OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 So he left for a better contract which wasnt forthcoming from Askham et all big deal !! Following his success he was worth every penny and years later we had the same problem with Alan Ball going to Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 So he left for a better contract which wasnt forthcoming from Askham et all big deal !! Following his success he was worth every penny and years later we had the same problem with Alan Ball going to Man City. That is your opinion and fine.He still walked out on us and I felt let down. Was Askham the chairman at that time? I thought it would have been Woodford, but I could be wrong. If it was Askham shows what a terrible effect he has had on the club in all his time here.He is a Teflon chairman that man. I still think a stand or suite should be named after LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. We never hear half of the stories behind the stories, and both McMenemy and Hoddle took a lot of stick from some quarters when they left, but can you blame anyone for wanting to better themselves ? - I think not ! Keegan said in a video I saw, that he left because (primarily) Saints didn't have the money to buy more and give us an EVEN better side, and he wanted to be in a team that could win "something ", and (then) it just never looked like we would. I don't know what magic Lawrie used to get all those England players together but I'm half convinced that he got the same response in 1984 when he asked the Board for more funds to get one of two more stars. Sunderland on the other hand had always been known as the Bank of England Club gave him an offer he couldn't refuse ( and a Merc, too ) if I recall - I think Ballie's move to(Francis Lee's) Man City was a similar case. People who are winners - want to win. There's no honour for being 2nd place in the Prem. - Ask Ferguson or Benitez or Hiddink. Sadly - for both GH and LM they forgot the oldest football adage : NEVER GO BACK ! ¨. .their respective moves were a disaster for both of them. Looking back over the last 50 years (as a fan) I know that Lawrie provided the best years that SFC has ever seen . He needs some sort of recognition.....and I agree with your other comments (nickh.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 (edited) i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. We never hear half of the stories behind the stories, and both McMenemy and Hoddle took a lot of stick from some quarters when they left, but can you blame anyone for wanting to better themselves ? - I think not ! Keegan said in a video I saw, that he left because (primarily) Saints didn't have the money to buy more and give us an EVEN better side, and he wanted to be in a team that could win "something ", and (then) it just never looked like we would. I don't know what magic Lawrie used to get all those England players together but I'm half convinced that he got the same response in 1984 when he asked the Board for more funds to get one of two more stars. Sunderland on the other hand had always been known as the Bank of England Club made him an offer he couldn't refuse ( and a Merc, too ) if I recall - I think Ballie's move to (Francis Lee's) Man City was a similar case. People who are winners - want to win. There's no honour for being 2nd place in the Prem. - Ask Ferguson or Benitez or Hiddink. Sadly - for both GH and LM they forgot the oldest football adage : NEVER GO BACK ! ¨ ..their respective moves were a disaster for both of them. Looking back over the last 50 years (as a fan) I know that Lawrie provided the best years that SFC has ever seen . He needs some sort of recognition......and I agree with your other comments (nickh.) SORRY ! I see I've duplicated my comments.. Edited 2 May, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 That is your opinion and fine.He still walked out on us and I felt let down. Was Askham the chairman at that time? I thought it would have been Woodford, but I could be wrong. If it was Askham shows what a terrible effect he has had on the club in all his time here.He is a Teflon chairman that man. I still think a stand or suite should be named after LM. It was Woodford, Askham was on the Board but not Chairman. Hopefully the new owners will be "customer friendly" and understand something of the history of SFC and as a charm offesive to win the missing fans back this could well be one of the actions they could take. IMHO all four stands should be named after those who have had the greatest positive impact on the club so, yeah, one stand named after LM and the three others after ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 I'm well up for naming a stand after Mr mcMenemy. It'd annoy Rupert Lowe so for that reason alone we should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Here's a suggestion...Name the Main stand after Ted Bates, and the other 3 after Terry Paine, Mick Channon, and MLT. We could then name the ground afer Lawrie and call it "The Big Mac Stadium". There might even be a potential sponsorship involved with that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Totally agree. Whatever the story was behind him going to Sunderland, he does deserve recognition for the Cup win, and establishing us as a top flight club that went on for 27 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Lawrie turned down plenty of offers during his time at Southampton. Sunderland were his home town Club and somewhat of a sleeping giant. To critise