The Burnham Years - Can the new(ish) broom sweep clean?

[egg]

3 minutes ago, iansums said:

Yes, but odd how it takes a ‘far right’ march before anything happens. Banning face covering should be implemented nationwide IMO.

If I was right leaning I'd probably say that too. 

Agreed re the second part. 

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Was there the same 'energy' from the Govt to ban face coverings at these protests?

 

I think the law was changed in January, long before the Pompey retards decided to cover their faces.

Edited Saturday at 09:45 by aintforever

[iansums]

Some bloke at the protest in Portsmouth wears a burqa and tells the police he’s gender fluid and identifies as a Muslim woman 😁😁

[Weston Super Saint]

4 minutes ago, iansums said:

Some bloke at the protest in Portsmouth wears a burqa and tells the police he’s gender fluid and identifies as a Muslim woman 😁😁

Does he have a bell?

Didn't he already try the gender thing when he was caught sniffing the seats in the ladies bogs?

Edited Saturday at 18:47 by Weston Super Saint

[Osvaldorama]

On 12/09/2026 at 09:27, whelk said:

Such a joy filled person. You sound so depressed I’m sure it’s a struggle to get out of bed in the morning. Hope Saints can cheer you up today

I am right. That’s the problem. You can throw insults etc, but I am right and the fruits of their labour are obvious. 

It is very easy to leave the country these days if you are wealthy. 

Capital gains tax, inheritance tax, the government treating your money like it is their bank account and lefties demonising your wealth are all incentives to go.

There is also an international market for wealthy people, with smart governments offering them incentives for residency.

A forward thinking government knows this and will incentivise the best to stay (and come back if they have left.)

No amount of whining will change these facts. A failure to recognise them will only make you poorer & the country worse.

 

[Farmer Saint]

15 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I am right. That’s the problem. You can throw insults etc, but I am right and the fruits of their labour are obvious. 

It is very easy to leave the country these days if you are wealthy. 

Capital gains tax, inheritance tax, the government treating your money like it is their bank account and lefties demonising your wealth are all incentives to go.

There is also an international market for wealthy people, with smart governments offering them incentives for residency.

A forward thinking government knows this and will incentivise the best to stay (and come back if they have left.)

No amount of whining will change these facts. A failure to recognise them will only make you poorer & the country worse.

 

Which forward thinking Governments are you talking about?

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Which forward thinking Governments are you talking about?

Canada's ?

[Osvaldorama]

11 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Which forward thinking Governments are you talking about?

 

Low IQ question 

Edited yesterday at 06:01 by Osvaldorama

[badgerx16]

Condolences to AB after the death of his father.

[Farmer Saint]

13 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

Low IQ question 

"ChatGPT, define irony".

😂😂😂

 

Edited yesterday at 19:35 by Farmer Saint

[whelk]

20 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

"ChatGPT, define irony".

😂😂😂

 

Do you think ChatGPT would be honest with him if he asked the question ‘what is my IQ?’

[Sir Ralph]

On 13/09/2026 at 18:54, Osvaldorama said:

I am right. That’s the problem. You can throw insults etc, but I am right and the fruits of their labour are obvious. 

It is very easy to leave the country these days if you are wealthy. 

Capital gains tax, inheritance tax, the government treating your money like it is their bank account and lefties demonising your wealth are all incentives to go.

There is also an international market for wealthy people, with smart governments offering them incentives for residency.

A forward thinking government knows this and will incentivise the best to stay (and come back if they have left.)

No amount of whining will change these facts. A failure to recognise them will only make you poorer & the country worse.

 

All fair points. Not of the responses to your post have actually successfully challenged what you said, in fact I don’t know what the objective of the the responses are. Multiple mocking responses don’t make what you’ve said incorrect because it’s all factually correct and most rationale people acknowledge and understand that. 
 

Edited 14 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

10 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

All fair points. Not of the responses to your post have actually successfully challenged what you said, in fact I don’t know what the objective of the the responses are. Multiple mocking responses don’t make what you’ve said incorrect because it’s all factually correct and most rationale people acknowledge and understand that. 
 

Nice edit 😉

[Osvaldorama]

11 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

All fair points. Not of the responses to your post have actually successfully challenged what you said, in fact I don’t know what the objective of the the responses are. Multiple mocking responses don’t make what you’ve said incorrect because it’s all factually correct and most rationale people acknowledge and understand that. 
 

