Guan 2.0

Well it's a report that seemingly contradicts everything we've heard so far, even Solent were told by Markus's representatives that he didn't come to the last game of 09/10 because he was so disappointed. In fact, it reads like a badly researched heap of old boys network bull****.

**** a players wife and start a fight at staplewood.

Quite right too. Did we not lose home AND away to Swindon last season in some awful ?(thanks to others for the idea of CAPS). Yes, it's disappointing to be out of the cup, but promotion, and appointing our new manager are the priority. No one knows why Pardew was sacked, but until we know it's no use labelling Cortese or Pardew as demons or angels, because speculation does not make evidence! A lot of posters on here, and our fans in general, forget that. But hey, lets demand the head of someone who's not only been a successful businessman for a number of years (way beyond the accomplishments of any poster on here), was the hand picked man of our saviour, and according to Solent, the soothing voice that stopped Markus from firing AP's Arse when he was too dissapointed to show for the last game of the season. I would have thought that the posts above, talking of marches to demand Cortese to leave would be avoided, after our recent history. When it was said 'Anyone but Lowe' and 'It can't get any worse', and then did, I thought the short sighted reactions would be tempered by that knowledge. Surely no-one would dismiss the possibility of Cortese, Markus's millions, and our future leaving as a trivial matter, based on an irrational grudge via a few assumptions about a man whose true personality is barely known to us? Especially not in a hissy fit of childish name calling... Oh dear. [video=youtube;35TbGjt-weA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA

You used CAPS LOCK at different points to type and emphasise select words and phrases. It must be true. Oh, and just so you know, 'Dictatorship' wasn't originally the lazy pejorative it is today, but a description of an individual led system of rule, with rules, regulations and accountability. But I'm sure you already knew that, and didn't just give some throwaway comment in an attempt to link the chairman with fascism. HTH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWs9aNmLnwg&feature=related How CB Fry deals with those who disagree with him?

Hmm, not sure on this one. While at times we looked like playing good passing football, we too often struggled against ordinary sides. While this may be the 'disaster that costs us the season' as some are claiming, I'll wait a while to comment in full, as this may be in hindsight the move that secures promotion, runaway success etc. But we'll have to wait and see not only who is appointed, but the results that they accrue despite any 'reputation', before judgement is passed. But serious LOLgasm at the result before the announcement. You'd have thought that Some of our dearly departed owners Swiss timing would have rubbed off on him.

Ans Yay, the Lord send did send a lowly earthworm to comfort Moses in his torment

Alcohol leads to repetition once more...

The Queen accent is actually very different from received Pronunciation, FACT. Professor John Honey is a bit of an expert on these matters.

How appropriate that there is a 'FANCY A POLISH GIRLFRIEND IN THE UK' ad at the top of the page. But yes, there is a deliberate piece of misdirection on the Daily Mail's part, but you don't expect anything else from the official paper of the outer party.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Pompey-administrator-is-39worried39-at.6490744.jp Pompey administrator is 'worried' at new bid to takeover the club Andrew Andronikou says he is still waiting for Tom Lever to deposit £16m into a bank account to prove he is serious about taking over the Fratton Park club. But sources close to Mr Lever told The News the delay is because the administrators still have to supply him with due diligence reports Mr Lever's camp has indicated to The News Portsmouth City Council has been supportive of their bid and they believe it is possible that a deal for the club could be wrapped up before the weekend Lolgasm at AA having a heart attack, seeing as it's possible the man he's been (not so) Secretly working for might have his plans ruined....

Pardew becomes catatonic after a waking dream in which he imagines the fabled 'Plan C'. The club looks to the internet to name his stand in, and Chris Marsden is brought in to steady the ship, the fans base this on him having the nickname of 'football genius' However, despite being on course to achive promotion as champions, there is widespread unrest due to the quality of matchday service. As a result, all football topics are banned, and the saintsweb forum becomes an endless loop of 'How was the beer', 'queues in the northam' and 'where are these posters now' topics. As a result of the press boycott and lack of forum posts, the official site becomes the only outlet for news, and crashes under the demand. Therfore no-one knows which position we are in the league, only that Puncheon was not very good against whatever opposition we were playing.

We will walk this unnamed league 1 club FFS, WIFM.

We need more goals - Maybe we could go in for Craig Bellamy? Oh, that's already been done...

