Long Shot Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 If, as it seems, Lowe is taking most, if not all, of the "big" footballing decisions at the moment it begs the question what is the point of having Michael Wilde as Southampton FC chairman? Does he actually do anything apart from the odd bit of PR on here and step in when Lowe is on holiday? According to another thread on SWF, yesterday he had no idea of who was being sold and who wasn't. You would have thought the Football Chairman would at least be kept in the loop, otherwise just what is the point? Lowe might as well hold both positions - at least it would be one less tea cup to wash up after board meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 It delivers his shares into Lowe's pocket, and gives the club someone to serve the drinks on the team bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole1 Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Michael Wilde is poinltess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Sandie Shaw sang a song about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Sandie Shaw sang a song about him. Did rather well in the Eurovision Song Contest, I seem to recall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Don`t forget the "Footbal First" Manifesto Does anyone still have a copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 17 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Sandie Shaw sang a song about him. Ha ha nice one ESB - you must be a "barefoot" child of the 60s. Seriously though, I know his shares were neccesary to oust Crouch but at the end of the day I would feel a tad embarrased with the title of Southapmton FC Chairman while being kept in the dark with footballing decisions. In fact I would be a lot more comfortable outside the tent at present, sitting in an executive box and putting a few pennies into the club coffers. He's resigned out of the blue once before (so as not to hinder investment as I recall) so he could always "do the double". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 So pointless that he comes on here and reads comments without having the guts to defend himself or even answer some of the many questions people have from him. What a chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I like to think he is busy working hard on completing a multi million pound takeover.. then again, I am mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 So pointless that he comes on here and reads comments without having the guts to defend himself or even answer some of the many questions people have from him. What a chump. I believe that is a little harsh to call him a chump, I am sure he means well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I believe that is a little harsh to call him a chump, I am sure he means well. Do you? I certainly don't. Is there anything which makes you think he means well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Let me give you my view. First, it was a marriage of convenience in an attempt to stave off probable Administration. Lowe is the "paid" employee. Wilde is non executive. Lowe was on holiday until Thursday so I assume the Stoke interest was the agent telling the club Davies wanted to go and then Stoke making contact with the club to follow up. Wilde arrives on Saturday and is confronted before Lowe has spoken to him (I know there is such a thing as a mobile phone or email) and says he knows nothing and then allegedly backtracks and says he has just heard Lowe tell a friend. Wilde has a non executive position in the club as Football Chairman but Lowe makes the executive decisions taking advice from all on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Do you? I certainly don't. Is there anything which makes you think he means well? No, your right, as you have said before, I am full of drivel and as I have said before my wife says exactly the same about me. It was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 So pointless that he comes on here and reads comments without having the guts to defend himself or even answer some of the many questions people have from him. What a chump. Why should he defend himself from some of the ****e posted on here. Mr Wilde would be best advised to keep his own counsel or reply throught the proper channels at a fans forum or the Official site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Let me give you my view. First, it was a marriage of convenience in an attempt to stave off probable Administration. Lowe is the "paid" employee. Wilde is non executive. Lowe was on holiday until Thursday so I assume the Stoke interest was the agent telling the club Davies wanted to go and then Stoke making contact with the club to follow up. Wilde arrives on Saturday and is confronted before Lowe has spoken to him (I know there is such a thing as a mobile phone or email) and says he knows nothing and then allegedly backtracks and says he has just heard Lowe tell a friend. Wilde has a non executive position in the club as Football Chairman but Lowe makes the executive decisions taking advice from all on the board. Lots of assumptions there. I go along with the theory that he is a non-entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 He does the chairmens notes in the programmes. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole1 Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I thought his position would mean he's the public face of Southampton and do things like the Solent forum. So far there's been 3 posts informing us he flew with Flybe to the Exeter game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 MW is just a sad Liverpool supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I thought his position would mean he's the public face of Southampton and do things like the Solent forum. So far there's been 3 posts informing us he flew with Flybe to the Exeter game. And frankly that is more than enough! How many other football club chairmen post on an innernetz message board FFS?? He should spend his time chairmaning the football club not waste it on here - that's our job ffs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Wilde...about as useful as a choclate teapot. He saddled us AGAIN with Lowe. He is also responsible therefore for supporter against supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 And frankly that is more than enough! How many other football club chairmen post on an innernetz message board FFS?? He should spend his time chairmaning the football club not waste it on here - that's our job ffs!! Yeah, Wilde off our site. Only joking Mike, I am always available for any freebees in the suites on match days. Please give me a