana skin written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 do we in fact have any reserves ? We have the first team squad, a handful of dissaffected players and the U21s who played yesterday. We'll have to go with quite a few first teamers if we want to be sure of avoiding an ignominious defeat, say 4 or 5 at least. Do Prado, Cork, K.Davis, S.Davis, Yoshida, Fox, Mayuka, Hooiveld Theres 7 players that don't start for the first team. Plus you could give Ramirez and Clyne some gametime as they haven't started a match yet. All of them are more than capable to beat a poor Championship side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Do Prado, Cork, K.Davis, S.Davis, Yoshida, Fox, Mayuka, Hooiveld Theres 7 players that don't start for the first team. Plus you could give Ramirez and Clyne some gametime as they haven't started a match yet. All of them are more than capable to beat a poor Championship side. ah but for me those are first team players, it's a squad game as I keep getting told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Davis Clyne Hooiveld Yoshida Fox (Just to put him in the shop window) Davis Cork Guly Ward- Prowse Ramirez Mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 (edited) ah but for me those are first team players, it's a squad game as I keep getting told. Depends on your definition of "reserve" then. There isn't a reserve league any more and those 7 players I listed are not first choice. If it were a Championship match against one of the weakest teams in the league and Saints put out a line-up of... K.Davis Clyne Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork S. Davis Ramirez Do Prado Isgrove Mayuka Would you be confident? I would. A line-up like that should be able to win and leaves our key players fresh for Saturday. Edited 27 August, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Depends on your definition of "reserve then". There isn't a reserve league any more and those players are not first choice. If it were a Championship match against one of the weakest teams in the league and Saints put out a line-up of... K.Davis Clyne Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork S. Davis Ramirez Do Prado Isgrove Mayuka Would you be confident? I would. A line-up like that should be able to win and leaves our key players fresh for Saturday. Swap Mayuka for Osvaldo, I think he may play but either way it should be beating a poor NPC side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Swap Mayuka for Osvaldo What would Pochettino gain from playing Osvaldo if he is already match fit? If he isn't playing with other first team players (Lambert, Lallana, Wanyama etc) it isn't helping him to gel with them by playing him with the back up players (Do Prado, Cork, Davis etc). It'll just mean he'll miss training sessions with those playing on Saturday. (he'll probably start tonight now I've said that ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I would not under estimate Barnsley and would play a near full strengh side. #Winningmentality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I would probably start Gazzaniga over Kelvin for this one. He needs to start getting games again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Depends on your definition of "reserve then". There isn't a reserve league any more and those 7 players I listed are not first choice. If it were a Championship match against one of the weakest teams in the league and Saints put out a line-up of... K.Davis Clyne Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork S. Davis Ramirez Do Prado Isgrove Mayuka Would you be confident? I would. A line-up like that should be able to win and leaves our key players fresh for Saturday. Any one of those players may be needed to replace an injured current starter at any time in the next 2/3 weeks. It would be stupid NOT to give them the chance of game time and most of them played pretty much together as a team in pre-season. It's a big difference from last year or the year before when our "non-starters included the likes of SDR, Chappers, and the like. Pack the bench with star names just in case. Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Our "reserves"... Do Prado, Cork, K.Davis, S.Davis, Yoshida, Fox, Mayuka, Hooiveld etc should all be good enough to beat Barnsley. They were all important parts of the Championship promotion winning team and/or internationals. I wouldn't class those players as reserves, they are part of the first team and warm the bench for us. Reserves to me are our players that won't be getting a look in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I wouldn't class those players as reserves, they are part of the first team and warm the bench for us. Reserves to me are our players that won't be getting a look in the first team. which is exactly how I see a reserve, traditionalism really i suppose, when you read in the Echo that Sid Bloggs was going to be promoted from the reserves to the first team as a replacement for Joe Super who'd scored 90 already this season your heart sank and you did not look forward to Sat afty as much as usual. We had quite a few of those at Saints, scored shedloads in the reserves but were totally useless in the first team, what was the name of that fellamelad Les something or other. Harwood perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I would not under estimate Barnsley and would play a near full strengh side. #Winningmentality This, leave any possible injury concerns out and get the job done in the 1st half, 2-3 goals up then make the subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I wouldn't class those players as reserves, they are part of the first team and warm the bench for us. Reserves to me are our players that won't be getting a look in the first team. You are making up your own definition for "reserves" then, as there is no reserve league anymore. As football now allows for 7 subs, those that would have played reserve team football in the past are now on the subs bench for the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 You are making up your own definition for "reserves" then, as there is no reserve league anymore. As football now allows for 7 subs, those that would have played reserve team football in the past are now on the subs bench for the first team. I guess I would have to call reserves the under 21s then as no more reserve leagues, we must have so many in our squad that must be fed up with not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Still think we'll start Gaston and Ossie, need to get them clicking before Saturday, otherwise we probably won't score against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Leave any possible injury concerns out and get the job done in the 1st half, 2-3 goals up then make the subs. What is it about a team like this that makes you think they couldn't beat one of the weakest Championship sides? K.Davis Clyne Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork S. Davis Ramirez Do Prado Isgrove Mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 On football manager when it asks if I want to enter the reserve league, what does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 For me... Gazza / Bozza Clyne fonte / Jos Yoshida / Lovren Fox (give him a run out) Wanyama davis / Morgan Lallana Jay rod Gaston / SRL Ossie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 What is it about a team like this that makes you think they couldn't beat one of the weakest Championship sides? Not saying they couldn't but just look at Cardiff beating Man City, anything can happen, here goes anyways. K.Davis - great in the past for us, near post Nottage Clyne - no probs Yoshida - not fully fit, maybe rusty ? Hooiveld - Not played much, rusty ? Fox - probably about him level so ok. Cork - no probs S. Davis - no probs Ramirez - not that great away so as he's only bit of flair / quality in the side wouldn't want to rely on him Do Prado - No probs Isgrove - not seen enough of him but not played either of the 1st 2 games so obviously not that highly thought of Mayuka - no probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I would not under estimate Barnsley and would play a near full strengh side. #Winningmentality With you all the way!! Southampton Saints@SaintsRumoursLast season Swansea faced Barnsley in the 2nd round of the Capital One Cup, they won 3-1 and went on to win the cup, Omen? #saintsfc Let our March on Europe commence!