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How bad was he? Almost had the worst Saints win record of any permanant Manager in a League with 16.67%. But then there is Wigley with 7%.

Yes. At first we were afraid, we were petrified When we saw Ryan Bertrand in our side

Mark Hughes, is now a Saints legend.

Can I have some of what Neil Chen has been smoking?

Today, Hughes should only play players from the last game that played well. Which should create openings for at least 5 new starters.

Nothing would surprise me under Wreck it Ralph.

With 12 games to go we just needed 3 wins to stay up. With 10 games to go we just needed 3 wins to stay up. With 8 games to go we just needed 3 wins to stay up. With 6 games to go we just needed 3 wins to stay up. We now only have 4 games to go and still need 3 wins to stay up......... Hope will end when with 2 games to go we just need 3 wins to stay up.

We need a real Captain on the field driving the players on. Ideally more than one. Reality is that we have none.

I hope that Reed's contract enables the Club to fire him without compensation if we are relegated.

Gallows humour. But our defence has really been that bad. It is very puzzling why the Club decided that the defence did not need strengthening in January.

Possibly the best hope.

Pelligrino's win % in the Prem was 16.7%, Wigley's 7.1%. Not quite as bad!

Avenue_Saint A very interesting set of facts. Are the 5 years including this season?

Reality has set in today. But when we got into a position of having to gain points off Arsenal and then beat Chelsea was when we had really lost any realistic chance of staying up. After West Ham we needed miracles.

Getting out of the Championship usually needs 26+ wins a 56%+ win ratio. This team and squad are incapable of that.

Yes "it's the mind-numbing incompetence and catalogue of disastrous decisions by Reed and co. over the last 2 seasons". It is ALL the bad decisions that will relegate us and Reed was either involved in or took every bad decision.

The truth is that it took all of these mistakes to place us in this position. If any single one of them had not been made, we would probably avoid relegation this season. The fact is that Les Reed presided over all of these bad decisions and it is the combination of all of the mistakes that will relegate us. One or two bad decisions would have been ok and acceptable. Reed is unique in getting all of them wrong.

Agreed, what foresight you have!

It has actually taken more than 6 fundamental mistakes to put us in relegation. The chances should have been that not all the mistakes would have happened together in this short period of a year. If we only had a couple of f*** ups we would have been ok. Still Les Reed will become a real expert on what not to do.

Sadly I agree.

To stay up we need 3 wins and 10+ points. 3 wins and 1 draw from 6 games is very optimistic. Palace will be safe. None of their 5 games are against top 6. 3 are at home. Huddersfield just need a win and a few draws to make it very difficult for us. But 3 of their 5 games are against top 6 clubs. They are our best chance of surviving. I agree with Pamplemousse.

"Just need 3 wins". After the last PL win against WBA, we faced 12 more PL games and it was commonly agreed that we just needed 3 more PL wins to be safe. Winning 25% of the remaining games was a realistic expectation. Now, 6 games later and after no PL wins we are faced with the same target of 3 more wins, but we now need to win 50% of the remaining games. As a target, 50% wins is frankly unrealistic and we need a miracle. Get out the prayer mats.

To stay up we need to beat Chelsea and get at least 2 other wins. We showed today that we had the spirit that might achieve that. It is the hope that will hurt.

Carillo may become the worst £ signing by Saints. I hope not.

Just as Pelligrino became distracted by FA Cup and now Hughes? Pardew also had that away win in the Cup with WBA at Liverpool in January and seemed to get over confident at WBA following that.