the guy for doing what 99% of Football Managers have always done is strange. We'll have Aberdeen fans posting how disloyal Fergie was all those years ago next . Why can't people just rejoice and count their luckey stars that had Lawrie for so long and thank the man for the unbelieveable times he gave us. It seems that the people who supported Rupert the longest, are the first to start running him down. Forget a suite, he should have a stand named after him.At any other Club this would be a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. I would not argue with that, but the bloke comes with so much negative along with being our best manager in history. I don't know of anyone who had to work with him subsequently that only viewed him as a nightmare, whether ex player or what. It has never been about Saints, it has always been about Lawrie, the true Saint bit never comes into the picture. A lot of the negative aspect which has permeated through the club over the last 10 years, in my opinion comes from this source. Give him his recognition for everything good he has done for us, then send him off into the sunset so we can enjoy what's left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Lawrie turned down plenty of offers during his time at Southampton. Sunderland were his home town Club and somewhat of a sleeping giant. To critise the guy for doing what 99% of Football Managers have always done is strange. We'll have Aberdeen fans posting how disloyal Fergie was all those years ago next . Why can't people just rejoice and count their luckey stars that had Lawrie for so long and thank the man for the unbelieveable times he gave us. It seems that the people who supported Rupert the longest, are the first to start running him down. Forget a suite, he should have a stand named after him.At any other Club this would be a given. I dont know whether other clubs have stands named after managers and players but cricket grounds do especially Lords with The Compton Edrich and Warner stands Ted Bates Terry Paine MLT Mick Channon I would have thought were worthy too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Make your F*ck*ng mind up...in one post....Love him/Hate him/Appreciate him/Recognize him. Why start this thread, you have an issue with him, half your posts in the last two years have slated him, the other half were love letters about your hero Stupert. So please enlighten us nick....what is it you seek with this thread???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 I dont know whether other clubs have stands named after managers and players but cricket grounds do especially Lords with The Compton Edrich and Warner stands Ted Bates Terry Paine MLT Mick Channon I would have thought were worthy tootrouble is there are many players who you could name stands after. What about Ron Davies and my fathers hero Charlie wayman? LM gave us the best footballing days and he should be recognised in that capacity IMO If the new owners (it any) we shoudl also campaign for a proper Saints museum not the half baked nothing happened before RL theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Make your F*ck*ng mind up...in one post....Love him/Hate him/Appreciate him/Recognize him. Why start this thread, you have an issue with him, half your posts in the last two years have slated him, the other half were love letters about your hero Stupert. So please enlighten us nick....what is it you seek with this thread????can you read and digest what I have said? or you thicker than Mr Thick on a dim day. Whatever my thoughts on LM !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Ted Bates Terry Paine MLT Mick Channon I would have thought were worthy too Well Mick went to Man C and leaving the Club. In some peoples eyes is a no no. I maybe wrong there, because it was proberly alright for Mick, but not for Lawrie (as Lowe hasn't had a bust up with Mick). Personally, I think we we should play at the Ted Bates St Marys Stadium, in front of the Le Tiss, Mac,Tp and MC stand's, but i'm just an old softie at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Insults!!!...this early in the day. When you start your post with 'I believe', then the understanding is that those are your thoughts......lol, try again as the clouds seem to be over your house, not mine. Anyway, instead of insults, answer the question, where do you really stand on theis Great Saints Manager........or McMoneymy as you call him!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Well Mick went to Man C and leaving the Club. In some peoples eyes is a no no. I maybe wrong there, because it was proberly alright for Mick, but not for Lawrie (as Lowe hasn't had a bust up with Mick). Personally, I think we we should play at the Ted Bates St Marys Stadium, in front of the Le Tiss, Mac,Tp and MC stand's, but i'm just an old softie at heart. He also played for Skatesville...........but he is IMHO, a Southampton great, and I dare anyone to run him down... nick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiansaint Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 There should indeed be some form of recognition for great Saints, like there's the Shankly Gates at Anfield or the Matt Busby Ave near Old Trafford. I never understood why fans never had any say (either on the then S4F or anywhere else as far as I know) on this matter. Ted Bates has got a statue as "Mr. Southampton", why not honour others who graced The Dell or SMS (though "gracing SMS", if we consider Saints' downfall ever since they moved in might not be an appropriate wording). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Good idea Nick but are we sure Mr McMenemy hasn't got copyright over the use of his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Insults!!!...this early in the day. When you start your post with 'I believe', then the understanding is that those are your thoughts......lol, try again as the clouds seem to be over your house, not mine. Anyway, instead of insults, answer the question, where do you really stand on theis Great Saints Manager........or McMoneymy as you call him!!!! Whatever my thoughts on LM, i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Is that easier for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Whatever my thoughts on LM, i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Is that easier for you? When Mick left for Man C was that a "cut off" for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 He also played for Skatesville...........but he is IMHO, a Southampton great, and I dare anyone to run him down... nick?? When i was younger and dewey eyed about Saints ANY player who left us was a traitor. Nowadays I have become numb to star/hero's leaving to better pastures and can accept that and realise they do it for betterment. This thread was not aimed to be about LM qualities since he left but my wish that although I dont admire his later actions he should rightfully get awarded for his achievements when he was our manager. If our club is ever to recover fans like myself who hold grudges or negative thoughts against such people should be put aside so we can move on.I am prepared to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 That is your opinion and fine.He still walked out on us and I felt let down. Was Askham the chairman at that time? I thought it would have been Woodford, but I could be wrong. If it was Askham shows what a terrible effect he has had on the club in all his time here.He is a Teflon chairman that man. I still think a stand or suite should be named after LM. But to be fair Nick, he was with us for 12 years! How many managers stay that long? I appreciate it was a different era, a different mentality but 12 years is a heckva long time... But rather than have a few misguided numpties slagging him off, it's refreshing to see someone, who despite the fact he disagrees with the man, can acknowledge his contribution to Saints lore... Good on you Nick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 When Mick left for Man C was that a "cut off" for you? When he left for Man city yes he was no longer a Saints player.When he returned and playing for Man city he got a fair amount of stick from all sections of the ground..When he returned as a player he was adored again. It also is how they conduct themselves after they leave of course,would we view Phillips the same way as Crouchie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 That is your opinion and fine.He still walked out on us and I felt let down. Was Askham the chairman at that time? I thought it would have been Woodford, but I could be wrong. If it was Askham shows what a terrible effect he has had on the club in all his time here.He is a Teflon chairman that man. I still think a stand or suite should be named after LM. Dont you think all this is repetitive rubbish with no foundation ? Many players 'have walked out on us' and life goes on. He hardly did a Hoddle who literally did walk out on us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 But to be fair Nick, he was with us for 12 years! How many managers stay that long? I appreciate it was a different era, a different mentality but 12 years is a heckva long time... But rather than have a few misguided numpties slagging him off, it's refreshing to see someone, who despite the fact he disagrees with the man, can acknowledge his contribution to Saints lore... Good on you Nick...Daren, I agree LM was a magnificent manager and perhaps as he had attained such heights for us, him leaving cut me so much to the quick I turned bitter about him. As I say i didnt wish this to become a witch hunt either way by starting this thread. He deserves recognition for his achievements when he was here as a manager.I for 1 would welcome the event if it happened.It wouldnt change my mind due to some actions later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Dont you think all this is repetitive rubbish with no foundation ? Many players 'have walked out on us' and life goes on. He hardly did a Hoddle who literally did walk out on us ! o you not think that LM when he left was not dissimilar to when Gh left. We were left rudderless after our hopes had been so high for the future. Alan Ball walked out and then said some terrible things that really upset the fans who adored him.Those things stick, you may be happy to move on, but at that place and time it left scars that I have trouble forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Can we have three stands named after Bates, MLT and Paine and have the Northam knocked down and replaced by a steam train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Leeds tried prising Lawrie away from us when they were a top 5 club in 79, promising him mych more money and a huge transfer budget. He stayed out of loyalty, i don't begrudge him his sunderland move one bit. I saints at that time showed more ambition maybe he would have stayed in 85 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopper Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Just to be fair, I think we should recognise Rupert`s contribution to the club by naming the Gents toilet in the Itchen concourse after him - it would certainly encourage me to `go` more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Just to be fair, I think we should recognise Rupert`s contribution to the club by naming the Gents toilet in the Itchen concourse after him - it would certainly encourage me to `go` more often. LOL - If it isn't - it will be! