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Trump's nominee for Surgron General does not have a medical licence. She is sceptical of conventional medicine and instead promotes "wellness" products.

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Posted
2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

All of them. Get the numbers down.

Fair enough that is one avenue but illegal immigration still an issue. 

Big part of it, in my opinion is that the UK is seen as the softest / easiest place to settle. 

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2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

All of them. Get the numbers down.

Doesn't stop illegal immigrants though does it? Instead of applying for asylum they'll just disappear - tbh that's worse than what's happening now.

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Just now, badgerx16 said:

Another step on the road to the Nobel Peace Prize.

Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays 

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4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays 

Do you think the IS supporting militants are going to be cowed ?

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5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Do you think the IS supporting militants are going to be cowed ?

They will if the US goes into Nigeria and exterminates  them and if they don’t problem solved anyway. This is about putting pressure on the Nigerian government to use its military to stop this genocide, rather than standing by. US intervention will be a last resort but after Iran people know Trump will back up his statements

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On 31/10/2025 at 08:08, Farmer Saint said:

Well, we know you didn't meet them in Thailand, that's for sure.

What I find very odd is you met 7 SA's in a year, and each one you got onto them leaving for fear of their lives. I don't even know how you got to that point in conversation, considering you live in Thailand and they would most likely be there on holiday. Do you ask all holiday goers whether they were being persecuted in their own countries? Is that your schtick?

Nic seems to meet as many different people in Thailand - if it is Thailand - as Soggy meets in Romney Marsh.

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

At least Nigeria doesn't have lots of oil so you can't accuse him of trying to exploit that.

Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. 

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25 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Another step on the road to the Nobel Peace Prize.

‘America First’ and no more getting involved needlessly in overseas wars.

Ukraine - invaded by Russia, US’s historic enemy and threat to entire NATO alliance - ‘why did Biden help them?’.

Nigeria - let’s carpet bomb some Muslims thousands of miles away.

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8 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. 

What, like in Ukraine? Or is that because he's already got his rare earth's deal?

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4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What, like in Ukraine? Or is that because he's already got his rare earth's deal?

Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff

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Trump's entire foreign policy is Completely incoherent and just changes based on whatever he is thinking day to day. That means that some days he will do some fantastic things and other times he will do bad things with no real consistency.

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4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff

Ok, looking forward to him going into Sudan as well then.

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6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Trump's entire foreign policy is Completely incoherent and just changes based on whatever he is thinking day to day. That means that some days he will do some fantastic things and other times he will do bad things with no real consistency.

It's not just his foreign policy though is it? 😂

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26 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Nic seems to meet as many different people in Thailand - if it is Thailand - as Soggy meets in Romney Marsh.

I’ve never met seven South Africans man

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Isn't that largely a Muslim on muslim thing ?

Yeah, but it's genocide and Sir Ralph is so absolutely appalled by it he's virtue signalling all over the place - so I assume unless Trump goes in there he'll stop supporting him.

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6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Ok, looking forward to him going into Sudan as well then.

Just admit it’s a good thing rather than finding an excuse to criticise 

Posted
1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said:

Just admit it’s a good thing rather than finding an excuse to criticise 

I don't need an excuse to criticise Trump - it's like arguing with you - fish in a barrel.

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20 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief.

No it isn't, it's genocide based on racial theory : Russians are superior, Ukrainians are untermensch.

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23 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff

So does Nigeria, and it is shooting and bombing people - ergo, also a war.

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8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

No it isn't, it's genocide based on racial theory : Russians are superior, Ukrainians are untermensch.

Isn't it that they don't believe the Ukrainian nationality exists? It's more that he thinks people who call themselves Ukrainian are just Russian.

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12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Isn't it that they don't believe the Ukrainian nationality exists? It's more that he thinks people who call themselves Ukrainian are just Russian.

Perhaps, but attempting to eradicate a people's language, culture, and history is genocide. Kidnapping their children and brain washing them is genocide. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is genocidal.

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1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays 

Please show me where US meddling in other countries internal affairs hasn't ended in unnecessary deaths. 

Nigeria is not a US issue. Like pretty much every other country they've interfered with. 

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24 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Perhaps, but attempting to eradicate a people's language, culture, and history is genocide. Kidnapping their children and brain washing them is genocide. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is genocidal.

