trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Le Tissier has reservations whether the team can avoid the drop for a second year in a row. "Last season was bad enough, but at this point in time it's looking like we'll be quite fortunate to make a last day scenario again," said the former England striker http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7884265.stm This article doesn't particularly say anything new in general, but first I've heard Le Tiss start to write off our chances in print as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Really sad. I wish the great man would call for Lowe's head. That would really start the protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Was on BBC South Today last night...Franny Benali was also interviewed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Really sad. I wish the great man would call for Lowe's head. That would really start the protests. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Le Tissier has reservations whether the team can avoid the drop for a second year in a row. "Last season was bad enough, but at this point in time it's looking like we'll be quite fortunate to make a last day scenario again," said the former England striker http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7884265.stm This article doesn't particularly say anything new in general, but first I've heard Le Tiss start to write off our chances in print as it were. I think he pretty much did on Soccer Saturday not long ago. In fact, he had a pop at all the major shareholders for failing the club and chronic mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I love how he says we. Wouldn't it be fantastic if he was some sort of figurehead for the club like honourary life president or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I would think he has to try and retain as much impartiality as he can due to his position on the panel on Soccer Saturday, this applies to any interaction he has with the media, not just on match days in the studio. I'm sure he would have been more vocal had he not been in this position. My ideal scenario would be similar to the Sunderland/Quinn one. Le Tissier is the figure head of a consortium to take us over. That would instantly unite all fans in one fell swoop IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 He's obviously been watching us play then! Short term contract 'til the end of the season, Tiss?! Even now you'd cover more ground than DMG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I would think he has to try and retain as much impartiality as he can due to his position on the panel on Soccer Saturday, this applies to any interaction he has with the media, not just on match days in the studio. I'm sure he would have been more vocal had he not been in this position. My ideal scenario would be similar to the Sunderland/Quinn one. Le Tissier is the figure head of a consortium to take us over. That would instantly unite all fans in one fell swoop IMO. I would almost die through happiness if that were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I would think he has to try and retain as much impartiality as he can due to his position on the panel on Soccer Saturday, this applies to any interaction he has with the media, not just on match days in the studio. I'm sure he would have been more vocal had he not been in this position. My ideal scenario would be similar to the Sunderland/Quinn one. Le Tissier is the figure head of a consortium to take us over. That would instantly unite all fans in one fell swoop IMO. Indeed. Without wishing to blow one's own trumpet I did make this very same comparison with Quinn a while back. I know Le Tiss is beyond criticism in most people's eyes, but if he really cared for the club (which of course I don't doubt whatsoever in his heart) then why wouldn't he be prepared to sacrifice his TV contract in the short term to help spearhead a consortium, or even just a movement of some sort, to act as a catalyst for change? I'm sorry Matt, but observing our plight from the sidelines, whilst admirable in showing your ingrained love for the club, isn't actually helping achieve anything. Harsh but fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I know Le Tiss is beyond criticism in most people's eyes This is true. What he says goes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Indeed. Without wishing to blow one's own trumpet I did make this very same comparison with Quinn a while back. I know Le Tiss is beyond criticism in most people's eyes, but if he really cared for the club (which of course I don't doubt whatsoever in his heart) then why wouldn't he be prepared to sacrifice his TV contract in the short term to help spearhead a consortium, or even just a movement of some sort, to act as a catalyst for change? I'm sorry Matt, but observing our plight from the sidelines, whilst admirable in showing your ingrained love for the club, isn't actually helping achieve anything. Harsh but fair? Why should he? Have you given up your job to stand outside SMS and protest? Oh and he is definitely beyond criticism in my eyes. I would let him **** my Mrs and be proud of it afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 See your point and maybe you are playing devils advocate but to be fair to him he busted his balls to keep us up for over a decade and has done more than anyone put together to get this club where it was 5 years ago or so. Im my eye's the guy can say what he likes and cannot be touched!