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I'd sooner win this game than Norwich. I want cup run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 What would Pochettino gain from playing Osvaldo if he is already match fit? If he isn't playing with other first team players (Lambert, Lallana, Wanyama etc) it isn't helping him to gel with them by playing him with the back up players (Do Prado, Cork, Davis etc). It'll just mean he'll miss training sessions with those playing on Saturday. (he'll probably start tonight now I've said that ) I can actually see your logic in this FWIW. I think out of my own greed I want to see more of him and get him off the mark, it really woukdnt surprise me if this game figures more of a mix of 1st and reserve players. For instance, I reckon we will see Osvaldo, Ramirez, Cork, Lovren, Clyne and possibly J Rod playing in this. I have a suspicion that the cups will be important to Poch this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I can actually see your logic in this FWIW. I think out of my own greed I want to see more of him and get him off the mark, it really woukdnt surprise me if this game figures more of a mix of 1st and reserve players. For instance, I reckon we will see Osvaldo, Ramirez, Cork, Lovren, Clyne and possibly J Rod playing in this. I have a suspicion that the cups will be important to Poch this year. Would be very surprised if we risk an injury to Osvaldo by playing him tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Would be very surprised if we risk an injury to Osvaldo by playing him tonight You can say that about any player at any time including training, if he is fit he will play tonight IMO As for Isgrove, he is highly thought of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I can actually see your logic in this FWIW. I think out of my own greed I want to see more of him and get him off the mark, it really woukdnt surprise me if this game figures more of a mix of 1st and reserve players. For instance, I reckon we will see Osvaldo, Ramirez, Cork, Lovren, Clyne and possibly J Rod playing in this. I have a suspicion that the cups will be important to Poch this year. Would be very surprised if we risk an injury to Osvaldo by playing him tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Play the reserves. If that's not enough we don't have good enough strength in depth. This. If we have to dip into our first choice 11 to beat Barnsley, it's a sad day for us. A chance for our 2nd string to prove themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 This. If we have to dip into our first choice 11 to beat Barnsley, it's a sad day for us. A chance for our 2nd string to prove themselves. what like last year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 what like last year ? The Southampton squad has more depth to it this season and Leeds are better than Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezz Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Sorted then. We just have to turn up with any old team and we're through. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 It seems an unnecessary inconvenience to go through the quaint olde world formality of actually playing the game. Pretty arrogant of Barnsley to drag us halfway across the country, when they could just do the decent thing and withdraw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 The Southampton squad has more depth to it this season and Leeds are better than Barnsley. We were **** at Leeds last year, men against rent boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 The Southampton squad has more depth to it this season and Leeds are better than Barnsley. As per usual Im going to point out this is real life and not a sim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffaSaint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 What is it about a team like this that makes you think they couldn't beat one of the weakest Championship sides? Not saying they couldn't but just look at Cardiff beating Man City, anything can happen, here goes anyways. K.Davis - great in the past for us, near post Nottage Clyne - no probs Yoshida - not fully fit, maybe rusty ? Hooiveld - Not played much, rusty ? Fox - probably about him level so ok. Cork - no probs S. Davis - no probs Ramirez - not that great away so as he's only bit of flair / quality in the side wouldn't want to rely on him Do Prado - No probs Isgrove - not seen enough of him but not played either of the 1st 2 games so obviously not that highly thought of Mayuka - no probs I think this team should play, rather have a junior team scrape a win than risk the big boys for an easier victory, if we lose its the league cup; more important games to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 what like last year ? The Southampton squad has more depth to it this season and Leeds are better than Barnsley. As per usual Im going to point out this is real life and not a sim So Barnsley are better than Leeds and the Southampton squad is now weaker than last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Rent boys hate that, sooner or later someone has to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 So Barnsley are better than Leeds and the Southampton squad is now weaker than last season? You are only as good as your last game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20919178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 We were **** at Leeds last year, men against rent boys. I know, I went atrocious, reminded me of the capitulation against Fulham in the LC when they were in the 3rd division and we were in the PL or Rotherham where Bart put on one of the worst displays ever seen by a Saints keeper, Forecast included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 You are only as good as your last game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20919178 This was Barnsley's last game... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23736833 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 So Barnsley are better than Leeds and the Southampton squad is now weaker than last season? I investigated this and the back four we had at leeds made me lols 05 Hooiveld 25 Seaborne 29 Reeves 32 Butterfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Exactly. Using Clyne, Hooiveld, Yoshida, Fox tonight is better than that. As is having Cork and Davis in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Out of curiosity how do the team usually travel to most games? I would say anything in or below the Midlands we use the bus/train, but travel by plane to anything north of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 This is the reserves. It will be by minibus with Guly driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 This was Barnsley's last game... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23736833 With Leeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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