Mole Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 I'll be interested to see how season tickets are priced for League 1 as oposed to the Championship. If we don't pick up wins and are the gap increases to saftety over the next few weeks we are down and even if prices are slashed i can see a big drop in sales. When Lowe returned he had the effect of hammering Season ticket renewals andgiven his calamatous decisions that have put us in the mire this season i think his negative presence will drive more fans away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 I'm actually thinking of getting a ST again, first one after our first season in CCC. Three key factors - will Lowe still be at the club - price - and whether I have a job when its time to buy. Regarding Lowe. If he is at the club but fails to offer a creditable vision for the future the I will probably not buy. If he can offer a creditable vision for the future (and he failed this year) then I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 If Lowe & Wilde are gone, and prices are reasonable (c£345), I would get a season ticket for the CCC or League One next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 Why not just be real fans and buy a season ticket anyway?(directed at people not buying only because Lowe and Wilde are here, obviously I understand if it is a financial problem). It's people like that that will kill this club. After all, we support Southampton Football Club, not the anti-Rupert Lowe club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 I will go to every game I can but those two ****s are not getting my money up front. If they're gone then I will get a ST, whatever the division, like i have since the eighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 A serious question here. For the stay away's due to our Board - Would there be a price that would tempt you even if the same board was in charge ? Not having ever owned a ST ( long drive ) do ur tickets compete with other clubs ? I know a lot of people on here have bassically said this years tickets were not worth the football they have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 A serious question here. For the stay away's due to our Board - Would there be a price that would tempt you even if the same board was in charge ? Not having ever owned a ST ( long drive ) do ur tickets compete with other clubs ? I know a lot of people on here have bassically said this years tickets were not worth the football they have seen. No, they couldn't pay me to go whilst Lowe is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 A serious question here. For the stay away's due to our Board - Would there be a price that would tempt you even if the same board was in charge ? Not having ever owned a ST ( long drive ) do ur tickets compete with other clubs ? I know a lot of people on here have bassically said this years tickets were not worth the football they have seen. I stay away because of lowe. I have already turned down three free tickets this year (2 from a ST, 1 from the club itself) as a matter of principle. (p.s. I have seen over 750 Saints games including Goodison Park in 1974). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I will go to every game I can but those two ****s are not getting my money up front. If they're gone then I will get a ST, whatever the division, like i have since the eighties the two ******s will get more cash from you over the season ,because you will not get your earlybird discount:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 A serious question here. For the stay away's due to our Board - Would there be a price that would tempt you even if the same board was in charge ? Not having ever owned a ST ( long drive ) do ur tickets compete with other clubs ? I know a lot of people on here have bassically said this years tickets were not worth the football they have seen. I really don't think it's down to money and I don't there will be a "Oh go on then, if you insist" price that will get stay away fans to compormise their principles. I know that I'm paying more per game by not renewing my season ticket but I really do believe that, in my mind, they do not deserve my money all in one go and no amount of deals or cohersion will change that... Sad really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 (edited) I really don't think it's down to money and I don't there will be a "Oh go on then, if you insist" price that will get stay away fans to compormise their principles. I know that I'm paying more per game by not renewing my season ticket but I really do believe that, in my mind, they do not deserve my money all in one go and no amount of deals or cohersion will change that... Sad really... I appreciate the principle of your stance DW, and wont have a go about it. Its your choice and you dont ahve to justify it to anyone. BUt I would suggest that the decline that we will probably see whatever division we end up in, will not really be effected by the number of protesters with your principles. I think that wont be more than a 100 or so. I think the decline is more to do with the form, CCC football and the financial situation. - Given that you can get tickets when you want to, there is no 'pressure' to stump up a big chunck in advance, simply go when you can/want and get a decent seat. There is an advantage to the club getting the income guarranteed, as it helps with reducing the interest and charges on the overdraft over the course of the season, as well as helping with budgeting - thats a simple fact, so yes paying up front helps the club financially. My gripe is not with those whose genuine principles dictate their stance not to buy or even go, but to those who know that in reality its down to them simply not wanting to watch CCC or form form sides in this division, who use the 'protest' as an excuse, and I suggest there are plenty of those. (NB. If you simply dont like CCC football and dont see it as value for money, thats also fine by me, as spending your cash is your choice, no one elses. just wish folk owned up if thats teh cas rather than using Lowe as a convenient excuse) I did not renew last year after 10 successive years, simply because I thought I would have moved up North by now, so just pay on the door when I go, no other reason. Edited 9 March, 2009 by Frank's cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 Why not just be real fans and buy a season ticket anyway?