Sheaf Saint

So I've cleared the Milan trip with the Mrs and found some cheap flights from Manchester. Just got to see if I can get a ticket through our company's corporate box now. All being well I'm off to see Saints at the San Siro

7pm local time (6pm UK time)

Group K it is then. With Inter and Sparta Prague. Brilliant draw that is! :-)

Ajax, Inter and Fiorentina all still possible for us then.

Where can I watch the draw live?

He can tell pals he wants to go all he likes, but if the club don't receive a worthy offer for him, or we can't find a suitable replacement before the window closes, he will have to just suck it up and honour the contract that he signed in good faith last year.

Does anybody actually know what the guy said though? He might have posted something potentially libellous against the owners for all we know, in which case this action doesn't seem quite so ridiculous.

Excellent news. He's going to be a key player for us this season I reckon.

Crazy that a player who has a tendency to go missing for 4 months during the winter can be classed as more consistent than anybody really.

OK, who had 26th July in the 'first proper meltdown' sweepstake?

Austin was signed as Pelle's replacement. We never intended to have all 5 of those players in the squad long-term. Rodriguez, in the form he was in before his ACL injury, is as good as- if not better than - Mane, in my opinion. Yes it is far from certain that he will get back to that form, but then Mane spent 4 months out of form last season, so it's swings and roundabouts.

His name is Ramadan, huh? Is he fast?

All of which only serves to prove that us being in L1 was a false position created by gross mismanagement in the first place.

Excellent news. He improved markedly over the second half of last season. With Pelle gone he will be a very important player for us this season. I just hope he will be working on his finishing over the summer, because he still fluffs far too many easy chances for my liking.

One one hand, you have an answer generated by centuries of scientific observation, arrived at by meticulous calculation requiring the most brilliant minds to do so. On the other hand, you have an answer written by a tribe of desert-dwelling goat herders who clearly didn't have even the slightest clue where the sun went at night. Anybody who tries to instill the latter into a child's head, on the understanding that he/she will suffer an eternity of pain and torture in the fires of hell if they don't accept it, is guilty of psychological abuse in my opinion.

Played a blinder tonight. Wasn't the captain but showed what a real leader he is. Really pleased for him. Get him on the banner now admins!

Seems like an excellent signing on the face of it. Could any of the forum's many Scandinavian residents give us an idea how we're supposed to pronounce his name please?

Yep. Nail on head. It was all about the oil. Saddam had decided that he wanted to be paid in Euros for his oil instead of the worthless dollars that the US were printing to pay for it beforehand. The very first thing that the post-war administration did after assuming power was to repeal the law stating that any decisions regarding the sale of the country's oil must be ratified by a democratic consensus. That tells you all you need to know.

Hmmm, let me think.... What would I do if another employer came along and offered me double my wages for less work? I'll have to give this some serious thought and get back to you

Here's a very interesting take on things, copied from somebody on Facebook.... If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost. Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron. With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership. How? Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor. And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew. The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction. The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50? Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders? Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated. If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act. The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice. When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take. All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-the-results-compare-to-the-uks-educated-old-an/ "According the polls, university graduates were the most likely people to want to remain in the EU - while those with a GCSE or equivalent as their highest qualification were more likely to back Brexit. This was a pattern that was reflected in the results." So, yes. More thickos voted to leave.

Yes, there were, I agree. The main players were just as bad as each other at spreading fear and mis-information. Just like in any general election really. But plenty of us were able to see through that and look for our own independent sources of information, rather than blindly accepting the rhetoric put forward by proven liars. And that's kind of my point. Most Remain supporters appeared to be able to recognise the positive benefits of remaining without relying on the propaganda, whereas an awful lot of leave supporters lapped it up.

Because I have been taking the time to read as much comment as I possibly can on social media over the last month or so, trying to gauge the consensus of why people would be voting the way they did. Not once have I seen anybody put forward a coherent economic argument in favour of leaving. I saw most passionate and vocal leave supporters were all spouting pretty much the same old ill-informed nonsense about us having no sovereignty and having to bow to every one of the EU's demands; trying to make out like we are nothing but slaves to an evil fascist dictatorship and completely ignorant of the actual facts of how the EU is run. I saw soooo many blatantly racist and bigoted comments - "Them bloody immigrants coming over 'ere and stealing our jobs", again completely oblivious to the fact that we will still be forced to accept free movement of its citizens if we want to benefit from a free trade agreement with the EU (that we will still have to pay a huge membership fee for, but have no say in how the organisation is run). I saw comment after comment after comment from people who believed the £350m a week figure, while completely ignoring anything we actually get in return and being totally unaware of the regional subsidies that will dry up as soon as we leave.

My problem is that huge numbers of those people had not the slightest idea exactly what they were voting for, what the actual benefits of membership are and what the consequences of leaving will be. Ignorant, politically illiterate f*cktards, who swallowed all the propaganda about stopping immigration and spending the £350m a week on the NHS, have steered us into economic disaster and we all lose. But hey, as long as 'we got our country back' and we can start buying bent bananas again, everything is rosy eh?

Clearly not. The BBC news team were interviewing people at the Moor market here in Sheffield earlier today. One woman talked about losing the steel industry in the 80s and needing to get something back so she voted out. FFS - the north will be well and truly shafted when we lose out on all the EU subsidies we used to get and have to rely on a Tory government (who were responsible for decimating the industries the north used to have in the first place) to bail us out. I'm trying to remain gracious about this and accept the will of the democratic process and all that, but seriously, the level of ignorance and outright stupidity I have seen come from the mouths of working class leave voters over the last 24 hours is sickening. They have all cut off their noses to spite their faces, and everybody loses as a result.