Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Who says 4 day cricket is boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Can someone remind me what happens if we finish with the same amount of points as Essex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Essex will have one more win so go up. We have to be a point ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Ok, cheers Weston, so a draw and maximum bonus points for Hants will see us over the line, so long as Essex score less than 350 in 110 overs ... I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Vince gone for 144 - 278/6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Wood's first 3 scoring shots 4 4 6. Hants 300/6 Ervine 103 n/o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Drat - Ervine out, 310/7. Was hoping for 350 and another batting point, Wood should continue playing his shots. Essex likely to win although scoring slowly. Still, let's see what Glamorgan do on the surface tomorrow. Forecast looks decent for all 4 days at present so anything north of 350 gives the bowlers plenty to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Ok, cheers Weston, so a draw and maximum bonus points for Hants will see us over the line, so long as Essex score less than 350 in 110 overs ... I think? Correct. Or get a draw with 12 points and Essex score less than 300 in 110 overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 (edited) With Hants now 313/8 and Essex 191/3 I'm suspecting we're gonna have to win this match; however, tomorrow morning will be interesting! Coles has been very poor with the bat recently Edited 23 September, 2014 by Halo Stickman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Hoping we can get another batting point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 And we have! Every little helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Batting point earnt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Yes!! The fourth batting point - that could be crucial. Well done Tahir and Tommo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Hoping we can get another batting point... Just got it! Can't ask for much more fr 53 for 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Tahir fancying the 5th batting point it seems ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 All out 357. Take that. Does mean that we are going to have to win though unless Essex get bowled for under 300. Unlikely given that they are 198/3 with 41 overs left to get 102 runs. Worcs have been an absolute joke today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Just got it! Can't ask for much more fr 53 for 5 Yep, 357 all out, that’s a fantastic recovery – edge of the seat stuff all day. Well played Vince and Ervine. Tomorrow morning could be key imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 All out 357. Take that. Does mean that we are going to have to win though unless Essex get bowled for under 300. Unlikely given that they are 198/3 with 41 overs left to get 102 runs. Worcs have been an absolute joke today. They seem determined to bring Essex (with their rice-pudding bowling) up with them. Assuming Essex get 300 or more it looks like one of 2 possibilities: Hants win and finish first, or draw/lose and finish third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 A great recovery today - congratulations to Vince and Ervine. However, we have a long way to go to win this game - hope the weather holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 (edited) A great recovery today - congratulations to Vince and Ervine. However, we have a long way to go to win this game - hope the weather holds. Frankly I"d hope the weather doesn't hold but it's the same in Chelmsford as it is in Cardiff anyway (or better in Cardiff than Chelmsford). Can't see Worcester making an effort not to suffer a resounding defeat and I've no real confidence in our bowling..may I be wrong in that this time though. We're in the box seat if both games are substantially affected by bad weather, if not I'd say Essex are more likely to come out on top in this round. Edit: Still Hants have already taken a wicket this morning and there's a bit of a rain delay at Chelmsford...good start to the day then. Edited 24 September, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Great start! 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Great start! 2-1 But now their 2nd wicket pair seem to be getting a hold on the game, still at 42/1 it's not the end of the world yet but what we don't need is another Kent ferk up, 29/2 and then they made over 500. Essex have lost a couple of wickets in the last few minutes but as they're 140 or so ahead already it probably just doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 But now their 2nd wicket pair seem to be getting a hold on the game, still at 42/1 it's not the end of the world yet but what we don't need is another Kent ferk up, 29/2 and then they made over 500. Essex have lost a couple of wickets in the last few minutes but as they're 140 or so ahead already it probably just doesn't matter. If Worcestershire can bowl Essex out for less than 300, that means Essex miss out on three batting points, which could be crucial. They'd only be able to get 21 points in the game with a win, meaning we need 12 to go up. We've already got 4 from yesterday, get 9 wickets in 110 overs in this innings and draw the game and it's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 (edited) If Worcestershire can bowl Essex out for less than 300, that means Essex miss out on three batting points, which could be crucial. They'd only be able to get 21 points in the game with a win, meaning we need 12 to go up. We've already got 4 from yesterday, get 9 wickets in 110 overs in this innings and draw the game and it's done Hopefully that will happen then, anyway we've got the yapi out so that's a very positive thing for Hants. However at the end of the day if Essex do get to 300 we could in theory miss out on promotion because of the meagre 1 bowling point we obtained against Kent after havng them at 29/2 or something. Still with glam now at 50/3 it might not come down to that. Edited 24 September, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Glam 56/3. 2 wickets in an over from Wood – just what we needed! Come on Haaaaampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Okay, with Essex now having accumulated at least 3 batting points, and looking odds on to beat Worcs, only a Hants win against Glamorgan will see us promoted. Chance for a few of our lads to write themselves into Hampshire folk-lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Yep, Essex crept over the line in the end for 300, looked at one point like they might fall short. It was interesting to hear on SSN last night that the pitch inspectors were called in after Worcestershire's innings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Okay, with Essex now having accumulated at least 3 batting points, and looking odds on to beat Worcs, only a Hants win against Glamorgan will see us promoted. Chance for a few of our lads to write themselves into Hampshire folk-lore. Think we need to make sure that we can make them follow on, means getting their last 4 for less than 70 now, surely that can't be that difficult really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Think we need to make sure that we can make them follow on, means getting their last 4 for less than 70 now, surely that can't be that difficult really. 