VectisSaint

Agreed. The only point I was really trying to make was that 19C is a total hypocrite in his lambasting of MLT on moral grounds, when compared to his undying support of other people who have no morals whatsoever. In fact, not being a "fan" of MLT myself (I am too old to think of players in this way any more, Channon was my hero, I am from a previous generation) I never regarded him in a partiularly high moral way at all. His personal life has some shady areas (marriages etc), his previous business dealings were none too glorious, and I always consider that even as a player he could have done so much more simply by trying to keep reasonably fit. That still does not detract from my view that he is one of our best ever players, and my acknowledgement that to a huge number of (younger) supporters he is revered as a demiGod (or even Le God). Like many other (most?) players of his era, as well as previous eras, and those that have come along since, Tiss has done some silly things. It goes with the territory of being a well paid sports star with lots of free time on hi hands. I always admired George Best, and really didn't give a damn about his off-field antics, but I always felt a little sad that like so many other geniuses his genius was somewhat tainted and we could have seen more than we did of his great skills. Mick C was no angel (thank goodness), that was part of his charm and what made him a great character. So, for me MLT is a bt of a fool for letting this slip, but I don't think much les of him for what he did, and at least he has been honest about it, even if the intelligent thing may have been to have kept stum. But what I can't stand is a hypocrite like 19C passing judgement of any sort on morals.

Our one (sort of) successful season (if you consider 6th place with the best squad in the League successful) was largely the result of having one of the best assistant managers around supporting the ailing manager. Snodin leaves, Burley reverts to being **** poor again. Our players were so unfit after half a season under Burley without Snodin that it was shameful, and made the turnaround under Pearson all the more remarkable. Fat players with no confidence and 9 games to keep us up. Thank goodness the Jocks came and took Burley before we were totally screwed and even paid us for the privilege. Burley's reputation is based on some success many years ago. He was a has-been when he joined us.

Did't see your post. It does highlight one of the down sides of the way policing is organised in this country with local, county based police forces with local interests. There is of course no evidence that the police officer in charge is a Skate, but the possibility is always there. Issues such as this ought to be investigated by a neutral force.

Hypocrite. How can you say you hold someone's moral code to be more important that their ability in this case, and then defend Lowe in other arguments. Lowe has/had no morals whatsoever, as demonstrated time after time, yet you put him on a pedestal and laud all he ever did with no scruples at all. This is why no-one really can take you seriously.

Wonder if the officer in charge is a Skate?

I think we might sneak this one 2-1. Stats would suggest that Charlton will not win 7 games on the trot. Would take a draw though.

You really do spout some drivel, and it is clear that you are not an SFC supporter of any kind. I don't know why I bothered to take the time to reply to your troll posts, but somehow it seemed the right thing to do. You write nonsense, others feel the need to put the record straight.

Seems the most likely person to have defaced the board is Lowe himself, probably did it just before exiting with his tail firmly between his legs.Sort of cheap trick the asshole would pull, as he had no regard for our history. More interestingly what is the answer to the questioin about the most youth caps. far more newsworthy and relevant.

Seems to me to be a sad indictment of the quality of Swedish football if Anders gets to 100 caps. Overrated non-performer for Saints IMHO. Still good luck to him, always seemed like a nice guy.

Never thought Coppell would come to Saints, still holds a grudge from 76

Simple, at the moment he should either be in the reserves or loaned out to a League 2 side. He is one of those unfortunate young players who was made a star before he actually achieved very much. He will be good one day, but first he has to learn basic stuff like delivering an end product, in terms of a pass to a team mate, or a decent strike on goal. It is the danger of introducing players too soon. Drop him, give him the shock he needs that he is not invincible, then gradually reintroduce him when he got himself a decent haircut.

OK, stop it right there, this thread is just getting silly.

If WD has half the impact that Snodin had then we will soon be flying, Snodin, the man that almost made Burley look reasonable...

Good to see we are toughening up, anyone with War Department on their training kit must be a bonus

Nice post ART, good that someone could put some of the stuff in a bit of perspective. By the way, is there anything in this link of Camara with Saints, or are we (mostly) all just dreaming that a creative and gifted player like HC in the twilight of his career could actually come back to SFC for one last hurrah?

Pardew mentioned it before the transfer window closed. He stated clearly that there were too many players even to coach. Sounded like he was about to ship several of the younger players out on loan, but apart from Poke it never happened. I would be surprised if a few do not go on loan starting this week as the loan window will be open.

LOL. How many times did the pensioner actually play? Crocked player bought by drunken George when after he was injured at Derby

Funnily enough I think you will be proved right, it is very unusual for any team in the English leagues to win 7 games on the bounce, I expect Charlton to come unstuck next week (and Leeds) and we will at least get a draw. Just need to mark Jay Sam out of the game and we will be OK.

True, it is at least as good as L1

Can only assume you didn't see him play against Millwall where he was our best player. He needs to be played in his best position, up with the other CF, playing close but just off him. He has the ability to hold the ball up which is more than Lallana can do. Unfortunately after that game he has been played in different positions where he does not fit in.

First thing Pardew has to instill in the players is to stop playing hoof ball. We need to play the ball out, and make sure we keep possession. I didn't see the game today but was exasperated by the number of times Solent commentary repeated that Davis had lumped the ball down the middle. The GK has a huge responsibility in this, I am not KD's greatest fan, I think he is one of the best when it comes to stopping shots, but his distribution is very poor (as is his positioning for corners). It was the only criticism I used to level at Niemi as well. Stop pumping the ball down the middle, and get the ball out to the full backs to play the ball forward more often. Of course mix it up, so that once you have drawn their forwards to our full backs then go long again, the element of surprise is important. But lumping the ball down the middle every time is a useless tactic, at best you could expect us to win possession 50%, in practice because our player has his back to the ball it is more like 75/25 to the defenders. Of course KD is not the only culprit, our central defenders do the same. The good thing I heard yesterday was that Thomas was getting forward well down the wing in the first half.

Depends, we weren't very often in the bottom half of Div3 South, although I am sure there were some times that we were. The comparison is perfectly fair.

Better yet, forget playing him at all. He needs a spell in the reserves. No end product, no good having a box to box midfielder that cannot pass to a team mate. I would expect AL to be one of the causalties when we have our full team available.

Do you know if he was offered a chance to stay? I doubt Herr Lowe would have ratified it following relegation. I agree that he did not relish a drop down to a lower division as I said, hence he left Wolves. But that was 5 years ago, and he is now getting on a bit. Personally if there was any legs in this story (and I doubt there is) then we should bend over backwards to get him to sign. One of the most exciting players to grace SMS for Saints ever.

What would you have changed? Thats just about the best team we have. The only change I would make would be Mills for Lallana, but given Mills is returning from injury I think AP is sensible not to start him. Would have preferred to see Gillett on the bench.