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no updates on the burger situation yet. lucky to get updates on the match so I think its pushing it to ask twaatter to follow trousers too

officialsaintsAlan Pardew has just taken his seat in the main stand as Farnborough kick off. #saintsfc latest from twitter EDIT: officialsaintsSaints freekick floated in towards the back post by Schneiderlin but goes out of play. Saints survive penalty shout for handball. #saintsfc

twaatter just caght up with the farn counter attacck

latest from ****ter is 6 mins old and sumit about saga

hey your updates are up to date. im just lettin those without twitter realise how ducking sheite it is.

saintsfc have a goal chalked off for off-side.Jake Thomson crosses from the left and Jamie White heads home, however the linesman flags latest from Twitter

Twitter says he is in the main stands at the start. thats the last thing twitter said though lol officialsaintsAlan Pardew has just taken his seat in the main stand as Farnborough kick off. #saintsfc

just signed up to twitter and now realize what a big pile of pants it is. saints updates longer than 15 words long disapear off the side of the screen never to be seen again lol

you could have been waiting at a red light at a pedestrian crossing. when the green man shows up you could walk accross the road.

Has he been formaly appointed? Seems to be what we need but we dont know who else AP has in mind.

Previous lot tried to build the team around the youth that we already had here. They tried to mix in the right blend of experience (wooton, perry and others) to compliment the youth. AP seems to want to do the same thing as the previous lot and by the sounds of it believes that the tallent is there but the mix has been wrong. I have no problem slating the last lot for getting things wrong but the ideas behind what they did are the same now as they were then. AP should at least be able to get more right as he is a much better manager than the previous 2 we have had. The hearts game suggests he has got something right and hopefully by the time we play Milwall we will be looking pretty strong.

My guess is that now we are asking questions we will get some kind of press release within the next day or so. It seems that the PR company looking after saints now have guaged the fans opinions and acted pretty sharpish to make sure they are catered for. That doesnt mean that the club will rush into anything but I wouldnt be suprised if there was an update on how things are progressing to keep us in the loop.

I think the Arsenal model is not far off what ML will be basing his approach on. They dont buy players on over inflated prices or wages, they like to bring through youth and build there teams from within while adding quality where its needed, they leave the running of the team to the manager and they aim for the top 4 and champions league football. Man U manage to get it year on year but look at how much they generally spend to get there? Same with Chelsea. Man City are spending more this year and still no-one believes they will be in the top 4 this season. So if ML applys the Arsenal model but altered to suit the league we are in I would expect us to rise slowly but continue to see progress for a number of years and maybe eventually have an aim for top half of the prem. If we get that far there is no reason why we cant continue to look upwards. All sounds pie in the sky and just a dream but if they take things one step at a time and get the right things right then who knows? Im smiling now at the idea that we still have a club, i hope to still be smiling in 5 years time when we are back taking on the big boys.

Im not trying to have a dig at the situation we was in as to be honest, without someone spunking a load of money into the club we were never going to live beyond ouer means. Some of the dross that came in was questionable and the choices of manager even more so. But what im saying is that for years the complaint was that Lowe was a tight arse and never spent anything and as such we missed out on players like Drogba, Saha and someone else I cant remember. It was the lack of spending that many blamed our fall on. A poopy fan was trying to suggest that our downfall was because of overspending which would suggest all our problems lay at the feet of the Wilde board for having a crack at getting us back up to the Prem. While his effort made ultimatly made things worse by not having the investment to back up the spend I dont think the attempt can be blamed for over all situation over the past how ever many years. Back to the main point though, if ML bank roles a sensible approach with the Prem as an eventual target then I will be more than happy. Id like for us to get back to the prem and feel like we earned and deserve to be there. Just knowing that we dont have to worry about pressure from the banks or loans is enough for me right now.

