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Heard form a reliable source inside the club today that we will be going into admin in Jan, mainly to take the ten point deduction this year instead of starting with it in league 1 and bombing straight through to league 2.

Obviously I won't name my source, you can say al you like about HP and ketchup but this guy has worked at the club for years and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Don't know what to think really. I've always thought admin to be about the worst thing that could happen, especially if it means Lowe can then hoover up the whole club for a song, but it seems inevitable now, so perhaps its better to bite the bullet and pray we can rebuild from L1 next season.

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Heard form a reliable source inside the club today that we will be going into admin in Jan, mainly to take the ten point deduction this year instead of starting with it in league 1 and bombing straight through to league 2.

Obviously I won't name my source, you can say al you like about HP and ketchup but this guy has worked at the club for years and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Don't know what to think really. I've always thought admin to be about the worst thing that could happen, especially if it means Lowe can then hoover up the whole club for a song, but it seems inevitable now, so perhaps its better to bite the bullet and pray we can rebuild from L1 next season.

 

Whether it is Lowe or another owner, it is the only way.

 

If Lowe is sole owner, then he stands or falls by what happens next year. He cannot blame anyone else. Personally, I reckon thousands more fans wont go and the club will go bust properly this time, destroying his reputation.

 

The worst thing that could happen is if Wilde and Lowe bought it between them. Then there is still the scope for *****ing, fighting, ego and finger-pointing when it goes tits-up next year.

 

Of course, the club really needs a complete clean slate. The fan base would reunite, and attendances would definintely go up (because they will be starting from such a low base...)

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I can foresee a situation where the highest bidder for the club offers a nominal £1, but a developer offers £8m or so for the stadium as housing.

 

Its not as simple as going into admin, having all the debts magically wiped away and starting with a fresh sheet.

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I can foresee a situation where the highest bidder for the club offers a nominal £1, but a developer offers £8m or so for the stadium as housing.

 

Its not as simple as going into admin, having all the debts magically wiped away and starting with a fresh sheet.

 

Why have you posted this again ?

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And together they've been waiting for the right moment - i.e. early next year - if this thread proves to be correct!

 

So they'll buy us out of administration for a pittance, having had all the debts wiped out?

 

So we'll end up with the same lot in charge, but at the expense of all their creditors?

 

That is thoroughly immoral.

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And together they've been waiting for the right moment - i.e. early next year - if this thread proves to be correct!

 

I've the feeling that he is driven by spite. He wants all the shares to crash and burn. Wilde, Crouch to lose their large wedge of investment. The likes of the ordinary people out there (who had the temerity to rise against him) to lose any say in the matter.

 

Then for the backer to handsomely reward him, more than he has lost in share value, by a strategic placing on the board with many years income guaranteed.

 

I have no proof at all, just a gut feeling which has grown these last 3 years.

 

BTF, you posted while I was composing. You get the drift.

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I have been saying this for a long, long while.

 

I have a hunch that he has, even in this climate, a backer.

 

My thoughts have been along the same lines, when he came back he had a money man in the background but has told him to keep his powder dry till such a time as they can get the club on the cheap.

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This pathetic acceptance that Lowe will pick all of the club up in administration is ridiculous.

 

The likes of Gavin Davies could outbid Lowe with his pocket money,and with others likely to be certain to make sure that they will thwart Lowe,he has no chance.

 

It could be that this certainty of being outbid in administration is the reason for Lowe coming back,as he knows administration will mean he loses the lot.

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History tells us quite clearly, what lengths that, The Lowey, Cowan, Askham Richards Mob will go to. It has always been about money in their pockets.

This little group have no love for Saints and have never put their hand in their own pockets...The shares they got for nothing and Lowey only has a handful.

On second thoughts he might be very astute, then again, so ARE many that brought the financial world down.

 

iT HAS ALWAYS CONCERNED ME THAT SUCH A HATED FIGURE SHOULD COME BACK TO THE CLUB.

iT WAS NEVER TO SAVE THE CLUB BUT imho TO OWN THE CLUB OUTRIGHT. sod THE FANS.

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If such a scenario came to pass, I for one will never pay one single penny into the club again if Lowe tries to resurrect the club from administration.

 

It would be up to people of like mind to convince the administrators that there would be sufficient opposition to Lowe that allowing him to continue would not be a viable option.

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This pathetic acceptance that Lowe will pick all of the club up in administration is ridiculous.

 

The likes of Gavin Davies could outbid Lowe with his pocket money,and with others likely to be certain to make sure that they will thwart Lowe,he has no chance.

 

It could be that this certainty of being outbid in administration is the reason for Lowe coming back,as he knows administration will mean he loses the lot.

 

Which is why I feel that he has a backer, as Toomer points out, probably keeping his powder dry ready to do the bidding.

