The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

It doesn’t mean to say that she hasn’t/wouldn’t shag Farage too though does it? Her taste in men is clearly questionable.

I can’t stand her but even so, that’s a bit much there SOG. She’s her own woman whatever I think of her politics and journalistic methods.

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

No one said he was? You seem to have missed the point. It isn’t as if we are comparing Brad Pitt and Tice. Tice and Farage however…

Which order would you shag Taylor-Greene, Dorries, Oakshott and Katie Hopkins?

[Turkish]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

I can’t stand her but even so, that’s a bit much there SOG. She’s her own woman whatever I think of her politics and journalistic methods.

Makes you laugh doesnt it. If any of the "usual suspects" "pile on gang" or "unholy trinty" had said anything remotely similar he'd be all over it calling them a volley of names and talking about women like a piece of meat. The mask slips again.

[iansums]

5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Good to see inflation falling, due to a reduction in energy prices. As said before, not really influenced much by government policy (unless it's a batshit mental policy), but good all the same:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c07m4mx5759t

In theory food prices should reduce slightly next time due to the lag time taking effect between energy prices and imports/logistics.

Of course, it is good to see inflation fall, but it's less than expected and still leaves us with higher inflation than the rest of Europe. It was pretty much level with Europe before the GE.

[badgerx16]

21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

 

I couldn’t say for certain that she has shagged Farage. Can you say for certain that she hasn’t?

I can't say for certain that you haven't.

[tdmickey3]

15 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I can't say for certain that you haven't.

Who would want to..?

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Who would want to..?

Laure Ferrari.

[AlexLaw76]

You are more likely to be shagged by Isobel Oakshot than get groped by an Eritrean down the park.

Edited 2 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[egg]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

No one said he was? You seem to have missed the point. It isn’t as if we are comparing Brad Pitt and Tice. Tice and Farage however…

I couldn’t say for certain that she has shagged Farage. Can you say for certain that she hasn’t?

The point is that your comment was crass and fucking stupid. This follow up from you is at least equally bad.

[Turkish]

19 minutes ago, egg said:

The point is that your comment was crass and fucking stupid. This follow up from you is at least equally bad.

What makes it even worse is that he posted the first bit, then went back and edited it adding the bit about not knowing for certain, like this was some silver bullet that made his point even more valid. All it did was make it look even worse. 

[egg]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What makes it even worse is that he posted the first bit, then went back and edited it adding the bit about not knowing for certain, like this was some silver bullet that made his point even more valid. All it did was make it look even worse. 

Yep. Hardly the high point of a dubious posting career. 

[sadoldgit]

32 minutes ago, egg said:

The point is that your comment was crass and fucking stupid. This follow up from you is at least equally bad.

This is a football forum. A large proportion on posts on here are crass and fucking stupid. You know that just as well as I do. You also know as well as I do where John Crace’s comment came from (as a political sketch writer his job it to make fun of politicians). I am sorry that you have felt the need to take things so personally and seriously but I guess, like another poster in here, you feel the need to have a pop because you just don’t like me. 

[sadoldgit]

16 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What makes it even worse is that he posted the first bit, then went back and edited it adding the bit about not knowing for certain, like this was some silver bullet that made his point even more valid. All it did was make it look even worse. 

You really need to spend more time on your job and with your family and friends. This need you have to follow certain people around and have a pop at them on a daily basis is not good for your mental health.

[Turkish]

Just now, sadoldgit said:

You really need to spend more time on your job and with your family and friends. This need you have to follow certain people around and have a pop at them on a daily basis is not good for your mental health.

Make a dick of yourself and go on the attack. Typical Sog, arrogant, narcissistic response. Look in the mirror sunshine.

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I can't say for certain that you haven't.

I can promise you that, if I was a woman, Farage is one of the people I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole.

[egg]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

This is a football forum. A large proportion on posts on here are crass and fucking stupid. You know that just as well as I do. You also know as well as I do where John Crace’s comment came from (as a political sketch writer his job it to make fun of politicians). I am sorry that you have felt the need to take things so personally and seriously but I guess, like another poster in here, you feel the need to have a pop because you just don’t like me. 

I'm not taking anything personally. I'm just stating that I thought your post utterly stupid. That's because it was. As was the follow up.

I have no issue with you. I don't know you. I rarely take issue with you. Often the opposite. I play the post not the poster. Try it. 

[sadoldgit]

Just now, Turkish said:

Make a dick of yourself and go on the attack. Typical Sog, arrogant, narcissistic response. Look in the mirror sunshine.

You will know all about a narcissistic response. You are desperate for attention, good or bad. Like everyone else on the planet, I get things wrong. So what? I live with the fact, quite happily, that I am far from perfect. You, on the other hand, can’t handle that you are not so live in a world where you make out that you are (ref. Donald Trump). How many grown men brag about the number of laughing emojis they have had on here? I rest my case.

