Fan The Flames

I don't think that is the case the debt is underwritten by Bloom but the club is paying it back.

Yes, he's exactly the strike partner Phil Boyer needs.

Yes you are the only one.

He had thick hair for and old guy.

It's nil nil so was it disallowed?

The buzz stopped the day Koeman eyes started to wander.

You are so confused. You weren't judging people on the amount of noise they made, but on whether their lack of protest gave tacit support to the management team. You said they were prolonging our current position, which is ********. The problems we have is down to MP, Reed, Kruger and Gao nothing to do with any fans you old fool.

'Fans like you that are encouraging the sleep walk with your false positivity' is of course blaming those fans, he loves to point the finger.

Is the club in a better position now then when ML took over, yes but that's no test as we were on our knees. Is the club in a better position now than take over day minus 5 years, yes. We have had a series of decent finishes, cup final, most expensive wage bill, most expensive squad, over hauled the training facilities. We are having a sit season because we have a **** manager, but we are far from being systematically destroyed.

Another **** blaming the fans.

Well Clattenburg knows **** all, well that's no surprise. VAR is used to check every goal regardless, it had nothing to do with whether it was a clear and obvious error.

We do seem to be not as fit, but when you are a **** manager its difficult to get the lads working harder and in some cases they may be allowed to slack off in a desperate ill-fated attempt by the manager to boost his authority.

This isn't a thread about what you want to happen. You would be creaming yourself, imagine all the moaning and whinging you could do then. For me it's FA Cup.

I responded to you saying you weren't whinging when clearly you were, you are now. Maybe you don't realise you are doing It, do people groan when you walk into a room? Likewise you may feel justified in moaning which is fine, just don't claim you are not.

How about this bit You thick berk.

Well his career is, I know it's not the done thing to have any sympathy for footballers, but I would suggest having his footballing career cut short at 26 is horrendous for the lad.

I'm not disagreeing with you just pointing out the line between success and failure is small. But also that some of the failure is down to the players. The board obviously agreed if the rumours are to be believed that he was sacked for other reasons.

Imagine the moaning if we didn't but him after we were linked with him, the football elite on here would have elevated him to a player we should not had let go, people would have been saying Les should have thrown some money at it etc. We get him in after being forced to throw some money at it and now people are moaning we paid too much, Les had his pants taken down whah whah whah. So many contrarians and wannabe contrarians on this forum. We also have the classic he would be ok if we paid £5m for him, what the **** is that all about. So you think he is not good enough but you would be ok with him bringing his 'limited abilities' to the squad if he was cheaper. Makes no sense. Only time will tell if he is good enough, three games isn't enough.

And a had a Yoshida header in the dying minutes of the last game gone in we would have got through the group stages. Also VVD missed at least three easy chances in the group stages, had one of them gone in we would have got through. Fine lines.

It would be better if the fan base didn't get so narked about every thing, after all as grown men, they should have control of their emotions.

Falling out with Lawrie Mac Sacking Chris Nicholl too early Sacking Branfoot too late Failing to replace Shearer Failing to value Matt Le Tissier Staying at The Dell too long The reverse take over The PLC years of neglect The focus on radio stations and catering The return of Lowe The yacht slipping anchor The death of Liebherr The inertia whilst the club was up for sale The lack of investment in the academy cosches The change in football style with out the right change in players Basically it all stems from not bring invited into Division Two when it was formed if we had been we would have got up to the top flight earlier and we would now be a footballing powerhouse. The best club in the South ignored by the northern ****s and left playing catch up ever since.

Or, seeing as you introduced the point, you could explain why you think he is.

That's a non sequitur argument. Both facts, they acted because of the fans last time and they are ignoring them this time, could be true. It could be a case that they are ignoring the fans this because they implemented their wishes last time.

I voted for him to stay. I think he is out of his depth but I hope that we stay up and get rid of him in the summer, when there will be a better selection of managers to choose from. Unless we bring in an out of work manager, the disruption of chasing an in work manager in the protracted way we do deals will be worse than sticking with MP and we have no natural caretaker manager. So the club would have to go for an out of work manager and that pool is small. There was talk from Gao that there are changes coming in the summer, I've taken that to mean changes to the behind the scenes structure and even to Reed. Thats the time to bring in a new manager. I also think that SFC believe that by changing the manager too often it sets up a culture where players can stop playing for a manager at any time and a cycle of this happens, like Chelsea; now I don't know whether I subscribe to this theory but they have obviously got a reason to believe this and they have access to greater brains than mine. It's a fine line but I think the chance has gone and in balance the risk imo is slightly higher in getting rid of him. So we plough on and hope we get to the summer still in the prem.

What can the FA do, both sides are adamant that something different was said so the FA can not make a judgement. So the case has to be heard by an independent body and the only way to do that is to charge JR. What are all the cases you refer to where the authorities have pursued something they would not have, had the case not involved racism. What are you trying to infer. The FA completely cocked up the Aluko incident and this is the first one since then so they have to do it properly.