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 £250 k + for sitting in Sky studio for about 40 weeks a year, having a laugh with ex pro's having no pressure or working for RL? No brainer I would have thought for Matty. But if he came on board now as already said it would add 10,000 to the gate and get the team focused!!! The only other choice to do this would be Channon and he is one man who would never flog a dead horse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Indeed. Without wishing to blow one's own trumpet I did make this very same comparison with Quinn a while back. I know Le Tiss is beyond criticism in most people's eyes, but if he really cared for the club (which of course I don't doubt whatsoever in his heart) then why wouldn't he be prepared to sacrifice his TV contract in the short term to help spearhead a consortium, or even just a movement of some sort, to act as a catalyst for change? I'm sorry Matt, but observing our plight from the sidelines, whilst admirable in showing your ingrained love for the club, isn't actually helping achieve anything. Harsh but fair? Probably....(he says whilst diving for cover)... When you consider the 'supposed investors' that Wilde had lined up, who wouldn't invest unless Lowe was gone, you have to question them as well. Or perhaps they saw that Lowe was intent on coming back, they didn't trust Wilde and decided not to proceed having completed 'due diligence' on Wilde?? Let's face it, no-one is out there now interested unless we hit Admin. Then all hell will break loose. Paradoxically, this could then mean that we are stuck with Lowe and Wilde for more reasons - if they keep us out of admin, then they can keep the train set. If it goes to Admin, they could lose even more. It's getting like fvcking X-Files now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Why should he? Have you given up your job to stand outside SMS and protest? Erm, no. A like-for-like comparison might work better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Erm, no. A like-for-like comparison might work better though. It's the same principle. Matty has done more for SFC than any mere supporter so I simply don't agree that he has a duty to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 It's the same principle. Matty has done more for SFC than any mere supporter so I simply don't agree that he has a duty to do more. I wasn't meaning to imply he had a "duty", per se, to raise his head above the parapet, I was just mulling over why he chooses not too. Apologies if it came across otherwise. p.s. I see where you're coming from on the "principle" side of things re: comparison between my good self and Mr Le Tissier, but a more tangible comparison would be to compare Le Tiss getting more directly involved at SFC with me getting involved in saving a company that I had worked for for c.20 years. The last time I looked I hadn't been a long term employee of SFC. . Anyway, no worries, understand the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I love how he says we. Wouldn't it be fantastic if he was some sort of figurehead for the club like honourary life president or something. It's quite a small word. How does he say it exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 It's quite a small word. How does he say it exactly? Like a child going down a helter skelter, allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Like a child going down a helter skelter, allegedly. Then I understand the sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I think that if we go down, go into administration (but get through it legally and above board to avoid further penalty), get rid of the board, lose half the players and have to start over, MLT back at the club would give us the levels of support we'd need to begin rebuilding. I hope he'd consider it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I think that if we go down, go into administration (but get through it legally and above board to avoid further penalty), get rid of the board, lose half the players and have to start over, MLT back at the club would give us the levels of support we'd need to begin rebuilding. I hope he'd consider it seriously. I feel a petition coming on....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I'm looking forward to relegation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I'm looking forward to relegation now. We may as well make this happen early by all boycotting now and get him in asap. Kill two birds with one stone as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 So, who knows how to set up one of those online petition whatsits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I would think he has to try and retain as much impartiality as he can due to his position on the panel on Soccer Saturday, this applies to any interaction he has with the media, not just on match days in the studio. I'm sure he would have been more vocal had he not been in this position. My ideal scenario would be similar to the Sunderland/Quinn one. Le Tissier is the figure head of a consortium to take us over. That would instantly unite all fans in one fell swoop IMO. I am sure someone on here heard Matty on Radio Hampshire recently (Monday evening?) and it was obvious that he had talked to Lowe about our predicament. With Mark Dennis trying herd him onto the "hang Lowe bandwagon" he was having none of it. For those that did not hear it "the main reason we are in this