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 I think only true saints should be given statues etc. When I say true I mean never left (especially if they could have) SFC, that is what makes the difference for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 LM - Legend in rhe clubs history He will have his chance now to have something named after him as those board members that knew about him being a thieving **** won't be there to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Just to be fair, I think we should recognise Rupert`s contribution to the club by naming the Gents toilet in the Itchen concourse after him - it would certainly encourage me to `go` more often. Or to encourage people to aim in the urinals a tranfer of Ruperts face would stop any spillage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 o you not think that LM when he left was not dissimilar to when Gh left. We were left rudderless after our hopes had been so high for the future. Personally I would say it was nothing like Hoddle for a number of reasons. McMenemy had been here 12 years or so and given us good service He had turned down a number of other offers (Leeds, Man Utd, Newcastle), He had been successful with us, He left in the close season, as opposed to leaving us high and dry, I don't remember then manner of him leaving being underhand, sly or deceitful. Even in those "olden days", 12 years as a manager was a decent stint. And turning down quite a few lucrative and more tempting offers showed quite a degree of loyalty to us. I can understand why people might be bitter and resentful at Eyal Berkovic, or maybe even Redknapp or Hoddle, but struggle to see why we should get all bitter over someone who gave us 12 decent years, success and who also turned down a number of lucrative offers in that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Personally I would say it was nothing like Hoddle for a number of reasons. McMenemy had been here 12 years or so and given us good service He had turned down a number of other offers (Leeds, Man Utd, Newcastle), He had been successful with us, He left in the close season, as opposed to leaving us high and dry, I don't remember then manner of him leaving being underhand, sly or deceitful. Even in those "olden days", 12 years as a manager was a decent stint. And turning down quite a few lucrative and more tempting offers showed quite a degree of loyalty to us. I can understand why people might be bitter and resentful at Eyal Berkovic, or maybe even Redknapp or Hoddle, but struggle to see why we should get all bitter over someone who gave us 12 decent years, success and who also turned down a number of lucrative offers in that period.We are all different and some forgive others can't.Perhaps the board of directors were at fault for mot providing the funds he wanted or the players. At the time I felt very upset and those scars have not healed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 trouble is there are many players who you could name stands after. What about Ron Davies and my fathers hero Charlie wayman? LM gave us the best footballing days and he should be recognised in that capacity IMO If the new owners (it any) we shoudl also campaign for a proper Saints museum not the half baked nothing happened before RL theme. Well cricket clubs manage it OK as I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Whatever my thoughts on LM, i believe a stand or suite should be named after him, in honour of his achievements pre 1985. Personally I think the day he left for Sunderland was a cut off for me to really adore him as a true Saint. That still does not stop me from appreciating those wonderful days when he was pulling for us and providing us with a club that was thrilling. He deserves that recognition whatever his faults after that time. Is that easier for you? Lol...Dropping the 'I believe', doesn't really alter your post. I note the lack of apology, that's OK nick, I can understand your frustration. A thread by you, on a man you despise, and you dress it up how?????........methinks this was another attempt by you to stir the pot a bit IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 I think only true saints should be given statues etc. When I say true I mean never left (especially if they could have) SFC, that is what makes the difference for me. We wouldn't have many statues then...............Sir Alf played for us, do we despise him because he left???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Lol...Dropping the 'I believe', doesn't really alter your post. I note the lack of apology, that's OK nick, I can understand your frustration. A thread by you, on a man you despise, and you dress it up how?????........methinks this was another attempt by you to stir the pot a bit IMHO of course. Where have I dropped the I believe?? You are so wrapped up in conspiracy theories you got your knickers in a twist. You cant understand the concept that somebody can see faults but also understand the needs to reward the good things done. I dislike the later things that LM did. I want the club to move forward withput the nonsense of past personalities but as you only are a 1 way street you wouldnt understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Sir Alf came from the blue side of our beautiful county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 (edited) Sir Alf came from the blue side of our beautiful county. Are you sure I suppose he could have been in the Services during the war 1920 Born Dagenham, Essex, 22 January. 