Like I said, they’re people with low IQ that think they have a high IQ. They struggle with abstract thoughts and comprehending data/statistics to a level that allows them to accurately assess the country. Unfortunately it’s the same for a large proportion of voters in the UK. It’s what has allowed us to end up with the dire situation we find ourselves in:

 

[tdmickey3]

12 hours ago, whelk said:

Do you think ChatGPT would be honest with him if he asked the question ‘what is my IQ?’

It would answer with laughing emojis

[Osvaldorama]

45 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

It would answer with laughing emojis

Can you answer why this is bad:

”ONS - "Annual average regular earnings growth was 6.3% for the public sector and 2.9% for the private sector"”

If you can’t, then you need to read more books instead of throwing insults at people.

If you like I would be happy to tutor you in economics 

Edited 12 hours ago by Osvaldorama

[iansums]

State pension forecast to increase to £13,036 next April.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Like I said, they’re people with low IQ that think they have a high IQ. They struggle with abstract thoughts and comprehending data/statistics to a level that allows them to accurately assess the country. Unfortunately it’s the same for a large proportion of voters in the UK. It’s what has allowed us to end up with the dire situation we find ourselves in:

 

But is your IQ as high as Donnie's high IQ? 

[whelk]

55 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Can you answer why this is bad:

”ONS - "Annual average regular earnings growth was 6.3% for the public sector and 2.9% for the private sector"”

If you can’t, then you need to read more books instead of throwing insults at people.

If you like I would be happy to tutor you in economics 

Thick cunt

 

[whelk]

14 minutes ago, egg said:

But is your IQ as high as Donnie's high IQ? 

He is so obviously dense and, being generous, probably has a genuine delusion he is bright - so many of his ilk (gullible stupid fuckers) are now of the opinion they are clever. 
 

Edited 11 hours ago by whelk

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Can you answer why this is bad:

”ONS - "Annual average regular earnings growth was 6.3% for the public sector and 2.9% for the private sector"”

If you can’t, then you need to read more books instead of throwing insults at people.

If you like I would be happy to tutor you in economics 

Can you explain why it is bad?

[Osvaldorama]

51 minutes ago, whelk said:

He is so obviously dense and, being generous, probably has a genuine delusion he is bright - so many of his ilk (gullible stupid fuckers) are now of the opinion they are clever. 
 

Nice one, throw an insult then essentially copy my post. Very smart chap. 

[Osvaldorama]

55 minutes ago, whelk said:

Thick cunt

 

Cry harder 

[tdmickey3]

12 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Cry harder 

Very thick cunt

[iansums]

I had high hopes for this thread when I started it, sadly it’s become another slanging match like so many others. 😟

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, iansums said:

I had high hopes for this thread when I started it, sadly it’s become another slanging match like so many others. 😟

Mirroring the Americanisation of our society and politics as MAGA/big tech export their nonsense. 

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Like I said, they’re people with low IQ that think they have a high IQ. They struggle with abstract thoughts and comprehending data/statistics to a level that allows them to accurately assess the country. Unfortunately it’s the same for a large proportion of voters in the UK. It’s what has allowed us to end up with the dire situation we find ourselves in:

 

The graph shows that the state pension has increased by £37 in that time (risen from £203 per week to £241 per week).

Meanwhile the average salary for the UK has increased by £79 per week since 2024 (11% increase on £37430 which was the average UK salary in 2024).

I wonder if your high IQ can figure out which one of those abstract statistics equates to which group of people being "richer" in real terms?

[Willo of Whiteley]

I miss the days when all the thick, angry, racist or selfish people were all in the Tory party. At least it was easy to decipher a muppet when you seen them.

As soon as these factions spread of Reclaim/Reform/Retard all the dickheads spread out - now they just fight amongst themselves, and others.

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I miss the days when all the thick, angry, racist or selfish people were all in the Tory party. At least it was easy to decipher a muppet when you seen them.

As soon as these factions spread of Reclaim/Reform/Retard all the dickheads spread out - now they just fight amongst themselves, and others.

It’ll help at the 2029 GE though, the vote will split like a poorly made custard and the Greens imploding on the other side. So much beef between Farage/Lowe/Robinson and none of them would want to serve under Badenoch for obvious reasons. Plus why would the Tories invite them in when Farage’s stated aim to is to destroy the Tory party? Better to have 150-180 seats, carry on rebuilding as the official opposition and see the far right off as a boomer/ex-football thug tantrum. 