position today is because of the excessive expenditure over the last two years". Also stating that Lowe was trying to sort out the financial issue to avoid administration and the only thing we can do as fans is to get behind the team. Surprised no one has mentioned this or given it prominence as with the Mary Corbett peice, but I would bet the content of the message just does not fit the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I am sure someone on here heard Matty on Radio Hampshire recently (Monday evening?) and it was obvious that he had talked to Lowe about our predicament. With Mark Dennis trying herd him onto the "hang Lowe bandwagon" he was having none of it. For those that did not hear it "the main reason we are in this position today is because of the excessive expenditure over the last two years". Also stating that Lowe was trying to sort out the financial issue to avoid administration and the only thing we can do as fans is to get behind the team. Surprised no one has mentioned this or given it prominence as with the Mary Corbett peice, but I would bet the content of the message just does not fit the agenda.Yeah heard that on the way to work, said RL was trying to source funds to stave off Admin. Also we cant do anything about the manager and we should get behind the team if we want to survive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Before you all go and sign MLT as our next manager - would it not be prudent to let St Robbie know so that he can include it in his 10 point survival plan...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 (edited) I am sure someone on here heard Matty on Radio Hampshire recently (Monday evening?) and it was obvious that he had talked to Lowe about our predicament. With Mark Dennis trying herd him onto the "hang Lowe bandwagon" he was having none of it. For those that did not hear it "the main reason we are in this position today is because of the excessive expenditure over the last two years". Also stating that Lowe was trying to sort out the financial issue to avoid administration and the only thing we can do as fans is to get behind the team. Surprised no one has mentioned this or given it prominence as with the Mary Corbett peice, but I would bet the content of the message just does not fit the agenda. The content of Le Tiss's "message" could fit the "agenda" though....for example, if someone was thinking of taking over, or becoming more hands-on, in a post Administration scenario, the 'clever' thing to be doing right now would be to appear as neutral and diplomatic as they could so that they didn't come with any baggage. Edited 12 February, 2009 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Once we get rid of Lowe and Slithery Wilde i'd love to see Le Tiss brought back in some capacity like club president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Before you all go and sign MLT as our next manager - would it not be prudent to let St Robbie know so that he can include it in his 10 point survival plan...??? Wouldn't that make it an 11 point plan though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Wouldn't that make it an 11 point plan though? Ohhhh, aaahhhhh, yeah - I guess you right. But I think that he was a bit stretched for points towards the end of the plan, and I think there was some replication in there, so I reckon we could probably edit it, just a little - throw the MLT point in - and hey presto we'll call it a 1 point plan...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Ohhhh, aaahhhhh, yeah - I guess you right. But I think that he was a bit stretched for points towards the end of the plan, and I think there was some replication in there, so I reckon we could probably edit it, just a little - throw the MLT point in - and hey presto we'll call it a 1 point plan...! What's the point in that? (rustle, rustle, coat, hat, gloves, thermal pants....duly fetched) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 MLT and Jimmy Case were on SSN earlier but I just missed what was said, anyone else see it? Although I work from home I really should pay more attention to the TV instead of working!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Once we get rid of Lowe and Slithery Wilde i'd love to see Le Tiss brought back in some capacity like club president. When Lowe finally does go it will be because he has found a buyer for his shares and has decided he has had enough, but if it makes you feel all gooey inside, pretend you caused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 £250 k + for sitting in Sky studio for about 40 weeks a year, having a laugh with ex pro's having no pressure or working for RL? No brainer I would have thought for Matty. But if he came on board now as already said it would add 10,000 to the gate and get the team focused!!! The only other choice to do this would be Channon and he is one man who would never flog a dead horse! having a laugh with ex pro's nadia? is that with or without baby oil? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I did see that some people had started a 'Matt Le Tissier for Southampton Manager' group on Facebook...... Would it work?? Probably not, such a decision would be too fan-friendly in Rupey's eyes - let's face it, if Matty did come in and we still got relegated, Lowe would love that...could pass the blame on again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Why should he? Have you given up your job to stand outside SMS and protest? Oh and he is definitely beyond criticism in my eyes. I would let him **** my Mrs and be proud of it afterwards. Whilst I hold LeGod in the very highest regard, If I caught him ****ging my Mrs i'd break his big nose, and kick him in his fat guts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ? Surely he recognises his own power to influence matters, but chooses not to.