(directed at people not buying only because Lowe and Wilde are here, obviously I understand if it is a financial problem). It's people like that that will kill this club. After all, we support Southampton Football Club, not the anti-Rupert Lowe club. I resent the suggestion that you can only be a real fan if you buy a ST regardless of who is running the club. I would counter that those who are prepared to do that, are also prepared to buy their STs regardless of how much they cost and regardless of the team or the manager too. Rather than calling those people real fans, I would counter by calling them sheep. And if there are sufficient numbers of people with enough principle to boycott a regime who have brought the club to its knees, surely it can easily be counter argued that it is the people who run the club that are killing it, not the fans. When Lowe and the Quisling are gone, I will renew my STs regardless of which division we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 the two ******s will get more cash from you over the season ,because you will not get your earlybird discount:D Not necessarily so. Because I did not renew, I benefited from not having laid out any money when I boycotted the last two home matches. I was away on business last Tuesday and will be in France next weekend too. As I have been able to get pretty close to sitting in our old ST seats by paying a day or two before the match, then there is little reason to buy a ST anyway. But as I said, I will renew my two when Lowe and the Quisling have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 (edited) I appreciate the principle of your stance DW' date=' and wont have a go about it. Its your choice and you dont ahve to justify it to anyone. BUt I would suggest that the decline that we will probably see whatever division we end up in, will not really be effected by the number of protesters with your principles. I think that wont be more than a 100 or so. I[b'] think the decline is more to do with the form, CCC football and the financial situation[/b]. - Given that you can get tickets when you want to, there is no 'pressure' to stump up a big chunck in advance, simply go when you can/want and get a decent seat. There is an advantage to the club getting the income guarranteed, as it helps with reducing the interest and charges on the overdraft over the course of the season, as well as helping with budgeting - thats a simple fact, so yes paying up front helps the club financially. My gripe is not with those whose genuine principles dictate their stance not to buy or even go, but to those who know that in reality its down to them simply not wanting to watch CCC or form form sides in this division, who use the 'protest' as an excuse, and I suggest there are plenty of those. (NB. If you simply dont like CCC football and dont see it as value for money, thats also fine by me, as spending your cash is your choice, no one elses. just wish folk owned up if thats teh cas rather than using Lowe as a convenient excuse) I did not renew last year after 10 successive years, simply because I thought I would have moved up North by now, so just pay on the door when I go, no other reason. I can see where you're coming from Frank but when have we ever been that great? In the Premiership we were pretty much dull mid table with four or five really good games and the odd upset against at least one of the big boys every season but when were we that attractive a proposition?? I'll admit to being a bit surprised that attendances have fallen as much as they have as those fans who did go weren't going because we were fantastic but because we're Saints, no more no less... Edited 9 March, 2009 by Daren W crap spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I can see wgere you're coming from Frank but when have we ever been that great? In the Premiership we were pretty much dull mid table with four or five really good games and the odd upset against at least one of the big boys every season but when were we that attractive a proposition?? I'll admit to being a bit surprised that attendances have fallen as much as they have as those fans who did go weren't going because we were fantastic but because we're Saints, no more no less... But Daren, as much as I hate to admit it, how many of our 'fans' filling the ground in the prem, came to see the oposition as much as saints - its the reason why despite the good run in 2003, we were still not at capacitythe followings season against teh likes of Bolton, or Boro, but could have sold an extra 10,000 when playng Man U.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 But Daren' date=' as much as I hate to admit it, how many of our 'fans' filling the ground in the prem, came to see the oposition as much as saints - its the reason why despite the good run in 2003, we were still not at capacitythe followings season against teh likes of Bolton, or Boro, but could have sold an extra 10,000 when playng Man U....