The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Sir Ralph]

4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Where have I supported them? Stupid, and a liar. Great combo.

So what’s your opinion? As I’m stupid and you’re really clever you tell me how the government should have run the previous and upcoming budget from a tax and spending cut perspective? 

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9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

You just don’t like my responses and you still haven’t responded to my question. This is circular…

 

you: provide me an awnser

me: here’s the response

you: I don’t agree

me: ok answer my question

you: ignore

You all want to ask questions but never answer them yourselves

It's you that is calling for cuts. It's you that can't say what you want to see cut. It's not for me to answer for you, it doesn't work like that. Although you haven't actually asked me anything, but I'm out of here so don't bother asking me anything now. 

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

So what’s your opinion? As I’m stupid and you’re really clever you tell me how the government should have run the previous and upcoming budget from a tax and spending cut perspective? 

Just show me where I was supporting them first or are you lying, again?

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[Sir Ralph]

9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Just show me where I was supporting them first or are you lying, again.

In these latest posts I don’t think you said you explicitly supported them. Whilst not explicit, your suggestion is that the governments approach to not reducing spending is justifiable. Your previous posts said you supported their pro tax position actually, maybe you don’t remember that. Please respond to my question then. Don’t dodge it again

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[Sir Ralph]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

It's you that is calling for cuts. It's you that can't say what you want to see cut. It's not for me to answer for you, it doesn't work like that. Although you haven't actually asked me anything, but I'm out of here so don't bother asking me anything now. 

I just asked your mate anyway. Feel free or dodge it. Again easy to ask but to concede a position is always more difficult. So far I’ve replied to your questions, you haven’t liked my replies and then neither of you have responded to my questions just the “I’m not the government”. Don’t hide behind that give an opinion

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[Farmer Saint]

11 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t think you said you supported them. Whilst not explicit, your suggestion is that the governments approach to not reducing spending is justifiable. Please respond to my question then. Don’t dodge it again

You want my genuine thoughts? Get the benefits bill through, cancel the triple lock, put the higher rate of tax up to 47%, 2% wealth tax over £10m (if workable), re-establish the NI cuts, postpone electric car mandate for a further 10 years, create a national care service for nursing homes to clear NHS beds, 5 years systems and process improvement analysis of the NHS, look at what we can do to get back into the single market.

Country before party.

By the way, respond if you want, but I couldn't give two shiny fucks on your opinion of the above as you've proven yourself too far out of your depth. You're going back on ignore because again you've lied to try to prove a point.

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[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

You want my genuine thoughts? Get the benefits bill through, cancel the triple lock, put the higher rate of tax up to 47%, 2% wealth tax over £10m (if workable), re-establish the NI cuts, postpone electric car mandate for a further 10 years, create a national care service for nursing homes to clear NHS beds, 5 years systems and process improvement analysis of the NHS, look at what we can do to get back into the single market.

Country before party.

Fair enough- I agree with most of this but disagree with some of this such as higher rate of tax, wealth tax and the single market would be subject to what deal we could strike (but agree in principle). I think there are government savings before those things I’ve mentioned above (or in addition) that should be considered. Notice I haven’t asked you full blown details or dossier on any of this just understood the principle of it because, like me, you don’t have full access to government figures in the first instance.

The question posed to me was about cuts which is what I responded to. You’re more balanced than I thought you were. Hands up

 

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[Sir Ralph]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

You want my genuine thoughts? Get the benefits bill through, cancel the triple lock, put the higher rate of tax up to 47%, 2% wealth tax over £10m (if workable), re-establish the NI cuts, postpone electric car mandate for a further 10 years, create a national care service for nursing homes to clear NHS beds, 5 years systems and process improvement analysis of the NHS, look at what we can do to get back into the single market.

Country before party.

By the way, respond if you want, but I couldn't give two shiny fucks on your opinion of the above as you've proven yourself too far out of your depth. You're going back on ignore because again you've lied to try to prove a point.

Oh dear you then added the last para. after I replied. For a moment (the only moment so far in any of our interactions) I respected your balance. I didn’t ask for dossier on the points I disagreed with which was frankly ludicrous (unlike you) but I should have done in hindsight. My responses to a specific question are much more specific than your replies to  more general questions. 

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[trousers]

If people keep respecting others' opinions as much as this then this thread could well reach 100 pages before Christmas...

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

If people keep respecting others' opinions as much as this then this thread could well reach 100 pages before Christmas...

After a few beers, I agree there’s a lot of agro on this page, partly instigated by me. Frankly we are a bunch of sad bastards who don’t know each other, making cases about shit we don’t know the full answer to, about stuff that when it comes to the ultimate life and death crunch it won’t matter. Lots of egos cocking off, including me. Looking forward to QPR tomorrow.

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[Sir Ralph]

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