St Louis

Apparently £5mil... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43174002

Not sure why we would want/need an App when we have a responsive website? Apps are useful for some businesses, but for us it would likely just replicate the website.

Shall we just forget all of the good work and progress that he's helped bring us over the last few years then? Its too easy to just blame one person, he didnt have the sole decision on the players we sold (because they wanted out) or the Managers that have left us (because they wanted out). Would he be the best thing ever if Poch or Koeman hadnt walked out on us and we were still Top 10? P.S Im not a happy clapper, and im certainly not happy with the current state of affairs! It just frustrates me when we decide to blame people (via guesswork) without knowing what really goes on behind the scenes. Maybe he is the only one who fought to keep these players when the rest of the board wanted to sell?

I dont think we even have any 'youthful talent' coming through anymore.... it was inevitable that our model (develop > sell) couldnt be sustained forever, it was always going to catch us up

Theo Walcott & Jack Wilshere Two players who could add flair and goals to our midfield/attack, and who will both be motivated to play games and get a World Cup place. Two talented players who were flying a few years back and very highly regarded, but have had a poor couple of seasons. We are often good at turning these sorts of players around (Crouch, Palmer, Romeu, etc) who have maybe struggled a bit at their previous club. And I think realistically we would appeal to them both, maybe with wages being the only stumbling block.

Apologies if thats the case, and there is inside info that the squad and football community believe he is a very poor coach. Personally I've not heard anybody speak badly of him or his ability, but I've heard many on here put 2 + 2 together because we've been crap for a couple of seasons now (since he joined us) - forgetting we've lost all of our best players in recent seasons

How do you know that then? I assume you're guessing/assuming!? How do you know we wouldnt be even worse without his coaching... oh you dont, you're just speculating.

Exactly this! And dont forget how cr@p Graziano Pelle and his goals were too...

All about opinions as they say, as I agree with you. I believe over a season we would perform better with Long and Boufal.

I'm not saying you are wrong as we definitely lack pace in the squad, but could Shane Long not play as part of a front 3? He gets beyond the defenders more often and seems to create/have more chances than Redmond, and his conversion rate (although poor) is surely better than Redmond's?

I'm not one for bashing our own players, but I completely agree. I just cannot see it with Redmond, I never feel confident he's going to score when he has a chance.

..... and in the scene with Le Tissier you can see Kevin Keegan in the background in the Rank Xerox kit!

BTW, thats not me saying 'anyone' could do better, it was my attempt at humour I think Les is doing a fine job, and has played his part in establishing us as a Top 10 Premier League team, which I would take every season.

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Sorry I wasn't directing that solely at you, yours was just the most recent post to quote However.... - You seem to think Les holds all of the power and thats simply not true. The owners/financial board decide what bids to accept (with some input from Les). - You say he lost the best manager in the league in Poch!? Again, how was that his fault? Im sorry, but look at Spurs now... Poch knew that the opportunity was bigger there and resigned from the club. - He got lucky with Koeman!? Did he really? Looks a shrewd appointment to me and a great judgement that he would fit well with Saints, as he hadnt been great in his last role. And FWIW I know of a few senior members of staff at the club who have all told me that Koeman fell out with most at the club. - You didnt say you 'expected' him to stay, but you clearly think VVD 'should' be staying and that Les is just "stripping the first team of star players and fan favourites every year purely to make dosh and weaken the team" - otherwise what exactly are you blaming Les for? The point Im trying to make is that the club is a lot bigger than Les Reed, there are people higher up the food chain who make the big financial decisions, trust me. The club are able to attract players of this calibre and potential, because we do allow them to use us as a stepping stone. Its a win-win as we get to use these great talents, get unbelievable league finishes (6th, 7th & 8th is superb for a club as small as us) and also reap the financial benefits when they move on. Its a bit cr*p I know, as we keep seeing our favourite players leave, but I cant see it changing. Spain have it with their Top 2 and we have it with our Top 6 or 7 - there is a pecking order. P.S I have a Mrs and kids at home, so I have no need to come here for an argument. I just wanted to point out that this is not Les Reed's fault, as easy as it his to blame him.

And im sorry but no Director of Football (or whatever Les is) in the world could keep a player of that class with those ambitions at a club like Saints for the long term. Its always going to be inevitable and a matter of 'when' they leave, with every superstar we grow/develop (unless we get investment the size of Man City one day).

I love Saints as much as the next man, but please can we get some perspective here.... - Firstly, of course VVD would want to leave for a club that are far bigger than us, will triple his wages and offer him CL football. He is not a Hampshire boy, he's been here 5 minutes. - VVD probably does love it here at Saints, but its impossible to turn down such a great opportunity, so it saddens me to say it, but I do understand his motives. - How is this Les Reed's fault? I am sure he rates VVD as much as we do and would love for him to stay, but if the player wants to go we all know how this ends. - And if it is a financial decision solely (and nothing to do with VVD's head being turned) then those decisions sit with Kat, the CFO, potential new investors, etc. Football is sadly not as it was 10-20 years ago, when Le Tiss says he turned down the big boys as they were only offering £200 a week more than he got at Saints. He admits himself that the story would probably be different between him and Saints in the modern era. I'd be gutted to see VVD go as I think he is genuinely 'world class', I'd be even more gutted if its to Liverpool (as I despise the club and their deluded fans) but lets not throw all the blame at Les Reed! He just seems an easy target to vent our anger at, when the reality is that he probably wants him here a lot more than the money men/women at the club....

I think Caceres may be annoyed to have been released, as he's just deleted all Saints related pics from his social media, very strange.

I appreciate that the style of our football has been pretty dour this season, but I just cant shake this 'be careful what you wish for' feeling at the moment. I may be completely wrong, but talk of more change (manager and ownership) makes me feel nervous, as I just have a horrible feeling that over the next few seasons we could be wishing for the days of top half finishes and cup finals. We may have the occasional peak season like last year where we finish 6th, but lets be realistic... most seasons will see Chelsea, Spurs, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and probably Everton finish above us, so finishing 8th is a great achievement and not one I think we can better regularly. The 'best of the rest' clubs probably look at us enviously. I also cant see us having a squad as strong as we've had over the last few years for some time, we had a great crop that came through the divisions (Lallana, Schneiderlin, Fonte, etc) and we added to it brilliantly (Mane, Pelle, Wanyama, Clyne, etc) and im not so sure thats going to be easy to replicate. Losing your best players every year will catch up wth you eventually, the law of averages tells you that we will sign a few duffs as replacements (some may say thats happened in the last 12 months) A new manager may inject some much needed life into the squad/club, but please dont assume it will... traditionally, regular manager changes usually sees a club head downwards (unless you are Chelsea!). So I'm not a Puel In or a Puel Out man right now.... I'm just bloody confused and undecided! Anyone else in that camp? *Puts on tin hat*

Is that his mother or wife?

I think the point GITR was making is that he's not got the job, but is the early front runner. Odds on leader with all bookies currently, not just the Moose

+ 1 - It's just so Chelsea, and a nod to their roots. No need to always move with the times

Liverpool with no losses and sitting on top.... Zzzzzz

Done - good luck.

I know I only have half a story here sorry, but... I had lunch with the Sponsorship Manager a couple of weeks back, and he said he saw the 17/18 kits back in November and liked them both a lot. Unfortunately he wouldn't give me any indication of the designs or even away colours (despite me begging!) But it is all done and signed off and ready to go, so it does make you wonder why we always have to wait until June/July!?