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If such a scenario came to pass, I for one will never pay one single penny into the club again if Lowe tries to resurrect the club from administration.

 

It would be up to people of like mind to convince the administrators that there would be sufficient opposition to Lowe that allowing him to continue would not be a viable option.

 

You can be sure that the protests would be loud and long.

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did you enjoy the youth club in the Chapel today, Pete.

shamed to say i left after they scored their second

 

Must admit I had a pop at a family sat by us when the father made a comment along the lines of, this is the first time you have seen passes like that we have been watching it all season. I left just after the 2nd goal and was at Regents Park lights by full time.

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Must admit I had a pop at a family sat by us when the father made a comment along the lines of, this is the first time you have seen passes like that we have been watching it all season. I left just after the 2nd goal and was at Regents Park lights by full time.

 

i was back at Tesco roundabout at full time, strange thing was i had the commentary on solent on car radio and STILL hoped we would come back.

supporting this club has finally tipped me over the edge mentally

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Heard form a reliable source inside the club today that we will be going into admin in Jan, mainly to take the ten point deduction this year instead of starting with it in league 1 and bombing straight through to league 2.

 

IF this is true, it wouldn't make ANY difference in our league ranking. Either way we will be relegated this season AND next!

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If such a scenario came to pass, I for one will never pay one single penny into the club again if Lowe tries to resurrect the club from administration.

 

It would be up to people of like mind to convince the administrators that there would be sufficient opposition to Lowe that allowing him to continue would not be a viable option.

 

I would be 2nd behind you in the queue, and looking over my shoulder I reckon there would be plenty more in line.

 

My football club would cease to exist if this happened and I would be only too happy to support an AFC Southampton as an alternative.

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Nothing changes - the usual drama queen's banging their drums until their match day silence at SMS. Gentlemen one very poor performance and here you are latching all your hopes on to it as a way of undermining the club and those trying to saving it. AFC Southampton - that's a scenario that will really have the punters flocking to Stoneham Lane, is it?

 

It was a shocking game but I think a large part of the blame for that performance was the shocking and inept displays from the likes of James, Lallana, McGoldrick and surprise surprise Mr 12kpw Skacel himself. If you want to sharpen your swords then can I respectfully suggest you aim them towards Skacel and McGoldrick for starters, as for most of the game we were playing with 9 men and a couple of disinterested, talentless and clueless players that have ever graced SMS and that really is saying something.

 

Surman's casual approach cost us their 2nd goal and his desire for 90% of the time to play it sideways or behind him he makes Ray Wilkins look penetrative with about 1% of his footballing brain. £3m for Surman and Lallana, yes please where do we sign?

 

Every team has a bad day, Bristol Rovers and Hull last season. Lets hope Jan realises that a few of the players need an enforced Christmas holiday and the attitude displayed by some of them today, Skacel in particular, perhaps that is the eventuality he actually played for. At least 5 of our players badly let us down today and hopefully the management recognise that fact and deal with it accordingly.

 

Only 1pt above relegation with half the season to play for it is better than being in the bottom 3 after 45 games and needing a win and some favours for survival.

 

Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

Happy Christmas everyone I'm off on my hols.

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AFC Southampton - that's a scenario that will really have the punters flocking to Stoneham Lane, is it?

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You see this is where your lack of understanding starts to shine rather too brightly.

It's not about having the punters flocking down Stoneham Lane, it's about having a club which you can identify with.

I grew up in Southampton but I don't even live in Britain at the moment. But I'd be right behind an AFC Southampton plan. Something to feel proud of, IMO -- and if you don't share that view you can go and watch Trojans play hockey instead.

Happy Christmas.

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Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

Like I said in my original post, I have no reason to disbelieve this person, people are free to take the information as they see fit. If you wish to carry on seeing the world through your rose tinted glasses then carry on. And when have I ever been 'antagonistic'?:rolleyes:

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You see this is where your lack of understanding starts to shine rather too brightly.

It's not about having the punters flocking down Stoneham Lane, it's about having a club which you can identify with.

I grew up in Southampton but I don't even live in Britain at the moment. But I'd be right behind an AFC Southampton plan. Something to feel proud of, IMO -- and if you don't share that view you can go and watch Trojans play hockey instead.

Happy Christmas.

 

Absolutely.

 

Amazing so may dont get it. I wonder why they follow SFC at all and not ManYoo.

 

IF SFC dies, it dies. I will be sad, but my club will be the one that rises phoenix-like from the ashes with the word "Southampton" in the name somewhere, whatever division they are in.

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Nothing changes - the usual drama queen's banging their drums until their match day silence at SMS. Gentlemen one very poor performance and here you are latching all your hopes on to it as a way of undermining the club and those trying to saving it. AFC Southampton - that's a scenario that will really have the punters flocking to Stoneham Lane, is it?