1946 Made first-team debut for Southampton. 1949 Won first of 32 England caps. Moved to Tottenham. 1950-51 Played in Spurs team that won Second Division and First Division in consecutive years. 1955 Retired as player from professional football. Appointed manager of Ipswich. 1960-61 Led Ipswich to Second Division and First Division titles in successive years. 1963 Appointed England manager. 1966 Led England to dramatic 4-2 World Cup final victory over West Germany at Wembley. Edited 2 May, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Ted Bates Avenue leading to his statue and St Mary's stadium is fine in my book. Seeing as that gives a hint of remembrance to our beginnings. Lawrie Mac stand, Terry Paine stand, Le Tissier stand are all good shouts. For some of the really mature on here Charlie Wayman could have been the biggest of all. We all know the story 8 points clear and he gets injured etc. How many know that in the game against spurs in which he got injured he played on. Playing on with a torn thigh muscle and making it worse was not enough because he even went on and scored on one leg. Nuff said. Time to be shot down now I guess. But there are more names available and if we can't find one suitable we leave a stand till we do. DMG in 12 plus years perhaps.(tongue in cheek) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Ted Bates Avenue leading to his statue and St Mary's stadium is fine in my book. Seeing as that gives a hint of remembrance to our beginnings. Lawrie Mac stand, Terry Paine stand, Le Tissier stand are all good shouts. For some of the really mature on here Charlie Wayman could have been the biggest of all. We all know the story 8 points clear and he gets injured etc. How many know that in the game against spurs in which he got injured he played on. Playing on with a torn thigh muscle and making it worse was not enough because he even went on and scored on one leg. Nuff said. Time to be shot down now I guess. But there are more names available and if we can't find one suitable we leave a stand till we do. DMG in 12 plus years perhaps.(tongue in cheek) Yes that was before substitutes injured players often stayed on mostly on the wing in order to stop the full back going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 John B he played for Pompey 1942 before joining us. Ramsey was born in Dagenham, Essex. Having been a gifted amateur as a pupil and as a player for his army regiment, he played for Portsmouth in the London War League in 1942 before moving to Southampton from 1943 to 1949 taken from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Ted Bates Avenue leading to his statue and St Mary's stadium is fine in my book. Seeing as that gives a hint of remembrance to our beginnings. Lawrie Mac stand, Terry Paine stand, Le Tissier stand are all good shouts. For some of the really mature on here Charlie Wayman could have been the biggest of all. We all know the story 8 points clear and he gets injured etc. How many know that in the game against spurs in which he got injured he played on. Playing on with a torn thigh muscle and making it worse was not enough because he even went on and scored on one leg. Nuff said. Time to be shot down now I guess. But there are more names available and if we can't find one suitable we leave a stand till we do. DMG in 12 plus years perhaps.(tongue in cheek) Bobby Stokes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Taken from another forum Early second half Wayman pulls a thigh muscle but carries on. A Bates shot hits bot posts, drops on the line and is cleared. 82min Bates draws most of the Tottenham defence, slips the ball to Wayman, Wayman shoots with his injured left leg, Ditchburn parries it, the ball goes back to Wayman who scores with his right foot. 0-1 Wayman had to be carried from the pitch and did not play again all season. The defence, especially Wilkins, was given credit for a famous victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Bobby was a stalwart for us and would have played a lot more in a weaker team. Then there is the 83rd minute goal for which he will always be remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 2 May, 2009 Share Posted 2 May, 2009 Why is it the Lowe supporters are the one's who run Lawrie down. Are they indoctrinated into some sort of Lowe cult? Brainwashed into following their master's spin. Personally if Lawrie hadn't fallen out with Lowe, I dont beleive for one minute that anyone would be questioning his honesty, competance or record at the Club. Take the Chris Mac stuff with Pearson and the expenses for the Osman night. No matter how hard Lowe and his foot soliders try most Saints fans are grateful to Lawrie and proud of the teams he built. Him and Ted are head and shoulders above any other Manager at this Club, I'm just glad Ted didn't fall out with Lowe, because god knows what the Loweittes would say about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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