Ok I was just clarifying that I don't think he believes that Russians are superior to Ukrainians, he just believes that Ukrainians are Russians.

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10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Ok I was just clarifying that I don't think he believes that Russians are superior to Ukrainians, he just believes that Ukrainians are Russians.

Russian propaganda declares that Ukrainian is an inferior dialect of Russian that is spoken by rural peasants.

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1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. 

Yet again, he hasn't stopped the genocide in Ukraine, in fact his tendency and instinct has been to side with the agressor in terms of seeking a "solution".

He likes a 'strong' leader.

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Yet again, he hasn't stopped the genocide in Ukraine, in fact his tendency and instinct has been to side with the agressor in terms of seeking a "solution".

He likes a 'strong' leader.

Maybe Europe should stop the genocide in…. Europe?

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34 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Maybe Europe should stop the genocide in…. Europe?

Following that logic Africa should be stopping the "genocide" in Africa.

Just so you are clear, this has been a discussion specifically on Donald Trump's foreign interventions, and the sometimes erratic things he says and does.

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5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Following that logic Africa should be stopping the "genocide" in Africa.

Just so you are clear, this has been a discussion specifically on Donald Trump's foreign interventions, and the sometimes erratic things he says and does.

When some of the world richest nations out-source their defence to a country thousands of miles away, bit rich to complain when the outcomes are not specifically as we would want.

What are Europe doing to stop the genocide in Nigeria? What is the UK doing given our historical ties? 

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2 hours ago, egg said:

Please show me where US meddling in other countries internal affairs hasn't ended in unnecessary deaths. 

Nigeria is not a US issue. Like pretty much every other country they've interfered with. 

So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire?

Your point  is a crude on though  because if an intervention inevitably results in some deaths but stops genocide overall it’s a good thing. You are comparing this to Iraq and Afghanistan which were invaded for completely different reasons.
 

Again I’m very surprised that people think stopping genocide is a bad idea. Very weird

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It's ridiculous that peace and deal loving Donald has to spend so much of his second term, protecting core American values and allies around a world that's allowed itself to get into such a state.

He should get a third term to focus on the more business and isolationist things he would rather have been doing, had he not had to save us from ourselves. 

Sure, the nobel peace prize will be a great personal award. But it's also a reminder of all the great things he could have been involved in instead.

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23 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire?

Your point  is a crude on though  because if an intervention inevitably results in some deaths but stops genocide overall it’s a good thing. You are comparing this to Iraq and Afghanistan which were invaded for completely different reasons.
 

Again I’m very surprised that people think stopping genocide is a bad idea. Very weird

Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea?

It's ok, I'll wait.

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25 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire?

 

The US has been the main enabler of Israel's policies towards it's neighbours, the main reason that Israel has known it's occupation of the West Bank isn't going to be seriously challenged, and thereby indirectly a causative factor in the October attack.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea?

It's ok, I'll wait.

Criticism of Trump = support of genocide, apparently.

Posted
1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea?

It's ok, I'll wait.

A number of you seem to think that Trump shouldn’t be doing this. I asked you a couple of times and you dodged the question. Either Trump stopping this genocide is a good or bad thing.

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7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Criticism of Trump = support of genocide, apparently.

Ok is stopping this genocide a good or bad action by Trump?

What you said is obviously not what I’m saying. You can criticise him for some actions but if he does a good thing dont then ignore that good thing by harping on about bad things you think he has done which aren’t related.

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11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The US has been the main enabler of Israel's policies towards it's neighbours, the main reason that Israel has known it's occupation of the West Bank isn't going to be seriously challenged, and thereby indirectly a causative factor in the October attack.

I agree I didn’t say they shouldn’t get involved in facilitating a ceasefire. The US is a Christian country and he is protecting Christians in Nigeria so there is a cultural link. Not one you may consider important but one key US politicians believe is

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6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

A number of you seem to think that Trump shouldn’t be doing this. I asked you a couple of times and you dodged the question. Either Trump stopping this genocide is a good or bad thing.

Oh, stopping any genocide is a good thing. Choosing the genocides you decide to stop based on what you can exploit, is a bad thing.

Everything seems to be black and white to you...

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