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Whilst I hold LeGod in the very highest regard, If I caught him ****ging my Mrs i'd break his big nose, and kick him in his fat guts!! Call yourself a fan?!! I'd let him sh@g my mum, missus, dog, myself....whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ? Surely he recognises his own power to influence matters, but chooses not to.. Exactly what's bugging me. Yes, we all know the money at Sky is good, but has he ever actually said "I would like to help out Saints directly but can't afford to lose this job"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I think we wil know in about 4 weeks time when we (together with Charlton) will be too far adrift to recover unless winning every game with a huge goal difference. As that time and before 26 March 2009 the plug will be pulled and Lowe and Co will be gone forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ? Surely he recognises his own power to influence matters, but chooses not to.. Got it. It just came to me. I think he must be a Lowe Luvvie. No? Okay, then maybe he, like many others that also do not love Lowe, realises that until someone comes along with wonga, no amount of stamping your feet and screaming will make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ?.. Spectator : one who watches a game..................mmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Why would he bother coming back for that? He had a similar role under Lowe before, but Sky offered him a far more enjoyable role. Don't see he'd come back unless it was manager or involved in a consortium. He has too much to offer to be wasted as a meet and greet figure. Maybe, it'd be nice to see him back one day though. It's the least SFC as a club owes him for being a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Spectator : one who watches a game..................mmmmm Don't really know what Alpine expects MLT to do really. He could rant and rave like Merrington or Armstrong but it wouldn't lead anywhere. He's just an ex-player, who may or may not have a few quid in the bank. (Probably far far less than you'd all imagine) What do you expect him to do about our current situation. He has no qualifications other than that he was an excellent and much loved player. What does Terry Paine "do" about our "situation" or Channon or Ron Davies or Jim Steele? They just get on with their lives and keep stuum about something they can't influence in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ? Surely he recognises his own power to influence matters, but chooses not to.. Probably for exactly the same reasons that Andy Gray declined the offer of becoming Evertons Manager some years ago. Sky offer secure job post (for life!) excellent working conditions, excellent remuneration, time to fit in other commitments (and golf!) and less stress. For me, every penny that Le Tiss recieved from our club - he earned. He remained loyal to us when better offers were on the table, he owes us nothing. I'm absolutely sure that he is as passionate about the club as any supporter, he did his bit on the pitch for us in many a dodgy season. Why some on here call for him to give up his job in order to come and bail us out, yet again, is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Can anyone explain why MLT has actually pretty much stood by as a passive spectator to the decline and failure of the club he professes to love so much ? Surely he recognises his own power to influence matters, but chooses not to.. Most of you who answered this post from me assumed I was referring to financial support or investment. Why ? I wasnt thinking that at all, especially as he is for me "old school" who didnt become a multi-millionarie during his playing days. I was thinking more that if he had made lost of noise, he maybe could have helped bring the curtain down on the Poortvillet era a few weeks' earlier.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 Most of you who answered this post from me assumed I was referring to financial support or investment. Why ? I wasnt thinking that at all, especially as he is for me "old school" who didnt become a multi-millionarie during his playing days. I was thinking more that if he had made lost of noise, he maybe could have helped bring the curtain down on the Poortvillet era a few weeks' earlier.. I don't think that his media role would allow him to run a one man crusade in order to try to bring about the downfall of a manager. Whatever next - '...he managed to get so and so out of Southampton, lets see if Matt will put out some negative press about .....' I understand what you are saying - in that you probably would like him to be a little more vocal towards our cause - but we have to understand that given the job he is in, he has to be professional and show a good degree of impartiality towards all teams. Mind you, if anybody is still thinking that he lacks passion for us, a quick reminder for you... enjoy..! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUt5CQPyWzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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