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General view that he played alright last night? I wasn’t overly convinced for the first goal, just left standing. I think he was left flapping at the disallowed goal and there was a moment in the second half whereby he looked all over the place. of course, with more game time, and I imagine he’s here for a while now, he will get more match fit. I’m not his biggest fan and though Macca is not Dino Zoff, don’t think he’s worse than FF. seemed to me to be a desperate idea to change something for the sake of it, because everything isn’t working.

Someone’s got to say; how long has RH got left?

Thought FF could have done better, completely flat footed.

We only deserve to go down if we finish on the bottom three

I don't understand this assumption that we have players that are bad enough that we are 'lucky' not to have been relegated. When you look at other similar clubs in the EPL, Burnley, West Ham, Palace, Brighton, Newcastle etc. we don't have worse players than those. All clubs outside of City, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea are treading a fine line in this league. Clearly the likes of Leicester and Everton, and arguably Wolves are one step ahead of the rest with decent support from owners. The rest of us go by the grace of God and we hope the promoted teams come up and go straight back down. I don't blame the manager as a whole, but his day to day decisions leave me baffled and when we shipped out Vokins and Vallery that would have DEFINITELY been approved by him, they are not high earners and i doubt the players were insisting on it. Why would he have done that? I don't even blame the owner as a whole either, yeah, he's no good for us long term but he's hardly restricted much. We have still bought big money players like Ings and Taki's wages won't be cheap and he will want us in the top league to sell, it is not in his interests to provide no backing at all and get relegated. Basically, we are going through a shit run, really bad, one of the worst i can remember and the manager (and the players) has to take the can for that. We have probably done enough to see the season out and if i was running the gaff, i would see the season out with RH whilst keeping my eyes open for a 'possible' replacement in the summer if we finish on 35/36 points.

Yeah, that’s my point, up and down

Don't have a problem with that, we deserve something from having to put up with our team. Took 14/1 at HT v Wolves for a Wolves win, cashed out at £105 so I could cheer on for an equaliser, not an educated decision. If I can get 100/1 on us going down, I'll stick a tenner on it, i do not want us to, but I wouldn't rule it out as impossible. Almost certainly not going to happen unless we literally lose all of our games bar one, as if eh? I got a few trains of thought on betting to go down. 1 - It's good value 2 - It will damped the blow 3 - I couldn't care less about The PL. I think a bit of me wants us to be a WBA or Norwich, seems a lot more interesting than this crap we have to put up with. So, where can i get 100/1?

that Norwich night game, classic HT from Le Tiss, that lob! But yeah, that second is very undererated

😂 you got a better memory than me. 89/90, my favourite season ever. First season I went to all games, home and away. The Liverpool result still tops it for me, ever. Great day at QPR, passed my test in the morning, got smashed and then got literally smashed that night. could have finished third but lost in north London last two games.. That cup Game at Spurs was fucking top. The Liverpool game was a damp squib, but met Graham Kelly and thought I was speaking to Graham Hiley 😂 loved the 424 season

That season Chris Nichols (bless him, genuinely nice guy, sad what’s happened to him now) tried to resign after we lost to Forest away in the cup (and we got battered on the Trent Bridge, though we got our own back later that night).

Then we appointed Branfoot. 😂

I was thinking about that before. But what happened the following season ? Wasn’t that another 19 game winless run. In fact I feel sure that’s the season you’re on about mate. That 89 team was superb, well at attacking anyway. Then the next season we had a good start and then collapsed before, like you say, a,late penalty against Newcastle, think it was Razor that scored. Then I think we beat Blackburn when Timmy saved a Shearer penalty. That was 90/91. Or am I wrong?

I do find it strange that a lot of people on here find that criticism equals abuse. Everyone has their opinion on Redmond and obviously all the other players and some opinions are stronger than others of course. But I find it funny that the words ‘abuse’ and ‘whipping boy’ are used a lot. I would class abuse as something more public and personal, in the fact of a direct Twitter message etc. And if someone fails to see Redmonds attributes then that doesn’t make him a whipping boy, it’s just someone else’s opinion. If you don’t like it, ignore or counter argue. Of course some will never be convinced of a particular players abilities and no matter what, will be over critical like yesterday. This is a forum of fickle football fans, doubt Redmond reads or even knows about it and if he did, would he care? So what’s the abuse?

