Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[ChrisPY]

22 minutes ago, benjii said:

Apparently Sam Allardyce has been appointed as interim President until the end of the year.

Should help shore up the defence.

[benjii]

This is quite an interesting discussion for people who want to understand how Trump is a useful patsy for those who actually have a political agenda that extends further than "what's in it for me?".

 

Edit: it's also worth reading up on Musk's grandfather.

Edited Monday at 06:53 by benjii

[benjii]

What's funny, Nic? What aspects of Thiel and Musk's behaviour do you think contradicts this thesis? What part of Trump's political vision do you think stands in contrast?

[badgerx16]

17 minutes ago, benjii said:

What's funny, Nic? What aspects of Thiel and Musk's behaviour do you think contradicts this thesis? What part of Trump's political vision do you think stands in contrast?

Welcome to the club. The next stage is that Nic will call you "dopey" or say you are suffering from "TDS".

[sadoldgit]

57 minutes ago, benjii said:

What's funny, Nic? What aspects of Thiel and Musk's behaviour do you think contradicts this thesis? What part of Trump's political vision do you think stands in contrast?

Nic laughs at everything that he doesn’t understand, which is pretty much everything, and at posts about dead women and children. 

[sadoldgit]

An excellent read and an example of why Farage and his cronies are becoming more popular here.

"I’ve been watching an absolutely heroic amount of pearl-clutching lately from people who insist that J.D. Vance would somehow be “worse” than Trump once Trump’s inevitable political and biological expiration arrives.

Let’s get something straight: it has never been about Trump, not for one second.

Trump is just the mascot. The real story is the people who finally saw themselves in him and felt validated by what they saw.

I actually believe most of them will drift away when the cult collapses, like embarrassed fans of a one-hit wonder. Many of them will swear they were never really into him at all. The MAGA amnesia is going to be epic.

I used to wonder how it was possible that Trump could have won in 2016 and then again in 2024, given how emotionally toxic, morally vacant, and psychologically mangled he is.

I don’t wonder anymore.

I think he won for that exact reason.

He wasn’t a candidate. He was a mirror.

If you were a racist, you found your guy.
If you were a misogynist, you found your guy.
If money was your only religion, you found your guy.
If your heart was armored shut, you found your guy.
If you mocked disabled people, you found your guy.
If you hated intelligent people, you found your guy.
If you were a rapist, you found your guy.
If you enjoyed golden showers with Russian sex workers, you found your guy.
If you’d done absolutely nothing to confront your emotional wreckage, you found your guy.
If you were a serial cheater, you found your guy.
If you were a perpetual bankrupt, you found your guy.
If you stiffed honest workers, you found your guy.
If you were a conman, you found your guy.
If you mocked people’s appearances, you found your guy.
If you longed for a toxic Daddy, you found your guy.
If you were dissociated and disembodied, you found your guy.
If you were unconscionable in every economic dealing, you found your guy.
If you lied as naturally as breathing, you found your guy.
If you’d never eaten a green vegetable, you found your guy.
If you were a white supremacist, you found your guy.
If your ego contained a hole so large not even the presidency could fill it, you found your guy.
If you were a sociopath who cared not one molecule about other humans, you found your guy.

If he had only two of these traits, he never would have won. He won because he had hundreds of them, and millions of people recognized themselves in at least one.

This has never been about Trump. It has always been about the people who finally had their worst instincts validated.

Trump didn’t create the cruelty, he licensed it. He handed out permission slips for hate.

He is merely a symptom of a far deeper disease: collective toxicity.

If there is one sentence that explains Trump’s power, it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.”

That’s the part that should chill the spine.

Who knew that tens of millions of Americans were thinking such unconscionable things about their fellow citizens? Who knew how many white men felt so threatened by women and challenged by minorities that they were ready to torch democracy to feel big again? Who knew that after decades of apparent progress on race and gender, so many people were living in seething resentment, waiting for a demagogue to legitimize their worst selves and convert their bitterness into political power?

Perhaps we were living in a fool’s paradise.

We aren’t anymore."

– Michael Jochum,
Not Just a Drummer: Reflections on Art, Politics, Dogs, and the Human Condition.

[benjii]

Here's one Nic can defo laugh at.