[whelk]

41 minutes ago, iansums said:

I had high hopes for this thread when I started it, sadly it’s become another slanging match like so many others. 😟

Naivety. Unless we are talking about travel it always goes same way. I have no problem with some on the right but the new types of head cases like Osvaldo, east stand Nic are so far gone into their cult there is no room for debate or discussion.

[whelk]

And quite telling that the notorious leftie Hypo even pities him. 

[iansums]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

Naivety. Unless we are talking about travel it always goes same way. I have no problem with some on the right but the new types of head cases like Osvaldo, east stand Nic are so far gone into their cult there is no room for debate or discussion.

Good idea, maybe I'll start a new travel thread.

[Osvaldorama]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

Naivety. Unless we are talking about travel it always goes same way. I have no problem with some on the right but the new types of head cases like Osvaldo, east stand Nic are so far gone into their cult there is no room for debate or discussion.

Coming from someone that instead of engaging in any debate, just wades occasionally in to call people a cunt 😂 

 

The hypocrisy and lack of self reflection of those with left leaning views will never cease to amaze me.

Although, actually, I guess you have to have a crazy, unbridled sense of narcissism to form your politics around stealing the wealth of productive people, so in a way that does makes sense. 

[Osvaldorama]

44 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

The graph shows that the state pension has increased by £37 in that time (risen from £203 per week to £241 per week).

Meanwhile the average salary for the UK has increased by £79 per week since 2024 (11% increase on £37430 which was the average UK salary in 2024).

I wonder if your high IQ can figure out which one of those abstract statistics equates to which group of people being "richer" in real terms?

Why on earth should pensioners, who are net receivers, deserve a pay rise over net contributors? 
 

All you’ve done there is prove that pensioners are stealing even more from working people 

[whelk]

8 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Coming from someone that instead of engaging in any debate, just wades occasionally in to call people a cunt 😂 

 

The hypocrisy and lack of self reflection of those with left leaning views will never cease to amaze me.

Although, actually, I guess you have to have a crazy, unbridled sense of narcissism to form your politics around stealing the wealth of productive people, so in a way that does makes sense. 

At the risk of sounding patronising there is nothing I can gain from engaging with such a blinkered halfwit. Bit like discussing history with the bloke outside the DOP who is convinced he is Napoleon.

You are a simpleton who cannot understand nuance. A caricature who thinks he smart arguing against the left - which is a cliche to you.

The fact that you see people who want a fairer society angers you speaks volumes. Throughout history there have been cunts like you lobbying against legislation for the less fortunate because you are just angry and greedy. Bet you hate free health and education

 

Edited 8 hours ago by whelk

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Why on earth should pensioners, who are net receivers, deserve a pay rise over net contributors? 
 

All you’ve done there is prove that pensioners are stealing even more from working people 

It's the aggressive words in your posts which irritate me as much as your views. "Stealing" is just ridiculous. If your point is that the triple lock has caused an unfair (and unaffordable) increase, then yes, it's a fair point, but the daft language is just daft. I'll buck the trend and say that you're brighter than that. 

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Why on earth should pensioners, who are net receivers, deserve a pay rise over net contributors? 
 

All you’ve done there is prove that pensioners are stealing even more from working people 

I bet you pay fuck all tax and people like me contribute more because of thieving bastards who think you deserve to keep every penny

[whelk]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

I'll buck the trend and say that you're brighter than that

😂

[egg]

Just now, whelk said:

😂

I'm feeling benevolent today Whelk. 

[Osvaldorama]

9 minutes ago, egg said:

It's the aggressive words in your posts which irritate me as much as your views. "Stealing" is just ridiculous. If your point is that the triple lock has caused an unfair (and unaffordable) increase, then yes, it's a fair point, but the daft language is just daft. I'll buck the trend and say that you're brighter than that. 

A stupid question deserves a stupid answer. 
 

He knows it’s a stupid question. He’s just attempting a “got ya” 

Yes, the triple lock is a destructive and terrible policy.

But also, comparing raw gross wages against the state pension is folly as it ignores tax deductions, living costs, accumulated wealth, assets, etc. 

Workers currently face some of the highest marginal tax rates in history, the most expensive housing and childcare costs and have a smaller % of the nations GDP than at most times in history. 

Plus it’s the market that sets the rate for wage growth, based on productivity and profit. For the state pension, the rate is set by how much the politicians can get away with stealing politically. 

If you don’t like the term stealing, then I apologise, but that’s what taxes are. 

