St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Yes, Terry Paine walked it by a country mile. So to fend off any embarrassing or painful faux pas, I now want your nominations for the RM who'll fill the spot in the B team. In effect, the second best RM Saints ever had. But be careful who you nominate, because if that player goes on to be voted for, and wins, he cannot be in the A team at any position, nor the subs bench. You have been warned, and there are really plenty to choose from, so we don't need to do silly things here. Now please nominate for the 2nd best RM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 The second best RMs that we have ever had are Channon and MLT but they are both too good for the B team so I would nominate Danny Wallace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Danny looks a good call here. Not good enough for a best ever Saints team, but a true Saint, and a fine player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Although not really a RM Ronnie Ekelund In his very short time at saints really pushed MLT for MOM every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Thank you peeps, that's the idea. More nominations to vote for, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 As it happens, I'm going to nominate one of my favourite players of all time - Alan Ball, who started out as a right winger, and stayed right sided, although he roamed all over the park, at times. He's good enough to be in the A Team, but I don't think he'll get in there. If we'd never had Terry Paine, I'd have wanted Bally as my best ever RM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Good call that. Ball for the B-team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Good call that. Ball for the B-team! Of course you do realise that our RB Alf Ramsey disagreed with me, but this time with the England team. He had Terry Paine in at RM, and changed his mind and put Bally in there instead. That sort of ended Painer's England career. Oh btw, nominations end tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I don't think Bally ever played right midfield for Saints, so don't think you should consider him there. Before choosing any of the front 6, I think you should have a poll to determine what position Matt's going to be played in, as you could make a case for either wing, striker or (possibly) centre midfield. Once that's decided, it would then be easier to organise the rest of the team without excluding any 'greats'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Eric Day, Only 5' 6" 10st 7lbs 422 appearances 158 goals one of the best for 10 1/2 years. Aged 25 before his first league game because of the war. Averaged 40 games a season. He deserves to be picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I don't think Bally ever played right midfield for Saints, so don't think you should consider him there. Before choosing any of the front 6, I think you should have a poll to determine what position Matt's going to be played in, as you could make a case for either wing, striker or (possibly) centre midfield. Once that's decided, it would then be easier to organise the rest of the team without excluding any 'greats'. I think you'll find he did. Besides, it doesn't matter too much. Bally was a known high quality RM, and for that reason alone, he can be picked to appear there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I find this incredible. First MLT misses put on the RM slot and now it looks like he's going to be overlooked for the B team too. With "fans" with such poor memories of a true legend, we deserve just the results we're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I find this incredible. First MLT misses put on the RM slot and now it looks like he's going to be overlooked for the B team too. With "fans" with such poor memories of a true legend, we deserve just the results we're getting. If he is nominated for the B team he can't be in the A team, that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I find this incredible. First MLT misses put on the RM slot and now it looks like he's going to be overlooked for the B team too. With "fans" with such poor memories of a true legend, we deserve just the results we're getting. As Derry clearly understands, and you are misunderstanding. We KNOW MLT is good enough to get into the A team, but he would have been in the B team or nowhere if it had gone to a vote. As it happens, he would have made the last 6, and probably would have been in the B Team at RM. Would you have wanted that..? Thought not. Don't worry, I'm not such an idiot that he won't appear somewhere in the line-up. For my money RCM, alongside Jimmy Case or Steve Williams at LCM. Happier now..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Nathan Dyer anyone? I'll get my coat :-) Alan Ball seems a good shout for the second nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Personally I'd have had MLT in the A team, but seeing as he missed out I'll plump for him to make the B team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Given that I'd have MLT in a central role, it's a tough choice. I would probably say Tessem, but only because I never saw players like Chicken George and Wallace play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Given that I'd have MLT in a central role, it's a tough choice. I would probably say Tessem, but only because I never saw players like Chicken George and Wallace play. If you had seen Eric Day you wouldn't have even mentioned Tessem and Lawrence. Danny was a good little player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Personally I'd have had MLT in the A team, but seeing as he missed out I'll plump for him to make the B team. Doh... :smt120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 im a bit lost on the MLT thing here....where is he going to go..what position..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 im a bit lost on the MLT thing here....where is he going to go..what position..? Don't worry, just not in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Don't worry, just not in this one. what..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 what..? Look, you don't understand, right..? I've explained the situation until I'm blue in the face, and I'm not going to try anymore. For what it's worth, a lot of people DO understand why MLT shouldn't be appearing in this position. So just hang fire, alright..? Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Look, you don't understand, right..? I've explained the situation until I'm blue in the face, and I'm not going to try anymore. For what it's worth, a lot of people DO understand why MLT shouldn't be appearing in this position. So just hang fire, alright..? Trust me. im still lost..will MLT be in the A team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 im still lost..will MLT be in the A team? If I can help it... YES. But this is meant to be democratic. I know everyone will want Matty in the A team somewhere, but he couldn't take Painer's place, that was obvious. And he's too good to be in the B team. So he has to go elsewhere. Like RCM or LCM for instance. Now, no more questioning. Nominations end late tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 im still lost..will MLT be in the A team? Yes - if you vote for him when he comes up for selection. Some people (norwaysaint) seem to think that he should be in the B team and then accuse us of 'having poor memories of a true legend'! It's a good job this isn't an intelligence test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 So much depends on where the others are going to go in my team. True right wingers would have to be Paine or Channon, but MLT also played wide right (especially under Nicholl). If I go for Paine, then MLT and Channon have to go up front, but that causs problems for including Keegan. Therefore Paine is my RM, Matty gets a CM free role and Channon up front with Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Therefore Paine is my RM, Matty gets a CM free role and Channon up front with Keegan Keegan also played many games in midfield for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I'm a bit concerned that MLT isn't even going to get in the B team! Ok, maybe his work rate let him down, but he more than made up for it in ability. This is mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I'm a bit concerned that MLT isn't even going to get in the B team! Ok, maybe his work rate let him down, but he more than made up for it in ability. This is mental. Either a) you are teasing or b) you haven't read anything that St Landrew has written... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 MLT for LW surely. I only mentioned Chicken George as tongue in cheek, Danny Wallace for my B team nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Did MLT not get enough England caps or something? How can you overlook his quality, not only for the 'A' team, but also the 'B' team. If our fans have such short memories, we deserve the awful results we're getting at the moment, call it karmic retribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Did MLT not get enough England caps or something? How can you overlook his quality' date=' not only for the 'A' team, but also the 'B' team. If our fans have such short memories, we deserve the awful results we're getting at the moment, call it karmic retribution.[/quote'] You are right - nobody on here thinks that MLT should be in the best ever saints team. You are the only one who thinks he was a genius. We all think that George Lawrence was a far superior player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 We all think that George Lawrence was a far superior player... What f*cking idiots you all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Are you for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 What f*cking idiots you all are. We would be if we actually thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Don't confuse him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 We would be if we actually thought that. Then why aren't you voting for MLT ffs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I think to some people he did look a lazy player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 His ability was mercurial though J9, to be fair, despite some morons getting confused on here, it's clear he should be in these polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 His ability was mercurial though J9, to be fair, despite some morons getting confused on here, it's clear he should be in these polls. On that we all agree but, unlike Buzzin Orn, the rest of us think that he should be in the A Team somewhere and not in the B Team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Then why aren't you voting for MLT ffs?! Because the current vote is for the B Team - we think that he is better than that. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I'm not falling for it this time peeps. EDIT: Don't tell me BO is actually being serious..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I'm not falling for it this time peeps. EDIT: Don't tell me BO is actually being serious..? His location is a bit of a give away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 This is quite confusing, because pre-squad numbers, the outside right/right winger/right midfielder of a 4-2-4 or 4-4-2 wore the number seven shirt. If this has gone to Terry Paine and I'm not saying he's not worthy, then where would Kevin Keegan and Matt Le Tiss fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 It isn't confusing at all because both KK and MLT can play CM or Striker (6,8,9,10) plus MLT can also play LM (11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2008 OK folks, that's it for the nominations. Thanks for your efforts and [lack of] understanding [by not reading the very words in front of you] I'm closing the nominations thread now because nobody is actually nominating anymore but talking about why MLT isn't being considered for a position in the B Team. We have 6 players to choose from, and Matty isn't one of them [executive decision for the good of all]. Those that do understand please explain to those that don't. I've had it with people who can't be bothered to read, even those that are just doing it to tease. When the Central and Left-sided midfield nominations come up we can do this all again. Now get voting for Saints SECOND BEST Right-Midfielder. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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