 

It was a shocking game but I think a large part of the blame for that performance was the shocking and inept displays from the likes of James, Lallana, McGoldrick and surprise surprise Mr 12kpw Skacel himself. If you want to sharpen your swords then can I respectfully suggest you aim them towards Skacel and McGoldrick for starters, as for most of the game we were playing with 9 men and a couple of disinterested, talentless and clueless players that have ever graced SMS and that really is saying something.

 

Surman's casual approach cost us their 2nd goal and his desire for 90% of the time to play it sideways or behind him he makes Ray Wilkins look penetrative with about 1% of his footballing brain. £3m for Surman and Lallana, yes please where do we sign?

 

Every team has a bad day, Bristol Rovers and Hull last season. Lets hope Jan realises that a few of the players need an enforced Christmas holiday and the attitude displayed by some of them today, Skacel in particular, perhaps that is the eventuality he actually played for. At least 5 of our players badly let us down today and hopefully the management recognise that fact and deal with it accordingly.

 

Only 1pt above relegation with half the season to play for it is better than being in the bottom 3 after 45 games and needing a win and some favours for survival.

 

Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

Happy Christmas everyone I'm off on my hols.

 

I see you can only spout your usual rubbish Sundance, your Mr Lowe is the reason that SFC are in the position they are in. It has been well documented that the **** up after **** up he made the first time around is reason we are where we are, so wake up and smell the bloody coffee for once in your life.

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Nothing changes - the usual drama queen's banging their drums until their match day silence at SMS. Gentlemen one very poor performance and here you are latching all your hopes on to it as a way of undermining the club and those trying to saving it. AFC Southampton - that's a scenario that will really have the punters flocking to Stoneham Lane, is it?

 

It was a shocking game but I think a large part of the blame for that performance was the shocking and inept displays from the likes of James, Lallana, McGoldrick and surprise surprise Mr 12kpw Skacel himself. If you want to sharpen your swords then can I respectfully suggest you aim them towards Skacel and McGoldrick for starters, as for most of the game we were playing with 9 men and a couple of disinterested, talentless and clueless players that have ever graced SMS and that really is saying something.

 

Surman's casual approach cost us their 2nd goal and his desire for 90% of the time to play it sideways or behind him he makes Ray Wilkins look penetrative with about 1% of his footballing brain. £3m for Surman and Lallana, yes please where do we sign?

 

Every team has a bad day, Bristol Rovers and Hull last season. Lets hope Jan realises that a few of the players need an enforced Christmas holiday and the attitude displayed by some of them today, Skacel in particular, perhaps that is the eventuality he actually played for. At least 5 of our players badly let us down today and hopefully the management recognise that fact and deal with it accordingly.

 

Only 1pt above relegation with half the season to play for it is better than being in the bottom 3 after 45 games and needing a win and some favours for survival.

 

Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

Happy Christmas everyone I'm off on my hols.

 

I think you'll find that it was Gasmi who gave the ball away not Surman who, along with Cork, I thought was the pick of a bad bunch !

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. . . Gentlemen one very poor performance . . . .

 

If only it was the ONE performance!

 

It was a shocking game but I think a large part of the blame for that performance was the shocking and inept displays from the likes of James, Lallana, McGoldrick and surprise surprise Mr 12kpw Skacel himself. If you want to sharpen your swords then can I respectfully suggest you aim them towards Skacel and McGoldrick for starters, as for most of the game we were playing with 9 men and a couple of disinterested, talentless and clueless players that have ever graced SMS and that really is saying something.

 

And just who is foisting these inept players on JP, by his very 'fiscal prudence'?

 

 

 

Every team has a bad day, Bristol Rovers and Hull last season. Lets hope Jan realises that a few of the players need an enforced Christmas holiday and the attitude displayed by some of them today, Skacel in particular, perhaps that is the eventuality he actually played for. At least 5 of our players badly let us down today and hopefully the management recognise that fact and deal with it accordingly.

 

So, in their enforced absence, who is JP going to replace them with?

When he got there the cupboard was bare! And it's RL shafting the club and fans with a bone of his own!

Only 1pt above relegation with half the season to play for it is better than being in the bottom 3 after 45 games and needing a win and some favours for survival.

 

Be very assured that your end of season scenario is very much a likelihood.

 

Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

A well deserved reputation I must add, you could start an argument in an empty room!

 

Happy Christmas everyone I'm off on my hols.

 

BAH! Humbug!

 

 

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Nothing changes - the usual drama queen's banging their drums until their match day silence at SMS. Gentlemen one very poor performance and here you are latching all your hopes on to it as a way of undermining the club and those trying to saving it. AFC Southampton - that's a scenario that will really have the punters flocking to Stoneham Lane, is it?

