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I’d have been happy with Dyche, but my suspicion is that any manager we hired would be a proxy manager for Rasmus Hipster-son, Dyche wouldn’t have worn that, nor would any other self respecting top tier manager, which is probably why we went the route we did.

I think itk football people would see past JWP’s current malaise.

Those, yes, but also JWP, people have very short memories with regard to his contributions over the last few seasons and to me, what we are seeing now, is the manifestation of a very unhappy player.

Just to bring the mood down a bit, has anyone considered some of our better players may leave in January? They can’t be enjoying this anymore than we are, some will have aspirations to move onto better things better Including international selections etc which will be seriously hampered by our current situation and seriously threatened if / when we are relegated.

Do SR actually care if we go down? Maybe the lure of the parachute payment is more attractive than the risk of attempting to spend our way out of trouble?

I don’t know, it’s all clouded with emotion and blind optimism. Rationality goes out of the window when supporting your team is a life long passion, possibly even more so if it’s your hometown club. I gave it 8, because I probably hoped it was an eight. seems ridiculous in hindsight.

We’ll agree to differ on that one.

Pretty sure it was his role to find a buyer.

There would more justification for a Semmens out thread, he is totally responsible for the position we find ourselves in, he has presided over this whole decline. Moneyball is on him, sports republic is on him, the transfer window debacle is on him I could go on, and on, but I don’t want this to taint any more of my Christmas break.

I firmly believe so.

I don’t know if you get to see him in the flesh? He’s an extremely lazy git in my opinion with average talent. I can see why people may think he has something, but having watched him closely I have no time for him.

It was only a reference to the 20 years ago part of the original post. Just checked out the 98 squad, we had some match winners and characters in that squad… MLT, Beatts, Claus, Monkou, Mardsen, Dodd, and so on… I don’t believe we have the comparable match winners and strong characters in this bunch. I’m hoping between NJ and the transfer window that changes.

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I don't knock your positivity, but in those "great escape seasons" we had game changing players and we had players with character. This is the worst all round Saints team i can recall. See below for our squad 20 years ago No. Pos. Name League FA Cup League Cup Total Discipline Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals 1 GK Paul Jones 13+1 0 1+1 0 0 0 14+2 0 0 0 2 DF Jason Dodd 13+2 0 1+1 0 2 0 16+3 0 1 0 3 DF Wayne Bridge 34 1 4 0 2 0 40 1 6 0 4 MF Chris Marsden 30 1 6+1 1 2 1 38+1 3 11 0 5 DF Claus Lundekvam 33 0 6 0 2 0 41 0 0 0 6 DF Paul Williams 10+2 0 1 0 0 0 11+2 0 3 1 7 MF Andrei Kanchelskis 0+1 0 0 0 0+1 0 0+2 0 0 0 8 MF Matthew Oakley 28+3 0 7 2 2 0 40 2 2 0 9 FW James Beattie 35+3 23 7 1 2 0 44+3 24 6 0 10 FW Kevin Davies 1+8 1 0+4 1 0 0 1+12 2 0 0 11 DF Michael Svensson 33+1 2 7 1 2 1 42+1 4 5 1 12 MF Anders Svensson 26+7 2 6+1 2 1 0 33+8 4 3 0 13 GK Neil Moss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 GK Antti Niemi 25 0 6 0 2 0 33 0 0 0 15 DF Francis Benali 2 0 2 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 16 MF Mark Draper 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 FW Marian Pahars 5+4 1 0 0 0+1 0 5+5 1 2 1 18 MF Rory Delap 22+2 0 3+1 0 1+1 0 26+4 0 2 0 19 DF Danny Higginbotham 3+6 0 1 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 DF Marcus Hall 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 MF David Prutton 9+3 0 0 0 0 0 9+3 0 2 0 MF Tahar El Khalej 0+1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 21 FW Jo Tessem 9+18 2 2+5 2 0+1 0 11+24 4 0 0 22 MF Federico Arias 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 MF Arron Davies 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 25 DF Garry Monk 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 26 MF Imants Bleidelis 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 27 GK Scott Bevan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 28 GK Alan Blayney 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 29 MF Fabrice Fernandes 35+2 3 5+2 0 1 1 41+4 4 4 0 30 FW Scott McDonald 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 32 DF Chris Baird 1+2 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 33 DF Paul Telfer 26+6 0 6 0 1 0 33+6 0 4 0 34 FW Agustín Delgado 2+4 1 0 0 1 1 3+4 2 0 0 35 MF Cléber Chalá 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 FW Brett Ormerod 22+9 5 5+2 1 1 3 28+11 9 4 0

Your probably right, showboating would be out of character for him, its a shame, he look crushed immediately afterwards, if only he'd take his chances earlier.

We do seem a bit collectively broken, hardly surprising given the steady decline , that's why a prefer away games, much more positive atmosphere from our supporters.

The thing is, he could have had a hat-trick if he'd hit it on the first or second opportunity, it seemed he was showboating.

I think Aribo is a complete dud.

It reminded me of a lethargic early pre season game, which in some ways it was, the difference is the opposition were fully up to speed.

I wouldn’t read too much into that game, a very rusty Saints side who haven’t played for weeks with a new manager who is only just getting to know his players. We know we need to invest heavily.

On the upside, I couldn’t be bothered to go, so here I am, sitting comfortably in my reclining chair, contemplating a drink of something alcoholic before retiring to bed. Thereby avoiding a half hour walk to the car and a traffic jam on Millbrook road. You see, there is always a positive that can be taken.

Hope your arse gets better soon

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Well they need to make up their minds, i was told i'm not allowed to get my winkie out at football anymore in no uncertain terms, so if it's OK for women to expose themselves I demand the right to be treated equally, furthermore I insist they lift the "order"

I love the way Croatia play through midfield but I don’t see them scoring.