[/quote'] But damn near capacity, we were surely (he says not accessing attendance records) close to 30,000 whilst in the Premiership and that's with good crowds for the likes of Boro and Boloton and you can't say they're glamour ties surely?? I think you're on a bit of a loser when saying the decline is down to the fairweather premiership fans as opposed to real decline in faith with the club and the board. To say we've lost about 100 odd fans due to the board is a bit disengenous. People are more principled than you'll give them credit for and ofr the last 4 years the way this club has been run has been farcical. People have fallen out of love with the club and it's not to do with Championship football or fairweather fans, more a slow painful death and more and more fans missing one game, then two games, then three games and then it becoming a habit to not go. They'll watch Championship football, they'll watch crap Premiership football but they won't be taken for mugs. The club is paying a high price for taking fans for granted, treating them like sheete and then expecting that good ole fashioned loyalty will ensure bums on seats. In life, you get what you deserve and this club, sorry this board, are getting exactly what they deserve... Sad, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I think the crowds are relative to the success on the pitch, nothing more, nothing less. Liverpool and Man Utd both have boards that huge sections of fans do not want, yet success on the pitch has maintained a full stadium. I dare say that if either club started losing the nthe boards would begin to be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 But damn near capacity, we were surely (he says not accessing attendance records) close to 30,000 whilst in the Premiership and that's with good crowds for the likes of Boro and Boloton and you can't say they're glamour ties surely?? I think you're on a bit of a loser when saying the decline is down to the fairweather premiership fans as opposed to real decline in faith with the club and the board. To say we've lost about 100 odd fans due to the board is a bit disengenous. People are more principled than you'll give them credit for and ofr the last 4 years the way this club has been run has been farcical. People have fallen out of love with the club and it's not to do with Championship football or fairweather fans, more a slow painful death and more and more fans missing one game, then two games, then three games and then it becoming a habit to not go. They'll watch Championship football, they'll watch crap Premiership football but they won't be taken for mugs. The club is paying a high price for taking fans for granted, treating them like sheete and then expecting that good ole fashioned loyalty will ensure bums on seats. In life, you get what you deserve and this club, sorry this board, are getting exactly what they deserve... Sad, isn't it? To be fair though, the biggest factors are probably the quality of the games and poor form - eg league position + the current economics. Sure a board doing more to improve the playing side will have an effect, but I still think that if we have success then who is in the boardroom becomes far less significant in terms of the reasons given for non attendance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 To be fair though' date=' the biggest factors are probably the quality of the games and poor form - eg league position + the current economics. Sure a board doing more to improve the playing side will have an effect, but I still think that if we have success then who is in the boardroom becomes far less significant in terms of the reasons given for non attendance?[/quote'] There are several factors affecting attendances as I see it. When we were a Premiership side, the stadium was pretty well full to capacity and when it dropped the odd thousand or two because it was Bolton or Coventry or what the board liked to call the bronze games, that had more to do with lower attendances in the corporate hospitality sections than in the main body of the stadium. I often noted some spaces to be had there in the heart of the Itchen when the rest seemed to be full. Inevitably there was a drop in attendance following relegation, but that was further exacerbated by the board's ridiculous policy of charging the same for a ST as if we were still in the Premiership, but attempting to console us with the fact that we had an extra 4 games for the money, regardless of the fact that none of the games that season was against even teams of the standard of those bronze teams we had watched the season before. Despite this pricing madness, many stayed faithful and attendances were reasonable for this division. Naturally there was an element who kept their STs anticipating that we might regian promotion right away and they could therefore keep their seats. When this didn't materialise, many reasoned that they could buy tickets match by match and still get seats in much the same area as before, but if they had other commitments on some match days, they wouldn't have paid good money not to watch the match. More recently, there has been the element of boycott added into the equation too. All of these factors have contributed to our current low attendances. As suggested, a run of good results will bring some back, especially those who thought that they were paying too much to watch the youth team lose every home match except one until recently. Others will return when Lowe and the Quisling go. Other than that, the only way to get more bums on seats, is to price the tickets at a level that is attractive. That is one area where the board have shown an almost total lack of imagination, failing to realise that a fuller stadium not only generates ancilliary income from the concourse and the shop, but also makes for a better matchday atmosphere and special offers for the youngsters cements the attendance of the fans of the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I see that at a very good balanced opinion Wes Tender. Be interesting to see the attendance for tomorrow bearing in mind the season ticket holders were able to purchase additional tickets at £5. Then see what attendance for the Charlton game at £15 per adult. If it follows the Notts Forest trend it should give the club an idea of what is needed going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I cant see the club surviving