156/8 now, should be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Think we need to make sure that we can make them follow on, means getting their last 4 for less than 70 now, surely that can't be that difficult really. 169/9 now. If we do take this last wicket for less than 38, enforcing the follow on would definitely be the right thing to do imo, or is there any argument for batting again and then bowling fourth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 169/9 now. If we do take this last wicket for less than 38, enforcing the follow on would definitely be the right thing to do imo, or is there any argument for batting again and then bowling fourth? 172 all out at tea. Adams doesn't usually like enforcing the follow on. But maybe he will this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 172 all out at tea. Adams doesn't usually like enforcing the follow on. But maybe he will this time? Madness not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Shows what I know - not enforced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Shows what I know - not enforced Totally nuts. We may well still win this, possibly by a good margin, but why we make it harder for ourselves I will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 What is wrong with Hants? Suspect weather day 4 and not like they had bowled a huge number of overs. If this costs them promotion serious questions will need to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 September, 2014 This is only day two. You do not put the opposition back in when the lead is not at least 250 - 300. The Glamorgan Wicket deteriorates and you do not want to be batting last. Plenty of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 This is only day two. You do not put the opposition back in when the lead is not at least 250 - 300. The Glamorgan Wicket deteriorates and you do not want to be batting last. Plenty of time. What you say makes good sense Weston, but I think the possibility of adverse weather playing some role on the fourth day is making a few of us nervous. I see the Weather Channel is flagging the chance of rain in Cardiff on Friday at 20 per cent, so I assume Hants are banking on the 80 per cent chance that it won’t rain. Fair odds I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 175 for 3 at the close, lead of 360. Score rapidly in the morning and declare with lead of 450/500 I reckon. I agreed with the decision to bat again, the follow-on can sometimes give a side an opportunity to get back into the game and if Glamorgan had batted well and got a lead of 150/200 it could have been a tricky chase. Glamorgan have included two spinners so they're obviously expecting it to turn a bit later in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 We deserve to win this and go up but life is not like that! I just hope that Adams made the right call - rain is forecast for Friday I understand. Hopefully we will declare about 450 ahead at 11.45 am and then bowl them out tomorrow afternoon. That is my plan anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Wood said that Hampshire had were in two minds about whether to enforce the follow-on after bowling Glamorgan out for 172, leaving them 185 runs behind. “With two and a half days remaining and the pitch only going to get worse, we decided to bat again,” he explained. “There wasn’t much discussion. “We looked at the weather forecast and what rain there could be on Friday appears minimal, so we thought it was best to grind them down. “We didn’t want to be left chasing 100 or 150 on the final day on a wearing surface, so we decided to bat on.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 On reflection, I’m just about persuaded that Hants were right not to enforce the follow-on, although I do wonder whether the likes of Ingleby-Mackenzie, Nicholas and Warne would have adopted the same approach. Still, captaincy, strategies, game-plans, opinions – these are just some of the things that make cricket so absorbing. Frustratingly, I’m travelling for much of the day, so will struggle to keep up with events. Five hundred lead by lunch, skittle Glamorgan out by close of play, celebrate in the sunshine, or the rain, tomorrow – that would be my strategy from here on in, FWIW. Let's do it Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 On reflection, I’m just about persuaded that Hants were right not to enforce the follow-on, although I do wonder whether the likes of Ingleby-Mackenzie, Nicholas and Warne would have adopted the same approach. Still, captaincy, strategies, game-plans, opinions – these are just some of the things that make cricket so absorbing. Frustratingly, I’m travelling for much of the day, so will struggle to keep up with events. Five hundred lead by lunch, skittle Glamorgan out by close of play, celebrate in the sunshine, or the rain, tomorrow – that would be my strategy from here on in, FWIW. Let's do it Hampshire. Was definitely the right decision. If we'd put them back in there was every chance they'd fair much better, on what was only a 2nd day pitch and then leave us with a tricky chase on day 3/4 on a raging turner. Had the potential to be disastrous. With a long time left to still bowl them out, it was a bit of a no brainer for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Five hundred lead by lunch, skittle Glamorgan out by close of play, celebrate in the sunshine, or the rain, tomorrow – that would be my strategy from here on in, FWIW. Given the potential for rain, however much Wood plays it down, I'm sure the thought will be there to get them back in as soon as possible. 500 by lunch seems feasible, as long as we don't lose any cheap wickets early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 (edited) Not sure we really need 500, though of course that would be the safest bet. With the pitch changing / Tahir to come good / their poor first innings performance, all combined with the risk of rain tomorrow, I would settle for 450 Edited 25 September, 2014 by Bucks Saint still drunk from tues night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Or maybe it's just a case of saying to the batsmen: "You have one session... do your worst." ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 On reflection, I’m just about persuaded that Hants were right not to enforce the follow-on, although I do wonder whether the likes of Ingleby-Mackenzie, Nicholas and Warne would have adopted the same approach. Still, captaincy, strategies, game-plans, opinions – these are just some of the things that make cricket so absorbing. Warne would certainly of batted. It was the Aussies of his era that started the practise of not following-on. As for the others, they played in 3 day matches, so there wasn't the time left, so sticking the oppo back in was their only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Alsop did last long again. Vince moving along though. 210/4, lead of 395 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Wheater gone now, a lead of 407 with 5 wickets remaining. I think I will settle for your previously mentioned 450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 And now Vince gone too. Lets hope its a sign of the deteriorating pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 And now Vince gone too. Lets hope its a sign of the deteriorating pitch Indeed. Wood and Ervine gone now too... we've tried a bit of Twenty20 batting I think. Should get 450 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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