Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Some of you apologists must be baffled by previous Islamic terror attacks prior to October 2023.

As baffled as you seem to be about the difference in targets since October 2023.

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2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Ok so who is the opposing side to the perpetrators of the attack today?

I'm not making the side/side point. All I've said is that victims aren't necessarily on any side, and today's certainly weren't. 

[whelk]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

As baffled as you seem to be about the difference in targets since October 2023.

Not baffled at all - I know why these cunts do what they do. They believe their god wants them to do it. 
Many seem to think that it is the action of Israel in Gaza.

Many of the people who side with Palestinians are absolutely vile hate-fuelled human beings

 

[whelk]

Many are not of course

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not making the side/side point. All I've said is that victims aren't necessarily on any side, and today's certainly weren't. 

Obviously I agree. The problem is that many are looking for a reason and of course they will never condone and are probably appalled. And then say ‘yeah but what about?’ ‘it doesn’t happen in a vacuum’ etc.

Islamic extremists delight in killing and have no remorse or regret whatsoever. They despise the infidels that give them society to function in

[egg]

Just now, whelk said:

Not baffled at all - I know why these cunts do what they do. They believe their god wants them to do it. 
Many seem to think that it is the action of Israel in Gaza.

Many of the people who side with Palestinians are absolutely vile hate-fuelled human beings

 

The origins of this is religion, then it became about land, and then horrendous circular attack/retaliation. It's wrong to suggest that it's all about religion, and that Israeli action in Gaza has not increased the risk of attacks against innocent Jewish people. 

[Farmer Saint]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

Not baffled at all - I know why these cunts do what they do. They believe their god wants them to do it. 
Many seem to think that it is the action of Israel in Gaza.

Many of the people who side with Palestinians are absolutely vile hate-fuelled human beings

 

I'm purely talking the profile of the victims. We all know why they do what they do, but it's more who those attacks are perpetrated on.

[aintforever]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Obviously I agree. The problem is that many are looking for a reason and of course they will never condone and are probably appalled. And then say ‘yeah but what about?’ ‘it doesn’t happen in a vacuum’ etc.

Islamic extremists delight in killing and have no remorse or regret whatsoever. They despise the infidels that give them society to function in

Do you think Israel’s actions in Gaza would have made it easier or harder to radicalise Islamic psychopaths?

[egg]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Obviously I agree. The problem is that many are looking for a reason and of course they will never condone and are probably appalled. And then say ‘yeah but what about?’ ‘it doesn’t happen in a vacuum’ etc.

Islamic extremists delight in killing and have no remorse or regret whatsoever. They despise the infidels that give them society to function in

The extension of people making points and asking questions to support their position, is that they often dampen contra points, often with criticism. Your comment that people who side with Palestinians are vile human beings is a case in point. 

The reality is that all extremists, and extreme regimes, delight in killing. That's not a "what about" comment, but rather an uncomfortable truth. 

I'm trying to avoid emotive language or rhetoric as what has happened today is bloody appalling so I'll resist expressing opinion about people who don't support the Palestinian plight. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

He didn’t give a shit about the hostages either.

Something you have in common with him. You said they were better off with Hamas. 

[iansums]

The father had a licence for 6 guns FFS, I thought Australia had strong gun laws, why would anyone need 6 guns?

[badgerx16]

If all the terrorists wanted to do was massacre a group of people in the name of their God, was it purely coincidence that they attacked a group of Jewish people ? Why not go further along Bondi and shoot a load of surfers ?

Their warped minds obviously contrived a link between what is happenening in Gaza and their desire for a quick route to Paradise.

Edited 4 hours ago by badgerx16

[Sir Ralph]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I don’t see anyone apologists for terror attacks. I do see some people who understand that either side have been killing each other for years  and I see some people who think that one side is responsible for all of the atrocities and the other side is completely at liberty to do what they want in retaliation.

This is essentially softening or seeking to justify the attacks. This is frankly unbelievable. In modern times no other religion has individuals shooting innocent civilians in cold blood. Wake up you idiot. It’s people like you who discourage real debate about this issue.

I take it back, you are an extremist yourself. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

4 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

My first visit on here today and the replies on here were oh so predictable.

Some of them are pretty disgusting 

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, egg said:

The extension of people making points and asking questions to support their position, is that they often dampen contra points, often with criticism. Your comment that people who side with Palestinians are vile human beings is a case in point. 

The reality is that all extremists, and extreme regimes, delight in killing. That's not a "what about" comment, but rather an uncomfortable truth. 

I'm trying to avoid emotive language or rhetoric as what has happened today is bloody appalling so I'll resist expressing opinion about people who don't support the Palestinian plight. 

You’ll resist expressing an opinion but are highlighting the point anyway. So if you have an issue with today’s terrorist attack but haven’t commented on Palestine then your opinion has limited weight. What a joke

Edited 3 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

 In modern times no other religion has individuals shooting innocent civilians in cold blood. 

I agree that religion rarely seems to be a motivating factor in the hundreds of civilian shootings that occur annually in the USA.

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I agree that religion rarely seems to be a motivating factor in the hundreds of civilian shootings that occur annually in the USA.

No argument from me there. The overwhelming number of terror attacks like this one are committed in the name of one religion though. Everyone knows why that is. We will have this same circular conversation when the next Islamist extremist commits an act of terror -probably in a few weeks- and you'll have the same group of people blaming it on colonialism, the West and Israel. Those same people won't ever countenance the idea that the teachings are to blame and that many fundamentalist Islamic nutters really believe the stuff they are being taught and so hate non believers and especially Jews and want to wipe them out. 

Like I said let's all meet back on this thread in a few weeks time when another group of innocents are slaughtered by an Islamist and we will have the same people denying that a section of Islamist believers are the problem. 

Edited 3 hours ago by hypochondriac