at all in League 1 if Lowe and Wilde are still in control. Ticket sales will take a hit because of the drop in league, also because of the recession. A third hit because of the unpopularity of the people in charge will be too much. the lower down the leagues you go the more clubs rely on the goodwill factor of the fans, my goodwill towards Lowe evaporated ages ago. He wont get a ST out of me whatever division we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I will definitely get a season ticket for next season, even if we go down to league 1! But I seriously despise Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I have mentioned on here many times that I will not be renewing my ST via March Madness as a protest against Lowe's mismanagement, but then the club have not offered it so we'll see. I am certain that I will not renew if we look likely to go down - to do so would be effectively supporting Lowe and Wilde, sanctioning their continued positions in the face of abject failure. A bit like paying bankers massive retirement pensions for failure. I might decide to buy a seat when I feel the need, but I think I might find myself not missing it TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 I will be renewing my season ticket, but out of general annoyance I will probably sign the bottom "disgruntled, Southampton". That'll learn 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 As everyone knows, I have an inheritance which means I don't have to work. As such I have a massive disposable income. Therefore, for every season ticket that we sell under that of last year's total sales, I will personally hand over the price of said season tickets to SFC thus negating any losses we make on a protest. It is such philanthropic acts that make me the popular forum figure that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndy1970 Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 Why not just be real fans and buy a season ticket anyway?(directed at people not buying only because Lowe and Wilde are here, obviously I understand if it is a financial problem). It's people like that that will kill this club. After all, we support Southampton Football Club, not the anti-Rupert Lowe club. No its people who pander to this pathetic notion of Im a true fan I have a season ticket. Many people have numerous reasons about not having season tickets. I.e. Jobs, financial circumstances. I had a season ticket for 30 years prior to saying enough is enough. So does that say Im no longer a fan? To accuse someone of staying away of killing our club is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But to look at it another way, are you not killing the club also by supporting this current board of directors by buying a season ticket. The myth of going along to support the players is a dead one. How many of those players will stick around when they get a better offer? I bet you there would not be many. At the moment they are being paid a wage and the current board pay their wages via our gate money. Without that they will go to their next paymaster and play there. Thats where their loyalty ends with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 What is the incentive for anybody to buy a season ticket when the club flogs off half the stadium seats at £5 a time near match-days? Might as well play it by ear and pay on the day. You should gamble on getting a whole season in a decent seat for £115 instead of the usual £350 or more. If you put money up front and we go into administration and/or receivership, your ST money will vanish into that great black hole of creditors assets, meaning as a very minor creditor you'll end up with absolutely effing Zilch! If SFC subsequently get resurrected and you want to watch them again then you'll have to pay again.. So the moral of this little story, things being as they are in these currently straightened economic times and Saint's paddleless exploration of the upper reaches of Sh*te Creek is... Only a twit would buy a season ticket for next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 What is the incentive for anybody to buy a season ticket when the club flogs off half the stadium seats at £5 a time near match-days? Might as well play it by ear and pay on the day. You should gamble on getting a whole season in a decent seat for £115 instead of the usual £350 or more. If you put money up front and we go into administration and/or receivership, your ST money will vanish into that great black hole of creditors assets, meaning as a very minor creditor you'll end up with absolutely effing Zilch! If SFC subsequently get resurrected and you want to watch them again then you'll have to pay again.. So the moral of this little story, things being as they are in these currently straightened economic times and Saint's paddleless exploration of the upper reaches of Sh*te Creek is... Only a twit would buy a season ticket for next season! Hate to say this Charlie, but that is a very highly unlikely scenario - clubs go into administration - few actually go out of business. The likelihood of us going into administration, ceasing to exist and then reincarnating ourselves and season tickets then being resold is errrr - light years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 (edited) Giving up my boycott for the game tomorrow night. The way I see it, for a fiver Rupert is probably not making any money out of me. If he was gone, I would pay the normal asking price no problems. Happy days. (I have the principles of a sewer rat). Edited 9 March, 2009 by Wade Garrett Swearing filter wouldn't allow ****roach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 9 March, 2009 Share Posted 9 March, 2009 But damn near capacity, we were surely (he says not accessing attendance records) close to 30,000 whilst in the Premiership and that's with good crowds for the likes of Boro and Boloton and you can't say they're glamour ties surely?? I think