We will walk this poor start to the campaign. On a serious note Barnard, the 'Brett Omerod but with goals' Can't score for toffee for quite some time now. Looks lively, and is one of my favourite players. But maybe needs more encouragement/man management?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly didn't know Markus Personally. However, I do feel a sense of Gratitude towards the man, and feel it is only appropiate to have a period of time to honour the man. I'm slightly old school in the sense that I think Black armbands/Minutes Silence (not a minutes applause, 90 minutes of applause after the silence. Says something if people can't keep quiet for a minute), but I can compherend that people want to show their gratitude and resepect in other ways, such as laying shirts, crying by the statue etc, even if it is a million miles away from what I would do. Although I would have thought going and winning on saturday would have been a personal tribute to remember, we have know way of knowing how this effects the upper echelons of the clubs team and executive management. In that spirit, I find it a bit unnecessary for some people to mention the whole Lady Di/Scouse grief. At least in this case, the man in question had a tangible connection to those paying reverence to him, in that he saved the club we all support. Now is not the time to question his motives or denigrate our fellow fans for the way they choose to show respect. And in fact, the response of some on here comes across as very 'cyber warrior', even if that is genuinely not the intent. There really is no need to write the equivelent of 'I'm not grieving because I didn't know him, and anyone who does is a pu55y'. After all, relatives and friends of Mr Liebherr may have come on to the forum to add/view the condolences of saints fans. It's about restraint and respect, and I'm sure whatever our viewpoint on postponements/levels of grief/costs incurred, we should be able to show that.

Obviously, Information is limited, and emotions are high. Perhaps just lock this topic for a week? After all, It's doubtful that any on here will have anymore information than Cortese et al. So instead of idle speculation, we can instead show a mark of Respect. IMO, of course.

Genuinely sad news. He came from to nowhere and rescued the club from the brink of extinction when the situation was at it's darkest, and seemingly asked for nothing in return. He gave the fans, both in and out of the city, a club they could be proud of, and instilled a new sense of not just hope, which can be dashed by any person whose dreams are outmatched by their means, but a true feeling of belief. He was as much a fan as any here, as Anyone at Wembley on the day of our Cup Triumph will testify, and I can only trust that The team, The management, and the fans can pull together to make his, and our, vision for the club a reality. Rest In Peace, Markus Liebherr.

Ahh, but ironically. any investagative Journo worth his salt (especially the likes of Nick Davies, who wrote flat earth news) would tell you that everyone has an agenda (which is why it's so laughable when during discussions, people often shout "HE HAS AN AGENDA" like they've cracked the Da Vinci code). Which is why when presenting their story after leaving the company of someone they are now 'dishing the dirt' on it's vital to take into account the possibility that defects of their personality/criticism of their performance has made them unable to realise/recognise the otherwise positive image/performance of those they are criticising. This is far from the 'Smoking Gun' evidence required. Now I'm not saying he is untrustworthy, just pointing out that it is far from 'proof'. But I think others have already covered this: For the record, I think this is a knee jerk reaction from print media, who a faced with the stark realisation that they must make cuts everyday due to the fact that they a) Operate a hopelessly outdated business model, and b) are in an industry that is dying on it's arse, and has already lost several publications. They resent internal change but have to live with it, and despise any measures seemingly taken against them from the outside. This is why they particularly chafe against this action, despite they themselves removing themselves (in the case of Newscorp) from newsaggregators (most notably newsnow) and attempting to make both the Sun and Times on-line subscription based, and limit the amount of people who can access and disseminate their 'product' whilst maximising revenue, whilst reporting on SFC with righteous condemnation for doing much the same thing! Cortsese has no doubt realised, through his earlier conflict with The Daily Echo, that this level of personalised criticism is part and parcel of tangling with the media in this country. And as a man who was hand picked for his experience for looking after, representing and taking decisions for the billionaires he represented, I doubt Markus will be calling him up to say: "sorry son, But the Sun have called you a Berk, and the Plymouth local has drawn a cartoon that's doing the round's. Pack your bag, old china, it's the dole queue for you!". Likewise, the papers need to realise this isn't Lobby Journalism, and there is no-one that needs re-electing. Petty Politicking won't work here.

You can buy tickets on the night, right?

I think if we are winning our matches/storming to the top of our division/going on cup runs (not saying this will happen, but putting more emphasis on the on-pitch performances) Then not only are we more likely to be attractive to sponsors as a successful team, but also more likely to be featured as broadcasted matches (another incentive to sponsor). IF we do achive this, I'm sure there will be more than one breakaway media group that 'realise the benefits of a revolutionary and mutually beneficial agreement for all parties involved, especially the Fans of Southampton Football club, and The readers of (Insert name here)'. Or Whatever PR ******** is spun on it. Annnnnd that's my last allotted post.

This reinforces it even more. "Southampton need all the publicity they can get while they fight their way back up the divisions". Err, actually no. With less publicity, the pressure's off and we can go about our business quietly and efficiently. But don't let that get in the way of a 5hit story, eh?

The club doesn't need the echo/sun or anybody really to sell tickets to matches. The Echo and to a a lesser degree the nationals need reports from the games to sell papers. This is the bottom line, and Cortese seems a man who is all about the bottom line. It's obvious that he wants the fans to use the official site instead (which one can argue is updated 24/7, see the half eleven signing for example) , rather than speculation and out of date 'news' in a paper.

As in refusing to show his hand, or not bringing it up?

Any reaction from Pardew so far?