ring and I will tell you about some of these posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole1 Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Wilde...about as useful as a choclate teapot. He saddled us AGAIN with Lowe. He is also responsible therefore for supporter against supporter. Trust is the key word. Does anyone trust Michael Wilde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Didn't the SOS people tell Wilde they wanted him back as chairman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Why should he defend himself from some of the ****e posted on here. Mr Wilde would be best advised to keep his own counsel or reply throught the proper channels at a fans forum or the Official site. Yeah, but there again he declined his invitation to the Solent Fans Forum, didnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Yeah, but there again he declined his invitation to the Solent Fans Forum, didnt he? Yet he met the group who called themselves SOS. Why do that and not an open meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Yet he met the group who called themselves SOS. Why do that and not an open meeting? I think we all know he was only using the SOS to re-establish his 'fans' position and thus regain control [with lowe].... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Yet he met the group who called themselves SOS. Why do that and not an open meeting? You tell me. A more select audience more likely to be (sym)pathetic, probably.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I think we all know he was only using the SOS to re-establish his 'fans' position and thus regain control [with lowe].... There's something in the back of my mind about what Wilde apparently told Adrew Cowen following the SOS meeting. Did the SOS team tell Wilde they wanted him back or did Wilde make this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 There's something in the back of my mind about what Wilde apparently told Adrew Cowen following the SOS meeting. Did the SOS team tell Wilde they wanted him back or did Wilde make this up? Pretty sure they've confirmed that he made it all up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 It cost the ***** 2.5 million to throw his hand in with a total failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puff the magic dragon Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 It cost the ***** 2.5 million to throw his hand in with a total failure. Where do you get this figure from? How much did Lowe and Cowen pocket when Wilde forced them out? How much did the Execs cost to get shut of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puff the magic dragon Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 It cost the ***** 2.5 million to throw his hand in with a total failure. Where do you get this figure from? How much did Lowe and Cowen pocket when Wilde forced them out? How much did the Execs cost to get shut of? The *****'s confused me. Thought you were talking about club funds, not the shares Wilde bought. That said if you add the amount Wilde has cost the club to the amount he spend it only compounds his failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Don`t forget the "Footbal First" Manifesto Does anyone still have a copy? Yes, as well as a 5 live interview by Hoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Do you? I certainly don't. Is there anything which makes you think he means well? Yes, the fact that he doesn't have to give any of his time to the club, or put himself in a position where the moronic fringe heap abuse on him. If he didn't mean well and have Saints future at heart, he'd spend his time doing something else. His role is also fairly obvious. Lowe is Chairman of WH Ireland a city Stock Brokering firm, based in Manchester, which has a turnover of more than £40m and which manages funds of £1.75bn. Lowe is clearly busy with his business commitments and needs support to run SFC, so that sharing the chairmanship role with Wilde, given that they need each other's shareholdings to control the club, not only makes sense but is probably essential to their partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Yes, the fact that he doesn't have to give any of his time to the club, or put himself in a position where the moronic fringe heap abuse on him. If he didn't mean well and have Saints future at heart, he'd spend his time doing something else. His role is also fairly obvious. Lowe is Chairman of WH Ireland a city Stock Brokering firm, based in Manchester, which has a turnover of more than £40m and which manages funds of £1.75bn. Lowe is clearly busy with his business commitments and needs support to run SFC, so that sharing the chairmanship role with Wilde, given that they need each other's shareholdings to control the club, not only makes sense but is probably essential to their partnership. LOL Of course he doesn't HAVE to give up any of his time, and of course he COULD do something else instead. The real question is, why does a Liverpool fan buy so many shares in SFC in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Yes, the fact that he doesn't have to give any of his time to the club, or put himself in a position where the moronic fringe heap abuse on him. If he didn't mean well and have Saints future at heart, he'd spend his time doing something else. His role is also fairly obvious. Lowe is Chairman of WH Ireland a city Stock Brokering firm, based in Manchester, which has a turnover of more than £40m and which manages funds of £1.75bn. Lowe is clearly busy with his business commitments and needs support to run SFC, so that sharing the chairmanship role with Wilde, given that they need each other's shareholdings to control the club, not only makes sense but is probably essential to their partnership. Are you Scooby in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Are you Scooby in disguise? Fact, as opposed to opinion is hard to argue against, isn't it. Its much easier just to resort to some juvenile name-calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 IMHO Wilde is a very decent guy. But IMHO he saw his investment going well south and decided that Lowe was his only salvation. I really hope it works, but I'm now awaiting the next chapter, all in the knowledge that there are very very strong individuals out there ready to make sure this club never dies. All IMHO of course Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Ha ha nice one ESB - you must be a "barefoot" child of the 60s. Seriously though, I know his shares were neccesary to oust Crouch but at the end of the day I would feel a tad embarrased with the title of Southapmton FC Chairman while being kept in the dark with