That’s the idea maybe, you play badly and still pick up results. That’s not the sign of a bad team, it’s the sign of a good or resilient team. Fulham away, we were blunt? Two goals disallowed and a free kick that hit the bar and the follow up cruelly spun away from a tap in. Apart from a last minute header, Arsenal didn’t offer any chances to win, neither did Wolves away. And Liverpool, a freak result. You might as well call every game on ifs and buts, then we could be bottom or top.

We’re not lucky to have him FFS. 9 out of 10 managers would have been gone after a Leicester last season as the subsequent Everton results. Even more so with a dicking at OT and losing a club record six in a row. seriously, he’s lucky to be in a job, most wouldn’t be. im not advocating his dismissal but to say, “we’re lucky to have him....” you will have to explain that one.

Incredible work? Which was?

Yep, only sustainable if the fans do embrace it and embrace the 'pantomime' circus of it. People like me and you will never embrace it, so the question is, will there be enough others to? Obviously, if there is, they won't worry about me and you spending saturdays etc. playing golf but I think that long term, it might be the demise of football, certainly in its present form. But i might be being naïve on that.

I'm not so bothered about the lack of money or ambition that is in our club, at the end of the day, if you are supporting your local team, then it's by luck and I guess been born a Saints supporter is better luck than being born a Halifax supporter. There are plenty of clubs and fans that would take what we have. However, you are right in respect of VAR, it is seriously undermining real old school football fans and this exclusion will only serve purpose to see the likes of my generation just say 'fuck it', and not go back. It's a lot easier to do now than ever before. I am so tempted to be honest. Even my 17 year old son is pissed off with it and he's like any blind football mad kid, but even he is saying, 'what's the point?' Not sure the EPL or FA actually realise that they are undermining the roots of football when we can all go back, i swear that apart from the usual suspects, a lot of grounds will be half full. If it was not for a good bunch of lads that i meet up with, and especially away games, I really would not be going back.

We are a bang average PL club. We are not any different to the likes of Burnley and Crystal palace and not that far ahead of Norwich and West Brom. The likes of Everton and West Ham are just ahead of us because they do spend money and do try and compete, even though that rarely makes a difference. Our season, like the others could equally consist of relegation, mid table mediocracy or pushing for a top 7 spot and Europe. We'll have the odd cup run and maybe get to a final but we will more than likely lose to a top six club. We will get some good players and a good manager but they will leave for bigger clubs with more money and ambition. If they do not leave, they aren't that good. We will buy a lot of shit players and waste most of our incoming money. If we are playing well, no one will mention the owner but when we lose, the owner will no longer be required. An our fans are like all other football fans, fantasists and unrealistic and fickle as fuck.

I don’t blame the club for singing Redmond. English player who was good for Norwich, I think a few other clubs in for him. Think at the time it was considers a nice little coup. As I said before, they’re not all going to work out and Redmond just hasn’t developed into anything worthwhile. He’s a poor mans Walcott, who is never going to get any better. Got no problem with the club taking chances on players like him and Adams, but it’s our foreign policy that is really not working out. Revert back to British players or at least players that have played here. Yes, we could miss out on the next Mane but we’d also miss out on the next Ely.

I think we may have been premature on a couple of these: Carrillo - never given a proper chance. I know he was never going to be an Ings or even Pelle, but to be honest, would have been worse than Che Adams? Boufal - Had enough chances to show he's the same as Redmond, Mousa and arguably Walcott. Lots of show and little end product. Not saying we should have kept Boufal but he wasn't any worse than what we have now. Hoedt is playing for Roma or Lazio isn't he, if he is playing for them then he's good enough for us. Elynoussi - i think simply not good enough for our league Lemina - should be good enough really, just think he can't be bothered. All teams are going to buy duds, it happens. Just think with a couple of them, we could have persisted a little more.

And there you go

This performance, so far just sums up everything about is

Redmond is so shite

I don’t think the season is done just yet. There’s no reason why we can’t rediscover our previous form and the way the league is this year, we could start sniffing around for a Euro spot again. I think it’s unlikely but it is possible, think we’re only 7 points off 7th. Of course they’ll be some on here that hope we lose to Bournemouth so we can concentrate on finishing 7th.