If you take this picture:

and ask Musk's AI to remove the paedo, the prostitute and the racist, you get this:

 

[sadoldgit]

If Maduro is convicted on drugs charges, could he expect a pardon from Trump?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5671135-pelosi-trump-venezuela-maduro-charges/amp/

[badgerx16]

32 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If Maduro is convicted on drugs charges, could he expect a pardon from Trump?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5671135-pelosi-trump-venezuela-maduro-charges/amp/

Honduras has no oil.

[benjii]

I see one of the indictments against Maduro is "possession of machine guns". 

Crazy stuff.

[sadoldgit]

Especially as the very people who kidnapped him from his own country used….machine guns.

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

3 hours ago, benjii said:

Here's one Nic can defo laugh at.

If you take this picture:

and ask Musk's AI to remove the paedo, the prostitute and the racist, you get this:

 

Thought that waiter in the foreground looked dodgy.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

I see one of the indictments against Maduro is "possession of machine guns". 

Crazy stuff.

Surely it's his Second Amendment rights.

[sadoldgit]

So Donnie is lining up Columbia for more of his special treatment.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jan/04/nicolas-maduro-jailed-us-attack-venezuela-donald-trump-reaction-latest-news-updates-live

He needs to be careful. These drug cartels are not going to take kindly to him messing with their businesses.

I wonder where Donnie used to get his coke from?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-hosted-cocaine-fueled-parties-with-underage-girls/amp/

 

Edited Monday at 15:57 by sadoldgit
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[badgerx16]

Marco Rubio says the whole Maduro affair is legal because the Department of Justice says it is. The DoJ is headed by Pam Bondi,  a Trump appointed arse licker who is hardly going to point out the illegality of the act, and "Trumped up" charges.

[egg]

44 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Marco Rubio says the whole Maduro affair is legal because the Department of Justice says it is. The DoJ is headed by Pam Bondi,  a Trump appointed arse licker who is hardly going to point out the illegality of the act, and "Trumped up" charges.

On no assessment can there be jurisdiction to pick someone up in a foreign country and charge them with an offence that is not illegal in the country where they're arrested. Imagine British plod going to Amsterdam and nicking a local for possession of cannabis and dragging them over here to face the music. The concept is preposterous.

As for the narco terrorism, I'm not sure it's even a thing, but the idea that a head of state is drug running to fund terrorism (what terrorism?) is far fetched.

That's all despite a head of state not being able to stand trial in the US anyway. 

Edited Monday at 18:15 by egg

[benjii]

Hugo Chavez was speaking about this in 2006. He was saying he had been tipped off that the US would accuse him, personally, of being a drug trafficker and have him snatched.

[badgerx16]

If they are so concerned about drug smuggling, why haven't the US military moved into northern Mexico ?  Almost all of the drugs entering the US come from there.

Edited Monday at 18:34 by badgerx16

[egg]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If they are so concerned about drug smuggling, why haven't the US military moved into northern Mexico ?  Almost all of the drugs entering the US come from there.

It's all bollox. The issue is about stopping the flow of oil and money to feck up China, Iran, India, and other states the US want to peg down. The cover story is a crap attempt to give legitimacy to regime change and put a patsy in charge. 

[AlexLaw76]

Lots of unrest in Iran. Looks ripe for some regime change 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Lots of unrest in Iran. Looks ripe for some regime change 

 

Normally I’d welcome the back potentially of the IRG. Scum of the earth.

But Trump is just as much of an extremist loon as they are and unlike Venezuela, Iran has nukes. I don’t think the IDF got them all. God/Allah knows where we are headed as a planet.

[whelk]

seeing the US trying to ‘govern’ Iran would be comedy gold

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

seeing the US trying to ‘govern’ Iran would be comedy gold

If it didn’t blow us all up first.

The positives are possibly the back of the IRG and hopefully a hammering for MAGA at November’s mid-terms so Trump is made into a lame duck. America First, no overseas wars….thats assuming Epstein files don’t yield more embarrassing stuff on Trump. 

[Weston Super Saint]

Would there be the same level of passive acceptance if Putin had 'arrested' (kidnapped) Zelensky 3 years ago or would it have been looked at differently?

Would it be possible for Starmer to 'arrest' whoever is the French PM this week and get away with it, installing one that he can trust to stop the boats?

