Saint Keef

Skintsaint - Have you got a spare black armband available?.....I seem to have mislaid mine. If you haven't I may just have to slit my wrists out of sympathy for them. Also, he's moaning about Covid ruining their "not really knowing what they could have went on to achieve" yet 400 of them can still gather in Anfield Road to throw "objects" at, and "Boo" the oppositions bus. They really are a fuckin' class act aren't they?

Yeh, you've got to laugh at them. From the quote above...."We will never really know what we could have went on to achieve". Is that actually English being written? Been listening to Carragher too much I reckon.

I think when VAR came in, we as football fans hoped it would eradicate the controversy surrounding close decisions, obvious errors by the referee and assistants. To me, it has added to the controversies. It seems to me that there is at least one controversy now in just about every game. From the disallowed goal for Man U against Tottenham when Son was "flicked" in the face and rolled around on the ground for 4 minutes.......until the decision went their way, to the blatant "onside" goal that was disallowed for WBA against us. Again, only my opinion and some will disagree, but VAR is destroying the game. It has taken the "spirit" out of football. If the technology available couldn't tell that the WBA player was onside accurately, when everyone watching on TV could see he was onside by at least a few inches then something is seriously wrong. If they can't be accurate with something so blatant, how can they be accurate to say that Danny Ings toenail, Theo Walcott's nose, or Che Adams' hair on his legs were offside. (I'm not referring to specific incidents, but you know what I mean) And then there is the debate about when you freeze the frame and draw the lines. Everyone who has ever kicked a football knows that the amount of time the ball is actually in contact with the foot can vary depending what type of pass or shot you are making. At what stage do the VAR freeze it? at first contact or as the ball actually leaves the foot - enough time for a players nose to have moved 6 inches! In my opinion, VAR is failing badly and should be binned. Let's get the spirit beck in the game. Sure, there will be human error, but I'd rather have that over failed technology. Why not just show the referee a normal TV replay if he has doubt over his decision or has missed a foul - there are multiple cameras at every game - and that would clear up 90% of the errors. 'nuff said.

I wonder what headline or "spin" the media team will put on this performance when they send me their email with the match report and "highlights" (I can't wait to see what the highlights are). Perhaps the headline will be..... "DIFFICULT NIGHT FOR SAINTS AT THE HAWTHORNS" (No it wasn't. It was fucking easy. Nobody tried!) or how about "NARROW DEFEAT FOR SAINTS" (No it wasn't, we were pummeled) SAINTS SAVING THEMSELVES FOR THE SEMI-FINAL (that's Bollocks too) SAINTS STRUGGLE AGAINST WEST BROM (I didn't see much evidence of a struggle) The headline should read....... "APOLOGIES TO ALL SAINTS FANS. THAT WAS A FUCKING SHAMBLES" (Yep, I'll accept that one). In answer to captainchris's comment (below) to my previous message. Yes Chris, I do agree with you to a certain extent, but my point is, I'm afraid if the ownership of a club is "Mickey Mouse" then that will feed all the way down through the club. Manager, players, staff, and right through to the fans. Just sayin'......

Does anyone know what the Chinese is for "Gao, spend some fucking money on some decent players or fuck right off" This whole shambles starts at the top and it seems, goes right through the club. Up until now I have firmly been in the "Keep Ralph" Brigade. I like him as a manager and I think he is a decent bloke, but I am starting to wonder if he has "lost the dressing room" as they say. There is no way they played for him tonight. It wasn't just losing to the second worst team in the league - that can happen sometimes - they beat Chelsea last week, but for me it was the manner of the defeat. West Brom absolutely pummeled us tonight and it could have been 5 or 6 nil by half-time. I said a few pages ago that this performance has angered me more than the 9-0 and I stand by that. They just didn't seem up for it, and that is unacceptable. I've seen rabbits in the headlights deal with the situation better than our defence tonight. I'm not one of the bed wetters on here who find fault with everything Saints do, and I always try to put a positive spin on it, but tonight I can find no excuses.

We don't always agree with each other on this site, but I would hazard a guess that we do actually all "give a fuck", which is more than can be said for the players today. They look like they couldn't give a flying fuck about it. The fucking Keystone Cops playing at the back and "the Invisible Men" playing in midfield. I think I'm more angry with this display than the 9-0. Shocking (and I'm not normally one of the bed wetters). Embarrassing. Leicester will tear us a new one next week if we play like this.

They probably said the same about apartheid, the abolition of slavery, women's rights to vote, the abolition of hanging, the continuing fight against racism, stop the Vietnam War and so on and so on. What's the point of it? It'll never change. I expect people sat around during the Second World War saying just that. What's the point of fighting the Germans.....we'll never win. The point is, sometimes (not always) these things snowball and change does happen. OK, so it may not stop the Qatar World Cup, but if enough people boycott it, including clubs, fans, media outlets, advertisers and even Nations then it loses its value as a tournament. So if this petition in some small way helps to raise the awareness of atrocities and corruption going on, then I'm for it. It's a matter of personal choice of course, but I'm guessing you won't be signing the petition? I'm not sure if you are playing Devil's Advocate or just being contrary You're entitled to your views of course and this site is for reasoned debate (sometimes!) so I'm not arguing with you, just saying that in this instance I happen to think you're wrong, Devil's Advocate or not.