footballing decisions. In fact I would be a lot more comfortable outside the tent at present, sitting in an executive box and putting a few pennies into the club coffers. He's resigned out of the blue once before (so as not to hinder investment as I recall) so he could always "do the double". Your last point is one which I also have an issue with. How long before he realises that he's just a puppet? How long before Lowe tires of him? Then who will run to LC for a supportive arm around the shoulder and "never mind mate, you and me, with all our shares, can oust that dirty rotten scoundrel". Then, as Jimmy young used to say "Orft we jolly well go" as the merry-go-round again gathers momentum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I'm now awaiting the next chapter, all in the knowledge that there are very very strong individuals out there ready to make sure this club never dies. Talk is cheap (as we have seen before many, many times) please pass on this message - either put up or shut up and stop trying to derail the club at every turn.... Did anyone else notice how nicely pre-season was going, how settled the club seemed to be (considering the circumstances) and how little information was leaking from the club...suddenly a few days before the season is about to begin and we start to hear whispers of takeovers etc IF these very very strong people are in anyway behinid this i'm not entirely sure they have the clubs best interests at heart. All IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Fact, as opposed to opinion is hard to argue against, isn't it. Its much easier just to resort to some juvenile name-calling. Well you sing from Scoobys songsheet so why take offence at a reasonable assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Talk is cheap (as we have seen before many, many times) please pass on this message - either put up or shut up and stop trying to derail the club at every turn.... Did anyone else notice how nicely pre-season was going, how settled the club seemed to be (considering the circumstances) and how little information was leaking from the club...suddenly a few days before the season is about to begin and we start to hear whispers of takeovers etc IF these very very strong people are in anyway behinid this i'm not entirely sure they have the clubs best interests at heart. All IMHO I'm looking forward to a fantastic season under Lowe and Wilde. All I'm saying is that if it all goes well south we will be in for a soft landing. Hope that clarifies things. Kind Regards Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Morph do you think Lowe and Wilde will sell up for peanuts on the eve of administration, or will they call in the administrators and inflict a points deduction on the club out of spite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I'm looking forward to a fantastic season under Lowe and Wilde. All I'm saying is that if it all goes well south we will be in for a soft landing. Hope that clarifies things. Kind Regards Morph Why do you have to be looking forward to a fantastic season under Lowe and Wilde? Why can you not be looking forward to a fantastic season, watching young, home grown players who are passionate about our club?? If only some of the fans were as passionate about supporting our teams as they are supporting their personal vendettas with Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde........ With regards to your south point - with a statement like that, your very very strong friends are obviously not that strong then. Thanks for the clarification though, enjoy your season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 IMHO Wilde is a very decent guy. But IMHO he saw his investment going well south and decided that Lowe was his only salvation. I really hope it works, but I'm now awaiting the next chapter, all in the knowledge that there are very very strong individuals out there ready to make sure this club never dies. All IMHO of course Morph LOL, this must be the 21st century equivalent of body snatchers I take it. As the only way they will afford it is to quietly dig up the corpse in the mid of night. Nowadays, it's standard practice to have a post mortem, so when they recover the body, it will be missing most of it's main organs. For someone that cares so much for the club, they really must enjoy Russian roulette to take it this close to the wire. Either that or they are just a bunch of chancers with a paper bag to **** in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 If, as it seems, Lowe is taking most, if not all, of the "big" footballing decisions at the moment it begs the question what is the point of having Michael Wilde as Southampton FC chairman? Did you really expect anything else............Lowe has an Ego bigger than Canada, and no-one, and I mean no-one, willbe telling him how to run our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 I'm looking forward to a fantastic season under Lowe and Wilde. All I'm saying is that if it all goes well south we will be in for a soft landing. Hope that clarifies things. Kind Regards Morph Excellent. So there's no takeover in the offing, but there are people waiting in the wings to buy the club on the cheap once we go into administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 Did you really expect anything else............Lowe has an Ego bigger than Canada, and no-one, and I mean no-one, willbe telling him how to run our club. HIS club FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Red Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 If, as it seems, Lowe is taking most, if not all, of the "big" footballing decisions at the moment it begs the question what is the point of having Michael Wilde as Southampton FC chairman? Does he actually do anything apart from the odd bit of PR on here and step in when Lowe is on holiday? According to another thread on SWF, yesterday he had no idea of who was being sold and who wasn't. You would have thought the Football Chairman would at least be kept in the loop, otherwise just what is the point? Lowe might as well hold both positions - at least it would be one less tea cup to wash up after board meetings. Don't want to spoil the party but MW is the General on the Hill. RL has been sent in with the troops to either pull off an unlikely victory or die on his sword. Didn't believe it myself until told by one ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 17 August, 2008 Share Posted 17 August, 2008 HIS club FFS All 7% of it...not really HIS club is it. The vast majority of small shareholders combined have more shares than Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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