CB Fry

Koeman was "good" for his first season and didn't jump ship. I find it unlikely that our next manager will be "good" enough to suddenly be good enough for a much bigger club than us in the space of one year. And if he is, we will have had a brilliant season and would be highly attractive to our next manager.

Seems unlikely we would make such a demand unless we are going to give him a five year contract, which would be a mental thing to do. If I was MP's agent I'd be saying if you want my guy for the long term, give him a long term contract. Ker-ching.

The most transparent bullsh it artist on the entire forum. We're all expecting it to happen this week, so if it happens tomorrow, or Thursday, or Friday then yeah, that's what we all think will happen because that's been in the papers. Don't even dream of pretending you are "proven right" by saying something that basically anyone could guess.

Just reading about this "Day of Rage" thing. McDonnell, supposed to be a potential Chancellor of the Exchequer, egging it all on. Going to be a real vote winner for Worcester woman and Mondeo man in key middle England marginals this one. Gawd help us all.

If you think a child talking to a player in Finland is an "orchestrated campaign" then God help us all.

No really worthy of a thread really, is it?

I think there is an odd rumour flying about concerning Javi Gracia, current manager of Rubin Kazan. Both the rumour and the candidate look like utter dogsh it to me. Move along.

Exactly. Couldn't give a monkey's about someone here for a "good few years". Basically that means mediocrity. If our next manager buggers off to Arsenal in two years time, that'll be because he's done a brilliant job. Fine by me.

There are some good reasons for that.

Now that's fu cking more like it. He's bloody John Beck with a sombrero on. Bobby Gould on the Sangria. El Davide Bassetino. Get him, and Jon Walters, in in in.

Who's going to start the sweepstake for the Hummel Denmark kit revival. I'm going 2020 after two more "standard" stripey seasons after this. Then the Pony tick revival in 2026 is going to be effing epic.

Seanio Dychillino.

I think the phrase "every single one of them better than your dream candidate Garry Monk" is definitely applicable.

Yeah, but apparently this idea is unique to horrible old Les Reed and his "demands, rules and regs" which are so demanding nobody has actually managed to say what any of them are. All we know is our track record of Les appointing lots of very good managers is proof that no decent manager will ever work for Les or something.

Except we have had a very, very consistent run of excellent managerial appointments, so good that 8th place and a cup final is now considered a failure, which history will judge as being perfectly fine. Personally I have no interest in us employing some big name high profile manager who gets to control everything because they won't be here any longer than the "coach" type appointment you seem to object to. We employ Pellegrini or LVG or whoever this "decent" manager you are thinking of and you give them total control of anything and everything they want. Great. They will be gone within two years either through success or failure. Meaning we end up perpetually starting over and over again and each "decent" manager turns everything up and down. Not sure how that is going to deliver better than 8, 7, 6, 8 and two Euro qualifications. Why do you think this would be better, and how much better would this approach be over a five-ten year period, not just the "I wish we'd employ X manager" short-term view. But the bit I don't get is the biggest clubs in the world have "coach" managers embedded in their structures and the biggest managers in the world are very used to working in "coach" situations with layers of directors with huge influence on sporting strategy and player recruitment. And lastly, Southampton have recruited a run of "decent" managers under the very director you say "decent" managers won't work for. All quite odd.

On Twitter, surprised there hasn't been a thread on it. Will be in the area on Monday helping out. Good lad.

Well, yeah.

I certainly wouldn't ever say that. All I say is he was a fine chairman but he found his level, which was the Championship. The Neil Warnock of football administrators.

But Les still employed him and it worked perfectly well (very well) for two years. And we offered him an extension. Koeman not a yes man, Les Reed employed him. But still we get this "Les only wants a yes man" bunch of arse. We will see whether this megalomania and rules and regs and all the rest of it is actually true or just the half-baked projections of people that have never liked him and never want to like him. I expect the next manager will be another one straight out if the quivering, gutless shrinking violet production line like Alan Pardew and Ronald Koeman. Lastly, I think the Venn diagram of "People that despise and want rid of what they see as controlling/singlemindedness/rigid vision of Les Reed" versus "People that swoon over and wish they could have back the controlling/singlemindedness/rigid vision of Nicola Cortese" I reckon Saint Billy and co would be bang on the intersection. Odd, ain't it.

Koeman not a decent manager then?

Nothing says ambition than missing out on a relegated manager now snapped up by, er, Watford.

It's a cartoon.

He already has. It doesn't get this far if he was going to refuse it. He will have known for a few weeks.

It's good to get your first capitulation in early to set the tone for the whole process.

If the job is "Lawrie Sanchez at Fulham".