ecuk268 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Turkish said: He’s quite dashing. Is he our best looking PM ever? My Gran thought that Anthony Eden was a very handsome gentleman.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Enjoy before the mods take it down for being too hot...
Gloucester Saint Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago What that shows @Holmes_and_Watson is my first (nearly) 20 years of life = 3 PMs Last 10 years = 7 PMs
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: What that shows @Holmes_and_Watson is my first (nearly) 20 years of life = 3 PMs Last 10 years = 7 PMs So hard to be an influencer in the social media age. 🙂 1
Challenger Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Last tried by Liz Truss. 🙂 Something's got to change, unless we really are making plans for Nigel ? 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 54 minutes ago, Challenger said: Something's got to change, unless we really are making plans for Nigel ? There’s an appetite for change for Burnham in a way there never really was for Starmer but he’s got little margin for error. He can tweak around taxes to generate a bit more change but he’ll need to use the scalpel on the welfare budget https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/what-can-andy-burnham-actually-do/ Interesting piece by the Conversation on what he might do https://theconversation.com/how-andy-burnham-may-try-to-give-the-uk-economy-a-boost-in-his-10-year-plan-286207. His initial statements are bold and it’s hard to see the fiscal headroom he’s got to deliver it with. As for Farage, he’s very tarnished now by the bung, money laundering and other scandals, more to come out as well is the rumour. Whatever they’re doing in the polls at the moment, they’re going to get hit by tactical voting in an actual GE which is why Farage gets so tetchy with YouGov. They’ll get a Lib Dem+ amount of seats next time which very impressive from where they’ve come from but no-one is collaborating with them for power. Enjoyed seeing Badenoch, Starmer and Davey queuing up to take the piss out of Farage in Starmer’s final PMQs. Even their own MPs were laughing. Not the same core base without Farage as leader and would lead to lower turnout as some don’t vote normally but Reform are damaged anywhere beyond their base with him as leader. Coalitions likely but they are too toxic for the Tories to consider let alone anyone else. Not sure he’s the ‘change, just any change’ for enough people now. Edited 9 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Enjoy before the mods take it down for being too hot... I can remember 18 of those.
Gloucester Saint Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I can remember 18 of those. Writing on the names is too small to read but back to Attlee?
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I wonder how the markets will react on Monday one we find out the make up of the cabinet? Apparently Raynor will have Health. Who will be Chancellor?
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Writing on the names is too small to read but back to Attlee? Not quite but back to Churchill. I was born in 1949. And it feels like it. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c935yx2z9d4o Surprised he is doing this as it makes no difference...so we are told
Gloucester Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: I wonder how the markets will react on Monday one we find out the make up of the cabinet? Apparently Raynor will have Health. Who will be Chancellor? Mahmood apparently. Safest with the markets but she’s calmed things down a lot further at the Home Office. His other safe pair of hands, Yvette Cooper, it’ll be interesting to see where she ends up. Streeting, what prize for not standing? Share your cynicism on Rayner and also Miliband (Ed variety, not David who might turn up via peerage). Although Streeting already cut a 60% swathe through NHS England’s staffing and the DOHSC merger and waiting lists coming down albeit not across the board so only so much harm she could do. Allisder Heath has some front in the DT. Yes, the same one who wanked off over Truss’s budget (the greatest in a generation apparently) and Truss herself. I don’t think I’ll put much store in his opinions. Nor the Mail who ditto. Keynes stopped working in the 1970s and the Thatcher levers haven’t been working for quite some time. Burnham worries me on the economy but economics goes in cycles. Edited 1 hour ago by Gloucester Saint
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c935yx2z9d4o Surprised he is doing this as it makes no difference...so we are told Glad he is. Ditto pulling water and energy companions back into public ownership, and addressing social housing. Funding will be interesting, but nice to see a PM trying to sort out a historic mess at last. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c935yx2z9d4o Surprised he is doing this as it makes no difference...so we are told Bit awkward for Ed.
Farmer Saint Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 21 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c935yx2z9d4o Surprised he is doing this as it makes no difference...so we are told Makes no difference to what?
AlexLaw76 Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Bit awkward for Ed. and a couple on here who were certain it makes no difference at all and doing so would require infrastructure that is now beyond us.
Sir Ralph Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago (edited) 14 hours ago, egg said: I am also a sensible employer. I suspect several of my staff are union members. I don't know who - who would I have to? It's odd to believe that I would think differently of them if I knew who they were. Is your position that sensible employers have a negative view of employees who are union members? If so, based on what. And yes, I've been a Union member. Were you a union member in the private or public sector? I explained earlier why some employers may have a negative view of unions. That view isn’t exactly ground breaking and would be a common view in many private sector businesses. I know senior people in the public sector who also do not like the unions. In addition to what I mentioned above, unions sometimes create increased restriction around employment and business functions. This makes the workplace less competitive and actually reduces business growth and the potential to operate more efficiency thereby creating more jobs. This is a reflection of some unions that have a socialist mindset whilst trying to operate within a capitalist system. Edited 46 minutes ago by Sir Ralph
egg Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: and a couple on here who were certain it makes no difference at all and doing so would require infrastructure that is now beyond us. What Farmer said...
egg Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said: Were you a union member in the private or public sector? I explained earlier why some employers may have a negative view of unions. That view isn’t exactly ground breaking and would be a common view in many private sector businesses. I know senior people in the public sector who also do not like the unions. In addition to what I mentioned above, unions sometimes create increased restriction around employment and business functions. This makes the workplace less competitive and actually reduces business growth and the potential to operate more efficiency thereby creating more jobs. This is a reflection of some unions that have a socialist mindset whilst trying to operate within a capitalist system. It's got nowt to do with you mate. The simple point is that as an employee my Union membership did not impact how my employer saw me or treated me, and as an employer it makes no difference to how I see or treat my staff. I'm interested in your life experiences which makes you believe that union membership leads to employers thinking negatively of their staff - your opinions seem to be based on perception and attitude. 1
badgerx16 Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, egg said: It's got nowt to do with you mate. The simple point is that as an employee my Union membership did not impact how my employer saw me or treated me, and as an employer it makes no difference to how I see or treat my staff. I'm interested in your life experiences which makes you believe that union membership leads to employers thinking negatively of their staff - your opinions seem to be based on perception and attitude. I think SR has similar feelings over most employment Law as well. 2
whelk Posted 32 minutes ago Posted 32 minutes ago (edited) There are plenty of business owners who would love to have workers’ rights back to Victorian times, no leave, no sick pay, no pension, no contracts and would love to use cheap immigrants workers and confiscate their passports - like they do in the beautiful paradise UAE. Of course they don’t like the thought of unions restricting how they would love to treat their workers. Edited 32 minutes ago by whelk 3
Farmer Saint Posted 14 minutes ago Posted 14 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, egg said: What Farmer said... It's alright, he'll ignore what I asked as he always does.
Sir Ralph Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, egg said: It's got nowt to do with you mate. The simple point is that as an employee my Union membership did not impact how my employer saw me or treated me, and as an employer it makes no difference to how I see or treat my staff. I'm interested in your life experiences which makes you believe that union membership leads to employers thinking negatively of their staff - your opinions seem to be based on perception and attitude. So you want to know why I have my views but won’t explain your background. As a union member you have benefitted from their protection so of course you like them. I imagine you have worked in the public sector? Also I don’t want employment laws back in the Victorian times but I also don’t like the union protection of employees and parts of business that, for example, may be inefficient. Edited just now by Sir Ralph
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