[tdmickey3]

30 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Coming from someone that instead of engaging in any debate, just wades occasionally in to call people a cunt 😂 

 

The hypocrisy and lack of self reflection of those with left leaning views will never cease to amaze me.

Although, actually, I guess you have to have a crazy, unbridled sense of narcissism to form your politics around stealing the wealth of productive people, so in a way that does makes sense. 

You are a cunt, a massive one

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, iansums said:

Good idea, maybe I'll start a new travel thread.

The "Where should a broom go on holiday?" thread. 🙂

Lots of threads have peaks and troughs. This will be one of those. Which one, depends on what you find entertaining. 

[iansums]

2 hours ago, egg said:

It's the aggressive words in your posts which irritate me as much as your views. "Stealing" is just ridiculous. If your point is that the triple lock has caused an unfair (and unaffordable) increase, then yes, it's a fair point, but the daft language is just daft. I'll buck the trend and say that you're brighter than that. 

I have to agree with this post. You (Osvaldo) make a lot of good points IMO, but the language you use leaves you open to ridicule and consequently people will play the poster rather than the post. It goes both ways though, I see agressive language from those who disagree with anything right of centre. 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Why on earth should pensioners, who are net receivers, deserve a pay rise over net contributors? 
 

All you’ve done there is prove that pensioners are stealing even more from working people 

Lol.

Cost of living, inflation, price rises, etc, etc, etc.  For someone extoling the virtues of 'abstract' thought, you seem to be really struggling with thinking about the very fucking basics!

Should we just let the pensioners - who were previously net contributors - have less and less money in real terms just because they are old, despite the fact that they are still 'contributors' (maybe your abstract thinking couldn't understand that simple concept?)?

One day, assuming you make it that far, you will also be a pensioner.  I wonder what your views will be then?

[Weston Super Saint]

 

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

But also, comparing raw gross wages against the state pension is folly as it ignores tax deductions, living costs, accumulated wealth, assets, etc. 

 

 

I think @egg is going to have to do a reassesment of your intelligence!

Comparing 'raw gross wages against the state pension is folly' is the quote from the simpleton who posted a graph comparing 'raw gross wages against state pension'.

Do you even understand the things you post or did it just appear in your timeline?

 

7 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

 

[iansums]

5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Lol.

Cost of living, inflation, price rises, etc, etc, etc.  For someone extoling the virtues of 'abstract' thought, you seem to be really struggling with thinking about the very fucking basics!

Should we just let the pensioners - who were previously net contributors - have less and less money in real terms just because they are old, despite the fact that they are still 'contributors' (maybe your abstract thinking couldn't understand that simple concept?)?

One day, assuming you make it that far, you will also be a pensioner.  I wonder what your views will be then?

The triple lock though does have to go, that is almost universally agreed. The problem is that none of the political parties will admit this because it will lose them votes.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 minutes ago, iansums said:

The triple lock though does have to go, that is almost universally agreed. The problem is that none of the political parties will admit this because it will lose them votes.

Agreed.  But that is VERY different to stating 'pensioners don't deserve a pay rise'!

[Sheaf Saint]

I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious case of the Dunning Kruger effect than in this thread today. 

The total lack of self-awareness is truly something to behold.

Edited 5 hours ago by Sheaf Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Lol.

Cost of living, inflation, price rises, etc, etc, etc.  For someone extoling the virtues of 'abstract' thought, you seem to be really struggling with thinking about the very fucking basics!

Should we just let the pensioners - who were previously net contributors - have less and less money in real terms just because they are old, despite the fact that they are still 'contributors' (maybe your abstract thinking couldn't understand that simple concept?)?

One day, assuming you make it that far, you will also be a pensioner.  I wonder what your views will be then?

Thread Crossover!

Presumably,  not everyone crossing the channel we leave to drown, will actually drown. Some will make it, giving us quite a lot of dinghies...lots of apparently stealing, surplus to requirements old people, and a large body of water to push them all out into.

Just booking a seat for those that want impoverished old people, because one day it may be them. 🙂
 

[moonraker]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Why on earth should pensioners, who are net receivers, deserve a pay rise over net contributors? 
 

All you’ve done there is prove that pensioners are stealing even more from working people 

As a pensioner who does at least 3 days a week of voluntary work and planned well ahead for my retirement, paid taxes willingly to live in a fair society and continue to do so, I find your attitude grossly offensive and selfish.