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I'm sorry but that's irrelivant. If the economic scare stories prove to be accurate how ****ing dumb will the conservative's decision to hold a referendum look? Dave calls a refurendum, then a few months later he is saying vote leave will be an economic disaster, cause World war three etc - why ****ing call one in the first place if that's what could happen?

Could quickly change if (big if) they sort out the Corbyn situation and position themselves centre left. This refurendum is 100% Tory in the making, their idea and mainly their people fighting it out. If it does wreck the economy it will be the biggest **** up in political history. They won't be able to say "you can't trust Labour with the economy" for a while.

If Brexit does mess the economy up the Tories are f*cked. Labour just gave to replace Corbyn with someone semi-human and they will win by a mile.

Surely if a PM calls a refurendum he should have a plan for each possible outcome? **** me, what a mess.

I've got a clock on my phone so don't need one.

Whatever the reason, dragging it out doesn't help, it's all time lost.

They only did that because they could do it online. If they had to walk down their local village hall and actually talk to someone I expect they wouldn't have bothered.

Only got themselves to blame, lazy ****ers.

The thing is the vote was for the UK to leave the EU, not England on its own. If the UK is to be broken up surely first there should be another refurendum for the people of England to decide between a UK in EU or an England on its own out?

Bit late for Chuka to crawl out from where he has been hiding. If he hadn't have bottled out of the leadership race the party probably wouldn't be in this mess.

I reckon they might have more than one person working on these things so could do two things at the same time, possibly more.

Sounds about right. The fact is that the vast majority of MPs are pro EU so any Brexit is going to be watered down to an extent that it is not even noticeable.

But most of our MPs want b. Nothing much will change, we will just pay in less and have no say, maybe do a deal on immigration.

No, but if the government policy on immigration is not working the public will vote in someone else with a different plan. Something we currently can't do.

All the major parties have been ignoring people's concerns over immigration for years and years - this is the result. Politicians need to understand that they are here to represent the will of the people, not to lecture them. They have reaped the whirlwind.

Wow! Didn't see that coming. Big big day and a big big victory for democracy. A big big **** you to big business, politicians and Unelected Europeans taking our money and deciding what to do with it.

She's been undecided but fell for project fear in the end. I expect the vast majority from the 'don't knows' in the polls will opt for the safe option and vote remain. It's a shame the campaign resorted to bull**** scare stories but it will have worked IMO.

I think remain will win and it with be knocking on 60%, maybe more. Was going to go down and vote but chatting to the Mrs on way down found out she was going to vote remain so we agreed there was no point cancelling each other's out and went for a drink instead.

Great result for us that, couldn't stand facing that smug **** Ronaldo again.

But we have never ever had the levels of immigration we are seeing today (except I think during WW2) so it has never been such an issue. If we could control the borders and the government chose not to the public can decide wether to re-elect them or not, at the moment there is no one to vote for to do anything.

I dunno, the only time we have won anything is when we had home advantage. We're just not very good at it.

It articles like that I hate. Highlighting the economic risks are fair enough but when people try to make out that 300k extra people every year doesn't have an effect on public services during a time of austerity then you just know they are talking ******. It's the lack of honesty on both sides of the debate that has made this whole refurendum so irritating. Leaving is a gamble with the economy but it IS the only way to solve the problems caused by mass uncontrolled immigration. Staying is the safest bet for the economy but means there is no way of stopping mass uncontrolled immigration. Personally I think the gamble is worth it, otherwise where is the hope?

Great, now we have Spain, Germany, France and Italy already on our side of the draw. Wales have poland, Switzerland and Croatia so far. Nice one Roy!

It's just uncertainty they don't like. Most of those ****s banging on about how bad it will be are probably going to make a fortune the day after remain wins.

Seems pretty random to me. No surprise people with agendas try and connect the two though. If you look at the bookies odds they have always made remain much more likely.