 

It was a shocking game but I think a large part of the blame for that performance was the shocking and inept displays from the likes of James, Lallana, McGoldrick and surprise surprise Mr 12kpw Skacel himself. If you want to sharpen your swords then can I respectfully suggest you aim them towards Skacel and McGoldrick for starters, as for most of the game we were playing with 9 men and a couple of disinterested, talentless and clueless players that have ever graced SMS and that really is saying something.

 

Surman's casual approach cost us their 2nd goal and his desire for 90% of the time to play it sideways or behind him he makes Ray Wilkins look penetrative with about 1% of his footballing brain. £3m for Surman and Lallana, yes please where do we sign?

 

Every team has a bad day, Bristol Rovers and Hull last season. Lets hope Jan realises that a few of the players need an enforced Christmas holiday and the attitude displayed by some of them today, Skacel in particular, perhaps that is the eventuality he actually played for. At least 5 of our players badly let us down today and hopefully the management recognise that fact and deal with it accordingly.

 

Only 1pt above relegation with half the season to play for it is better than being in the bottom 3 after 45 games and needing a win and some favours for survival.

 

Huffton, with respect but the quality of your posts would suggest your 'source' doesn't have a clue and is probably a disgruntled steward or member of the catering staff. People who really know this type of thing are unlikely to release information to someone as antagonistic as you and tbh I would have believed it more had it come from someone like Um Pahars whose views I have major issues with and can't see us sharing a beer anytime soon but at least he can support his arguments and snippets with some salient points and business knowledge inside or otherwise. Don't tell us, you were in the john at the time, Jesus (well it is Christmas) and I have a reputation as a troll.

 

Happy Christmas everyone I'm off on my hols.

 

A reasoned post, to be sure, but one which has flawed arguments and assertions every where you look. As ESB has already pointed out, if only this were one very poor performance!! This is the latest in a long line of poor performances, which has led to us winning ONE game at home all season and scoring EIGHT goals! Is there a team anywhere in the league with a worse record?? This has been partly generated by inexperienced players who are still finding their feet but also presided over by a man who is patently and clearly out of his depth. I manage people every day and if my body language were the same as JP's was yesterday I would be out of a job! He has not been able to learn from his mistakes, continues to spout drivel in his interviews and does not appear to notice the predicament we are in.

 

Nobody, least of all me, is trying to claim that we are anything but skint. However, being skint and having JP 'manage' us are not mutually dependent statements. There are plenty of teams with similar and worse squads than us who are doing far better because - guess what - the bloke on the touchline ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!

 

Anybody with SFC in their blood will now admit that this insane experiment has to STOP NOW. There is no total football - that myth died months ago - and all that remains is a bunch of kids being led by a nice Dutch bloke who really doesn't have a clue. And please, don't hang the Reading result in front of my nose as proof of our progress; put a bunch of monkeys in a room with a typewriter and sooner or later one of them will come up with a piece of Shakespearian genius.

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Nothing changes - the usual drama queen's banging their drums until their match day silence at SMS. Gentlemen one very poor performance.............................

 

Got to this point and gave up.

 

If only it was one poor performance :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Can we have a smiley for "head in the sand" please.

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Heard form a reliable source inside the club today that we will be going into admin in Jan, mainly to take the ten point deduction this year instead of starting with it in league 1 and bombing straight through to league 2.

Obviously I won't name my source, you can say al you like about HP and ketchup but this guy has worked at the club for years and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Don't know what to think really. I've always thought admin to be about the worst thing that could happen, especially if it means Lowe can then hoover up the whole club for a song, but it seems inevitable now, so perhaps its better to bite the bullet and pray we can rebuild from L1 next season.

 

Typical Saints to lose to Forest and be only 1 point above the bottom 3 rather than 7!!!!!

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Got to this point and gave up.

 

If only it was one poor performance :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Can we have a smiley for "head in the sand" please.

 

Actually he made a few good points after that - he said nice things about you too!

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I would be 2nd behind you in the queue, and looking over my shoulder I reckon there would be plenty more in line.

 

My football club would cease to exist if this happened and I would be only too happy to support an AFC Southampton as an alternative.

 

You're both already behind me in that queue, I've not yet made a financial contribution to SFC this season, and currently have no plans to.

 

Going into administration because we have to is one thing, effectively deliberately putting us into administration is downight devious, and the very thought of it sickens me.

 

I know Lowe has done many things we don't like, but surely he isn't that devoid of morals to hatch a plan like this... is he?

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I would be 2nd behind you in the queue, and looking over my shoulder I reckon there would be plenty more in line.

 

My football club would cease to exist if this happened and I would be only too happy to support an AFC Southampton as an alternative.

I prefer : Southampton 1885

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