you're on a bit of a loser when saying the decline is down to the fairweather premiership fans as opposed to real decline in faith with the club and the board. To say we've lost about 100 odd fans due to the board is a bit disengenous. People are more principled than you'll give them credit for and ofr the last 4 years the way this club has been run has been farcical. People have fallen out of love with the club and it's not to do with Championship football or fairweather fans, more a slow painful death and more and more fans missing one game, then two games, then three games and then it becoming a habit to not go. They'll watch Championship football, they'll watch crap Premiership football but they won't be taken for mugs. The club is paying a high price for taking fans for granted, treating them like sheete and then expecting that good ole fashioned loyalty will ensure bums on seats. In life, you get what you deserve and this club, sorry this board, are getting exactly what they deserve... Sad, isn't it? Despite some of what you say being true, it is a FACT that most clubs suffer approx 25% fall in gates on relegation from the PL. Ours held up at around this level, perhaps a little better, for a season. All the other factors you mention have helped the susequent decline. There are just a lot of people out there who will pay £30 to watch PL football. Me, I go to watch the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 Cheers for your answers guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 I am using the current regime as an excuse not to renew. For real there are many reasons I won't renew, work commitments meaning I have to miss some games anyway, family and the fact I am going to play Sunday football next year. I will do a few of the bigger home games, more away games and sack the season ticket. Super fan I am not. Having said that, a change of ownership may persuade me to renew, and probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 would a drop in season ticket sales be a protest though..? you only have to look around this league to see how poor attendances are at times..even in the prem some games have pish poor gates. someo f the gates in league 1 are laughable.. so why would it be any different for us..? add the credit crunch etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 What is the incentive for anybody to buy a season ticket when the club flogs off half the stadium seats at £5 a time near match-days? Might as well play it by ear and pay on the day. You should gamble on getting a whole season in a decent seat for £115 instead of the usual £350 or more. If you put money up front and we go into administration and/or receivership, your ST money will vanish into that great black hole of creditors assets, meaning as a very minor creditor you'll end up with absolutely effing Zilch! If SFC subsequently get resurrected and you want to watch them again then you'll have to pay again.. So the moral of this little story, things being as they are in these currently straightened economic times and Saint's paddleless exploration of the upper reaches of Sh*te Creek is... Only a twit would buy a season ticket for next season! because over the course of a whole season..you would STILL save money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 because over the course of a whole season..you would STILL save money I don't know the Maths, but I am pretty sure that there is no incentive now for people to renew, certainly not for any families with all the 'kids for a quid' promotions and Tyro League tickets etc. Not to forget that the vast majority miss at least one game a season on their season ticket. There is no value in a ST anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 10 March, 2009 I used to be a season ticket holder and i'd miss the odd game due to other comitments. The ST was nevr cost effective for me and i'd suggest it's the same for most people. I owned it because you had to have a ST to guarentee getting in when we got sellouts. Now that getting a ticket isn't an issue and you can basically sit where you like anyway i don't see any incentive to layout several hundred quid in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 I used to be a season ticket holder and i'd miss the odd game due to other comitments. The ST was nevr cost effective for me and i'd suggest it's the same for most people. I owned it because you had to have a ST to guarentee getting in when we got sellouts. Now that getting a ticket isn't an issue and you can basically sit where you like anyway i don't see any incentive to layout several hundred quid in advance. That's pretty much how I feel. Unfortunately (for the club anyway) not having a current ST means that it's easy to get side tracked and find better things to do with my time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 We have two season tickets amd bassically said this years tickets were not worth the football that we have seen. I dont think l would have brought this season tickets if Lord Lowe (the Pr-ck) would have been there when we renewed in the March madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 Norwich seem to to all right on ST sales - 16939 so far http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10355~1578329,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 10 March, 2009 Norwich seem to to all right on ST sales - 16939 so far http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10355~1578329,00.html Norwich have an ideally sized stadium tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 I have taken a straw poll with the people around me in the Kingsland and generally all said they will not buy a ST next year if Lowe and the rest of his cronies are around. Very few said they would not buy just because we were in Div 1 as long as there was a way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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