VectisSaint

You'd think with a woman in charge we could multi-task.

#****shappening #ourdreamisreallynotwhatitusedtobe

Guess you missed the smiley then Still, there is truth in what I said.

Edson Arantes do Nascimento or the one from the Cape Verde Islands. If its the former then your acquaintance knows nothing about football. Still he is getting on a bit these days and does have trouble with "keepy uppy" allegedly (Pele not your acquaintance)

Where's Wally's Dad?

Well they've certainly gone somewhere. Vacancies galore on the OS, Marketing manager, club photographer, etc etc. No players, no staff, no board, things looking good right now :-)

Still trying to find a member of the Board and a watch

Why is this a nonsense. It is clearly true, KL and her merry men do not have the ambition of ML/NC. That is why NC is no longer here. It is completely obvious. Perhaps KL's ambition is acceptable in the long term, but it is not the same ambition. Lovren has made it clear he does not know who is in charge, who is running the show now? Les Reed? Fine. But who is taking the lead in the way NC did? KL, no, she has already stated that she is non-exec. Ralph? Nowhere to be seen, maybe not even working for us full time. Big Ron is a great new manager and has a fine coaching team, but he is not running the club, and not driving it forward in whatever direction KL wants to take. That's not his job. So we are left with a Board who are seen as ineffectual, and managers and players are reacting - of course its easy for them to react when so many of them were coveted by big teams for mega bucks, but nevertheless it is a reaction based on the lack of direction and reduced ambition. But don't worry, everything will be fine. Of course the sky is not falling in. But to continue to bury heads in the sand is ridiculous when we are so clearly in a lot of trouble, having lost 4 players already, another two likely to go, our only striker out till December, and all that on top of us having the smallest squad in the League at the end of last season. 5 weeks or so until the start of the season and we would be struggling to put a team out without resorting to players from the Academy who have not played yet. Oh and I forgot Osvaldo either still being here or calling in sick (when he isn't), oh and very strange behaviour from our only decent keeper who decides to get married and presumably have a honeymoon when he should be back training. I guess this will be seen as being a bed wetter (by the immature on here who can think of nothing more sensible to say), whereas in reality it is just taking stock of the situation and realising that currently the Club is a bit of a shambles.

It wasn't the players that we had that were not good enough, it was the players that we didn't have that meant that when the players we had were not available we had no-one to fill in that was adequate. Cover for Boruc (especially), Lovren (i.e Hooiveld), Wanyama/Spiderman/Cork, Lallana and Lambert was poor, and when several of them were unavailable at the same time we were found out (the fact that it all coincided with our difficult fixtures didn't help either). On their day our 1st XI was top 6 or even top 4.

To me, the interesting things that have come out from Lovren today are "the Club now lacks ambition" and also tellingly "I don't know who is in charge". Do we still have a Board that is doing anything, other than Uncle Les? When was the last time we heard anything from the Hockey Coach, or the Financial guy from Germany (who seems to have disappeared from the face of the Earth) or even KL for that matter. Koeman can try to attract players, but in the end he doesn't pay the money, that's down to the Board, who seem to have gotten into something frankly thy don't understand. Things are certainly becoming clearer why we are in the position we are now.

As there are "no financial difficulties" why is that an example of why Cortese had to go. More likely an example that the new Board, in particular the Financial Director who has not been seen or heard of since didn't know what he was talking about and helped cause a lot of the difficulties by his crassly stupid comment. Cortese "had to go" because the new owner would not or could not match his ambition and would not sell to a new owner that possibly could.

There have. Either up the investment level to push on, mainly by adding strength in depth, or as NC saw as Plan B sell to a consortium that was willing to invest more. The Club went for Plan C, keep things tight and self sustaining. Plan C was not the worst decision in the world but it did end the drdeam.

Nope, you're right we got nowhere near it, at the first attempt. We weren't really 2nd in PL before we Played Arse and Boruc broke his hand, and we then had a major injury crisis. What happened was that we were fund out for not having enough strength indepth. I don't believe for one minute we would have finished 2nd, but with more depth, including a decent backup keeper, we could probably have made 5th or 6th. Our first choice XI was good enough, but 11 players do not a European qualification make. But were we really so far off as you would have us believe. No. Remember where Man City were in 1999. Remember when Chelsea were no-hopers? Money can make a difference and if NC had had his way and either persuaded KL to invest more or sold to another nacker, the dream was not so far off. The reason it has all gone tits up is because KL did not have the ambition of her father. I hold no grudge against her for that, but clearly a different way forward was to sell and that is what NC had as a master plan if she would not up the stakes. Clearly he misjudged her, and we are now where we are.

Think its disappointing to have returned to the stripes. How will our players completely prepare themselves for their moves to big clubs in the future if we play in kit which is so distinctive to Liverpool or Arsenal or Manure. Negative step for me. Nah, actually it looks good, although I really don't like the socks.

Its just a number, who gives a toss who gets it? No 7 will always be Painer to me anyway.

Steve Davis

EA Sports and Carling

There are remarkable similarities between their training ground and ours. Don't think he'll join us because of our excellent training facilities.

This is actually what is more interesting. What has happened at the Club to make so many players apparently disgruntled where before they (gave the appearance of being) a tight-knit bunch. This isn't just down to wanting to play for better clubs at a higher level, something happened at the Club that turned everything sour. Clearly something to do with the change of leadership.

I don't think it was meant as an indictment of the individual players. But it is the way to go in the future, only recruit international players who play for no-hope teams (in terms of getting to major finals), such as Kenya, Serbia, NornIreland, Scotland, Wales, Poland. The exception to this rule is England, no hopers but don't recruit otherwise they will get tapped up by Stevie Geeeeeeeee.

What else is there to not be quiet other than "the Media"? Unless you have a personal direct conversation with Lovren maybe. How else would you know if anything is being said?

Makes me laugh that Buttner said he left Manure and joined Moscow (not sure which variety) to get CL football.

Perhaps we could have a whip round and place an ad like this in the Liverpool Sun, or whatever their local rag is called.

A reminder of how threadbare the squad really is. Will probs be made captain seeing as how he is Dutch.

Dunno, looks a little pale. He could have been sickening for something.