Farmer Saint

What the hell is a "factional weapon"? We're not talking about parties, we're talking about Farage v Burnham. So I'll repeat: Racism, fascism, corruption, Brexit etc are all far worse, surely?

I presume you'd also call me left, but I'm a centrist. I think you're misunderstanding what counts as centrist and left nowadays.

I think Farage has shown far more worrying characteristics. Racism, fascism, corruption, Brexit etc are all far worse, surely?

I think you misunderstand what is said to wind people up and what people actual believe.

Like what policies?

Ok, so at no point you have said you don't think Burnham will be a good PM?

I can't comment on how he'd be at the actual job, but I can comment on his past political misfires and how he's ruined the country due to that. What about Burnham's career makes you think he won't be a successful PM?

Absolutely, and people will always have them, but expressing them in a public place ahead of any evidence makes people look knee-jerk, partisan and immature.

Why have preconceptions though? Just judge him on what he does. You complained from day -100 on Keir, with him being bad for the economy (even though the economy outperformed the previous 3 Tory PMs), and then when Keir looked like he was getting shunted you threw your toys out of the pram about Burnham taking over. How's about you stop, take a step back, and judge people on their actions and actual results rather than what you're being told to think by the Mail or the Express?

This.

So you prefer a narrow specialist scope rather than a broad management scope to be PM. Personally I think the second is better considering he will have a similar setup to what he previously had in Manchester, just on a larger scale.

SOG alert!!

Glad to see that people are giving Burnham a chance, and not making up their minds before he's had a chance to implement any of his ideas. I'm also wondering what previous experience @Sir Ralph wants before someone becomes PM, considering Mayor of our largest cities isn't the requisite experience wanted for the role?

True story.

She's got some massive norks.

True, but I was joking! I was doing it on behalf of the usual suspects.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c142jmxr5x6t U-turn alert!! Who had 3 days?

Do you not get left racists then?

I was thinking about the prison issues the other day. I'm wondering whether instead of prison sentences for white collar crime we look at full time community service for the length of the "prison" sentence, alongside tagging. Would help with number of inmates in addition to helping make our communities better.

Huh, how weird. We were told they were all moving to Dubai. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgjp79m42go

I guess it's akin to saying you'd want Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Amin/Netanyahu to die.

Just under Gary Aardvark.

Ah, apologies!

Absolute horseshit.

It's not that kind of IT. IT Support needs to be in the office.