Well done for posting this up. Signed with pleasure. Just another example of corruption at a very high level.

Can we trust Mason to hold the subs board up correctly though. It will probably be upside down. No one will understand why the number 9 was subbed when clearly the number 6 was meant to come off. VAR will review it and, still unsure, Mason will then phone Mike Dean for a final decision, who irrespective of any evidence will award Man Utd a goal.......even though they are playing Tottenham 166 miles away. Simple.

Hi all. After 28 minutes yesterday, I wet my bed, took an overdose and slashed my wrists. They've stomach-pumped me, patched up my wrists and I've just got back from the hospital. How many did we lose by in the end?

Haha....knowing my luck I'd probably go to bed with Kenzie Benali and wake up next to Franny Benali.

The most pleasing thing for me (apart from the result of course) was that at 2-0 down, our heads didn't drop and we showed some real spirit to get the result. With West Brom's result yesterday, they will be buzzing next week, but as a result of today's fight back, I think we'll be buzzing as well. Burnley are not a "bad" team. They don't play attractive football for sure, but season after season they constantly show that they know how to grind out results. Today, the boot was firmly on the other foot. We were shaky at times, but we also played some good football. Well done Saints! It's just a pity that so many keyboard warriors on here, who obviously know far more about the game than Ralph, committed suicide after 28 minutes and that we won't be able to enjoy their moronic comments anymore.

Whether or not he is liked on here, he is and always has been a model professional footballer. A very good role model for younger players. He might not have set the world alight like some others have, but I always felt he gave 100% on the pitch and was a very good servant for this club. Well played and congratulations to him I say.

So now you're telling me it's wrong to smuggle two tonnes of cocaine now is it? Huh! The World has gone bloody mad I tell you. I wouldn't mind betting someone on here blames Jack Stephens for it.

I hadn't seen that. Yeh, good point. Maybe the deal with Scotland was "Please can you just play one of our lads (Che) but rest the other (Stu)".

Congrats to Che. A fine goal. Good first touch, control and shot. Only the Faroe Islands I know, but as long as he keeps doing it at international level that can only be good for us, even if it meant we had to sell him on at a good profit somewhere down the line. I do wonder if Ralph had a polite word with the English and Scottish camps, sending home JWP as a fitness precaution and Armstrong not used unnecessarily. I also thought Bednarek had a pretty decent game against England. Happy that Che came through unscathed and with a boost to his confidence as well.

Do try to keep up Turkish....this is important. If we go down against Burnley and then go down to West Brom as well, then the game's up and we'll probably go down. We really need to step-up against Leicester in order not to go down against them as well, in the Cup. We will then need to face up to Leicester in the league to make sure we don't go down. Basically if our heads go down then we won't stay up, but if we keep our heads up then the likelihood is we won't go down. Should we reach the Cup Final and we are still up, then we probably won't go down. I hope that helps. Bloody Hell, this Jack Daniel's tastes good tonight.

A very close call for me, between KWP and Stu. I think Romeu would have been up there as well but for his injury. I think he was having a really good season. Let's face it though, whoever scores the winner in the Cup Final will be Player of the Season......possibly the decade. (Keep dreaming Keef - it's working!)

I just read that site. I need to go for a wash now as I'm feeling a little grubby.

So who the hell can we blame on here now.......ummmm......uhhhhh.......Oh Jack Stephens. Let's have a pop at him.

Calling someone a racist is light humour? OK whatever. I can't wait to see your one-man stand-up comedy routine once you get on to the serious stuff. I bet it's a right hoot. Anyway, I'll take it that you meant it to be funny.....although I didn't find it so. I've used up all my messages for today (blast!!! I had some really good things to say too) so I won't be answering further.

It was a little light humour Turkish. Don't fucking call me a racist. You need to come out from behind your keyboard occasionally. There are many things I could call you with some of the utter drivel you put up on here. Twat seems to be a good place to start and if the Mods aren't happy with this so be it.

Good luck to Che McAdams as he shall be called from now on.

He has been a very good servant to the club, but this is a harsh business. We need someone on the left similar to the KWP ilk on the right. I'm not suggesting I know who that might be, but a left back who is quick, good in the tackle, can take on and beat opposition defenders and can supply a final ball into the box and then get back quickly if it breaks down. I'm afraid Ryan doesn't offer much of these anymore. Far too many backward passes and he seems to lack "desire and determination". Whether that's his attitude or just age has caught up with him I'm not sure. I get the argument that we need to strengthen elsewhere as a priority. But a marauding pacey left back in my opinion would open up so many more opportunities. I wonder how much Man U would want for Luke Shaw.......Haha.

Up until the "taking of the knee" I thought we looked pretty good..........after that we were shit.