Matthew Le God

We had a circa £30m net spend bringing in 8 players, which was the 7th highest net spend in the whole of European football this summer. So wasn't that bad a summer.

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/180552-match-day-thread-southampton-vs-sheffield-wednesday/#entry4007953

They've announced that very early.

Well if he is really on £90k p/w, that helps me in my never ending "debates" with Kraken, Turkish etc with the scale of the resources and ambition behind Saints. From the 135 minutes in a Saints shirt that Ramirez has played so far he looks to be an extremely talented player.

Why did you complain? This has been in place for some time, so isn't really a shock. All you had to do was pay in cash and you wouldn't be charged the booking fee.

I didn't "move the goalposts", my original point would be that there would be very few if any 21 year olds in world football that would be on £90k p/w. I asked which players might be on such wages. All people have done is support my point by naming very few players, and those they have are playing for some of the biggest and richest clubs in the world and also in European competitions. Do you not think that Saints had little need to offer Ramirez anywhere near those kinds of figures considering we were the only team with a bid accepted? AN upgrade on his wages at Bologna, fee for joining, agent fee and the offer of Premier League football should suffice.

Not an error at all. I merely said "very few if any", not an uncommon phrase to use. Which therefore makes it even more unlikely they are paying someone £90k p/w.

That is an odd way of using the phrase "very few (if any)" out of context. My statement simply says there won't be many and there is the possibility it might be none at all. Finding a handful of examples does not make me wrong, it actually supports my statement, I merely said there is also the possibility there could be none, not that there definitely is none.

I said "very few (if any)", and given the mere handful of names listed, I appear to be right. Plus they are all at some of the world's biggest and richest clubs playing in European competitions.

All listing the handful of players from some of the world's biggest and richest clubs did is support my point that it is unlikely a player Southampton signed without competition from other bidders for £12m, would need to be offered anywhere near £90k p/w.

So no need to offer him huge money then, merely an upgrade on what he was getting at Bologna plus the offer of Premier League football would do.

So what point are you trying to make? All people are doing is listing a handful of players that play for some of the biggest and richest clubs in the world.

So you are comparing Ramirez to key players at Chelsea and Man Utd? Saints were the only team to bid for Ramirez and his wage at Bologna wasn't that great, simply no need for them to go so high above every other Saints player. Neymar's sponsorship deals are separate from his wages so not really relevant as the club isn't paying him for that, his sponsors are.

So a player that is a regular (and seemingly key player) for the European Champions and cost them £32 million, is on similar wages to a Southampton player that cost £12m? That is one example in the whole of world football then (I won't count Neymar as Santos won't be paying him anywhere near £90k p/w).

A Brazilian club paying £90,000 per week to one player? Really?

Which other 21 year olds in world football do you think are on £90k p/w or more?

I think that is extremely unlikely. Very few 21 year olds (if any) in world football would be on £90k p/w. We simply had no need to offer him that much, he wasn't on a big wage at Bologna and we were the only team that bid for him, so no wage race started. £35k p/w before tax would be my guess.

Paul Telfer (Coventry, Saints, Celtic)

1998, 2010, 2012 When were the others? In the 70's and 80's? It is hard to find a Pompey fan that can explain the differences... - Currently Portsmouth Football club is legally in administration and Pompey's parent company is also currently legally in administration. - Southampton Football club has never legally been in administration, Saints' parent company was legally in administration in 2009.

It hasn't been announced.

The one that is bizarre is spelling Kelvin Davis - Kelvin Davies. He has been here 6 years ffs.

You say Hooivelt, everyone else says Hooiveld, lets call the whole thing off.

If this was a Championship game vs Sheffield Wednesday, would you be happy with that defence? Okay to play something like that vs Stevenage in the previous round, but I think we'd need to put out a stronger back four against Sheffield Wednesday. In any case, Jack Stephens is with the England under 19 squad and isn't available. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/jack-calum-set-for-england-duty-379234.aspx