International politics just took a big, bold step.

[benjii]

13 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Normally I’d welcome the back potentially of the IRG. Scum of the earth.

But Trump is just as much of an extremist loon as they are and unlike Venezuela, Iran has nukes. I don’t think the IDF got them all. God/Allah knows where we are headed as a planet.

If I was a country with important natural resources, I think I would be doing my best to develop nukes as quickly as possible. 

[benjii]

13 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If it didn’t blow us all up first.

The positives are possibly the back of the IRG and hopefully a hammering for MAGA at November’s mid-terms so Trump is made into a lame duck. America First, no overseas wars….thats assuming Epstein files don’t yield more embarrassing stuff on Trump. 

Do you think election results will be respected? I don’t think so.

[badgerx16]

Obergruppenfuhrer Steven Miller has said that nobody is going to fight the US over Greenland.

Edited 15 hours ago by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

He is right, but does he want to push it that far if a NATO country calls for NATO assistance? If the EU stands firm would Trump have the balls to go against the NATO agreement and launch an attic on another NATO signatory?

https://europeannewsroom.com/eu-backs-greenlands-sovereignty-after-trump-threat/

He has a history of backing down when things get too difficult. It’s all a bit bizarre anyway. If he wants to mine there he can apply for licences and if he wants to increase his bases there he only has to ask. To state the obvious, Denmark (Greenland) are part of NATO as are the USA so it is in their interest to support any NATO defence plans.

Trump thinks that “the West” is his to do with as he pleases. Time for Europe to tell him otherwise.
 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by sadoldgit

[31cc]

I'm impressed by people's confidence that there will be mid-term elections at all.

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

Do you think election results will be respected? I don’t think so.

If they aren’t, the larger and wealthier states with a coastline who could trade have the option of breaking away and I absolutely would not blame them. Seattle and Washington State would be better off with Canada as well.

[Gloucester Saint]

28 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Obergtuppenfuhrer Steven Miller has said that nobody is going to fight the US over Greenland.

NATO has to fight Trump if he does that and back Denmark up. I think that would be the point the electorate turns violent against Trump, the vile Stephen Miller, Bondi and the rest. 

[Farmer Saint]

On 13/12/2025 at 10:31, Farmer Saint said:

 

Very interesting from Sky News again, they're really good at this sort of analysis.

 

Worth reposting this I think for those that haven't seen it.

[benjii]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If they aren’t, the larger and wealthier states with a coastline who could trade have the option of breaking away and I absolutely would not blame them. Seattle and Washington State would be better off with Canada as well.

Yeah, but how long does that process take? And would it be allowed to happen? There's no way a MAGA government would let California secede, given how many of his backers/advisers are technically folk and the potential strategic importance of AI.

It feels as though America is properly fucked now.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, benjii said:

Yeah, but how long does that process take? And would it be allowed to happen? There's no way a MAGA government would let California secede, given how many of his backers/advisers are technically folk and the potential strategic importance of AI.

It feels as though America is properly fucked now.

Do the major states want to be part of a large non-democratic autocracy that flies in the face of the Founding Fathers?

Some of the bigger ones won’t, especially Blue states, and could be some internal warfare as a result. 

[sadoldgit]

You can hear the champagne corks popping in the Kremlin from here.

[AlexLaw76]

Notice the PM has said the future of Greenland lies with the natives.

Be nice if he followed suit with the Chagos Islands 

[tdmickey3]

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Notice the PM has said the future of Greenland lies with the natives.

Be nice if he followed suit with the Chagos Islands 

On 3 October 2024, the UK and Mauritian governments announced they had reached an agreement on the sovereignty of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT), also known as the Chagos Archipelago. Negotiations began in November 2022 under the government of Rishi Sunak.

[sadoldgit]

34 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Notice the PM has said the future of Greenland lies with the natives.

Be nice if he followed suit with the Chagos Islands 

Even nicer if you had done some background reading about the Chagos situation.

[badgerx16]

I think Greenland should vote to cede from Denmark, and join Canada instead.

[sadoldgit]

Weren’t the Norsemen the first Europeans to set foot in the New World? Perhaps Denmark should suggest they swap Greenland for the USA?

[sadoldgit]

[benjii]