Matthew Le God

It becomes self fueling then and a snowball effect ensues. Someone reads a rumour on a site, they talk about it, the Echo report this chatter, someone sees it in the Echo and they talk about it and post it on another site, the Echo sees this and passes comment and on and on... As for using opinions of the readership it is nearly as bad as Sky and BBC news using viewers comments in news items and then using the views section as a news story itself. Why does the Echo continue to use the unelected voice of the fans like the Saints Trust and SISA - a tiny % of the fanbase. I find it hard to believe their representative even consult their small memberbase on views before providing quotes. Let alone the voice of all Saints fans. The Echo today used quotes from one Saints fan who happened to be in the SISA as the foundation to nearly an entire article. That isn't "news". That is the opinion of an opinionated fan bloated out to make a story. I'm as you can see an opinionated fan. You wouldn't use my views as the basis of a story would you? (awaits tomorrow's Echo headline )

I won't be coming in as I see little point. I'd be treated like a work experience kid and also many in the office would be aware of the reason I was there and it would be extremely awkward. The output gives me a good idea of the input, GIGO.

Yes, in tabloids to shift papers and increase circulation. You don't see it so much in the broadsheets unless they are a little more confident that it is true. I would like the Echo to be more of a local broadsheet than a local paper that acts like a tabloid.

This is a newspaper where none of the journalists know what the word ironic means and use the term in nearly every Saints related article. How professional, university trained journalists don't know this I don't know! For example... It is not ironic that Morgan Schneiderlin was going to be playing for France vs Denmark last night against the keeper that he scored against for Saints when they played Bristol Rovers. Merely a coincidence at best. Nor is it ironic if a player scores against a former club. Admittedly it is not just the Echo that do this and it seems to cover most of the national press.

I'd rather have fewer pages of actual news than a paper bloated out by idle unsubstantiated gossip.

Doesn't explain my other questions. Also doesn't say where the speculation come from in the article. Unfounded speculation without source or quote yet again. Basically column filling with the unfounded speculation from non specified sources has got to make you think what they teach them on university journalism courses. Anyone can write an article that says "there is speculation that..." Justifying that is a different matter and is what journalist should do but most don't. Charlie Brooker sums them up well.

That rule won't apply in this case. It is only for those going into admin between the end of the Prem season and the AGM of the Football League in June.

What ever happened to the Popular Front of Southampton?

He said "marketing" not kit design/colour! i.e. the use of an old photo with David Weir blended in wearing the 10/11 Rangers shirt which also reflects Rangers history.

Maybe take our 10% to 15% out of a Surman transfer fee.

Then why is Simon Francis on the list? The Sky Sports article clicking his name links to makes no reference to Southampton. There was however a thread on this forum where it was merely suggested that Saints "may" be the club. If you click on Mike Grella the source is a Leeds forum. So they clearly forums have been used so you can't deny you don't use forums. Where have the Luke Varney, Lee Trundle, Jamie Ward, Darcey Blake, Danny Ings rumours come from as there are no sources provided for these? Where did the "speculation for the £125 season tickets" come from in an article today? Was it the thread on here where I merely used it as a discussion point and said I thought it very unlikely to happen or even this thread?

Have they broken this? 16.1 All Clubs shall keep their financial records in accordance with the provisions of The Football Association Rules and the Executive may arrange for an inspection of all such books. and this? 16.2 All Clubs must forward a copy of their audited Accounts and Balance Sheet to the Executive each year, not later than ten months from the end of the Club’s financial year. They may have sent them but they sure weren't accurate!

The Premier League would have no say in the matter apart from passing on any evidence to the Football League for them to make a judgement. Different governing bodies.

I wonder if they bit about £125 tickets is based on my thread? In which I made it quite clear I didn't think it would happen but just raised it as a discussion point. Do discussions on here really deserve being reported in the cities press? They use rumours from this site to add to their Saints transfer article even if they are completely unfounded.

Different governing bodies. (You also don't know what the Football League will do in the summer)

Or Shirley

Of course Saints did. If not Saints wouldn't have started on -10, it would be a lot more in the way of points deducted ala Rotherham, Bournemouth & Leeds or not at all and just thrown out.

Two clicks, like I said will get you to the match. Also doesn't explain why you didn't post your link in this thread to give it a bump.

I see no reason why you didn't just add your post to this thread and give it a bump. You can get to it from here quite easily with two clicks and the fixture list is in the opening post...

French equalise 1-1

But this thread already had all the information in the opening post so maybe yours wasn't needed. No point starting a thread for every game in the tournament when there is already a 60 post thread about the subject. Anyway lets forget that and enjoy a Schneiderlin hatrick.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22619

Semi-final match on Eurosport now. Schneiderlin starts.

Have some self control and financial responsibility like the rest of us then.

What does that have to do with saying... "Not naming any names, but the club begins with B and ends in X"? You might aswell say "Bordeaux may be interested along with others" rather than playing word games.