OK so we overspent in an attempt to get us promoted. Would you say that is the underlieing reason of our downfall over the past 10 years say? Thats my point, We can moan about Lowe or Wilde or who ever but IMO the main thing that most saints fans will blame our downfall on is the lack of spending while we were in the Prem. IMO we actually did spend more than it seamed but we spent allot on rubbish. I do believe that had more been spent and maybe if it had been spent wisely then we could have realistically pushed onto the next level. But instead we didnt spend enough and dropped out of the prem. A short period of over spending didnt help matters but they certainly were not the cause for the position we found ourselves in. Had that 6 or 7 mil not been spent and Lowe never got the boot the team would have still got weeker, crouds would have dwindled and the cash would have dried up. We would still be in a position where we need a buyer or an investor to turn us around. so again I cant see how we can declare that we screwed up because of overspending. After so many years of things going tits up and us lot blaming lack of spending being the reason.

At the time the gates were reasonable and the player sales provided the money to spend so I would say we could afford to. We couldnt afford to not get promoted and keep that list of players so bad management there after played a big part in our downfall. not the attempt to get us out of trouble.

Like i said, you have enjoyed some success but should you go into admin and sink like we did then fishy fingers will be pointed at the over spend as the reason to your downfall despite the success you got in the mean time. I doubt we will ever look at overspending as a major factor in our demise. Our best bit of recent history was the FA cup final on little spend and the lack of spending there after is the usual reason we blame our downfall on. Not saying either have done things the right way but the reasons for failure will certainly not be the same. That said poopy are still on the edge of a takeover so as yet havnt failed.

Exactly. That 6 mil was raised from player sales where as Poopys spend was raised from erm, weapons sales? There is a loose connection in that perhaps we shouldnt have spent all of it but we were aiming for promotion which would have justified the spend. If we were arguing about the worth of the players that got bought then we can be slated but I dont count us as a club that has managed to overspend over the last 10 to 15 years. In fact, to point at a failed 6 mil challenge to regain prem status as proof of our overspending downfall is a bit laughable. Poopy havnt sunk yet and they have enjoyed success on there spending but if they do go down the pan then the overspend is something that most will believe caused there problems dispite the good times in between.

Im sure we have spent more than 6 mil in one season before and by todays standards thats still not overspending at CCC level and above.

we seriously arguing about the weather now? We may as well bring back Lowe so we at least can argue about saints related things.

When did we ever Over spend? And I mean EVER? Our record signing cost 4 mil FFS alright we didnt see the best of him but that was competing in the Prem against teams that were spending up to 20 mil on players. Our downfall was probably down to lack of spending on the right players rather than over spending. Poopy spent big and it brought them more success than thhey could ever have dreamt about but the wages seem to be crippling the club. That only became our problem when we didnt get back up to the wads of sky money.

Dont want to stick up for JP/MW but the lack of scouting could be put down to the massive cost cutting that has been going on for ages? Catch 22 situation as without the decent scouting we end up with Pulis and co. It seems that AP has to not only build a team to play each week but also build a complete backroom team from top to bottom. Could be the end for a fair few familiar faces around the place and could also mean scrapping the idea of going for promotion this season. Survival may be a more realistic target this term with a push for play offs next season.

Sounds like good news. If ML wants his directors to buy a season ticket then there is no reason why there should be anyone else in the comfy seats free loading. Some of these people have done fantastic things for the club in the past but its the recent past that the club has been suffering and they have been quite happy to take there free tickets.

Wasnt Prost a luvvie? Being serious though, Prost was one (probably only) Lowe's success' and I think once Lowe was gone Prost maybe lost some of the will to stay. Probably only due to Lowe putting so much emphasis on the acadamy rather than the 1st team but generally I thought Prost liked the way Lowe looked at things and didnt think it would be as good for him when he was gone. Huw Jennings is another one we miss from the acadamy I think though. Out of the 2 I think Prost is missed more. Id be happy to see either back and building the acadamy to what it once was.

Funniest thread in a while. FACT!