[sadoldgit]

26 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not taking anything personally. I'm just stating that I thought your post utterly stupid. That's because it was. As was the follow up.

I have no issue with you. I don't know you. I rarely take issue with you. Often the opposite. I play the post not the poster. Try it. 

Fair enough, I just thought your response was a bit over the top given the subject manner. I know you don’t know me, but you did post a while back that you didn’t particularly like me (not my posts). It’s okay. I can live with that. And yes, I do play the poster on occasion, as I have been played myself rather than my posts.

I do remember you “playing” a certain poster not so long ago.

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[Turkish]

21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You will know all about a narcissistic response. You are desperate for attention, good or bad. Like everyone else on the planet, I get things wrong. So what? I live with the fact, quite happily, that I am far from perfect. You, on the other hand, can’t handle that you are not so live in a world where you make out that you are (ref. Donald Trump). How many grown men brag about the number of laughing emojis they have had on here? I rest my case.

You're not happy though are you. You've a very miserable, angry, bitter man who has some very questionable views shrouded in cloak of wanting to always been seen on what you think is the right side of the debate. The fact that you cannot stand anyone who disagrees with you or pulls you up on your comment is testimony to that. You see yourself then see me and it's everything you wish you could be.

As i mentioned earlier, in a recent study of this forum and it's posters it was found that people who liked my posts were happier, more balanced, less angry and more intelligent people. You are proof of this.

Edited 1 hour ago by Turkish

[Turkish]

14 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I can promise you that, if I was a woman, Farage is one of the people I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole.

but as a bloke you appear to have some odd fascination with him

Edited 1 hour ago by Turkish

[Sir Ralph]

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It seems that the actual numbers of people leaving this country have remained vaguely similar since 2021/22. The change reported is due to a way that the figures are calculated. So the idea that more people are leaving the UK due to Reeves’ policies isn’t necessarily true.

Where did you get that from? The numbers yesterday said the opposite

[Sir Ralph]

The hard left are making their move to take control of the country. Hopefully it fails but this isn’t what people voted for and what lots feared. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Where did you get that from? The numbers yesterday said the opposite

I'm thinking about leaving the country for a few years using my second passport. However it's not because Labour are in power, it's because of the cunts that live in this country and the potential for those cunts to be in charge at the next election.

[sadoldgit]

7 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Where did you get that from? The numbers yesterday said the opposite

It was on LBC this morning. The guy said the numbers had increased because they are now calculated in a different way, but if using the old method there was little change over the last 4 years.

[sadoldgit]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

The hard left are making their move to take control of the country. Hopefully it fails but this isn’t what people voted for and what lots feared. 

Hard left? Who? The only people I can see making moves are from the opposite end of the political spectrum. What have I missed?

[Farmer Saint]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

It was on LBC this morning. The guy said the numbers had increased because they are now calculated in a different way, but if using the old method there was little change over the last 4 years.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/migration-record-ons-visa-rules-b2867275.html

"In the three years between the end of 2021 and the end of 2024, 344,000 more Britons are believed to have emigrated than the original estimate indicated, after the Office for National Statistics (ONS) updated its methodology."

[badgerx16]

22 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

The hard left are making their move to take control of the country. Hopefully it fails but this isn’t what people voted for and what lots feared. 

Edited 56 minutes ago by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

48 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm thinking about leaving the country for a few years using my second passport. However it's not because Labour are in power, it's because of the cunts that live in this country and the potential for those cunts to be in charge at the next election.

We had that conversation a couple of months ago. If we were 10 years younger we might seriously consider it. 14 years of austerity, Brexit and Covid have all left this country in the crapper. Anyone who thinks that Labour, or anyone else for that matter, can turn things around quickly are delusional. We like to think that we are a tolerant country but the truth is that we are rapidly turning into the country we were in the 70’s. 
Starmer was right when he said it would take up to two terms to fix this country. Like with football managers now, if they don’t deliver in two months they can expect the sack. Just over a year in to an even tougher job and Starmer is, supposedly, toast.

Driving back from the supermarket today I noticed that the Union and St George’s flags hanging from the lampposts are now just shredded rags. If the people who put them up were so proud of their country, why haven they replaced them, or at least taken them down as they look a mess? Just the usual nationalistic gesturing I suppose. What’s next?

The country needs more money which means taxes will need to rise in the budget. Starmer and Reeves will get a kicking but at some point this country, all of us, are going to have to accept that we voted economic sanctions on ourselves in 2016 and we will be paying the price for some time to come - be it under Labour, the Tories, the LibDems, Reform or the Greens. The alternative is even less public spending and we know where that leaves us.