Micky

I think we've got the bit about who owns the stadium. So the club are just tennants - how long for...???

I'm well aware of that - he saw us as an attractive proposition. But we could just as easily have been bought by anybody else - given the predicament we were in (SISU anybody?). Either way, it's irrelevant to this particular argument.

Exactly - luckily for us. We became an attractive proposition after ML had bought us - we were staring at an abyss at the time - nothing like the WHU situation at all. While we had not a penny to scratch together they are looking at: "The £160m to £200m cost of converting the £429m stadium will be met largely from the public purse, including a £40m loan from Newham Council." So, what's that, circa £600m and whatever they can get for their old gaff.

We were in admin. ML took advantage of our situation. We could have been bought by the much maligned MLT consortium.

Believe me - nobody is struggling to grasp it at all.

We have - and it has no similarities to WHU whatsoever.

Exactly - the Leibherrs took advantage of us.

I was not bleating. I was highlighting the point that they would be a far better proposition to any potential investor. We paid what the finance company agreed for SMS - all parties were satisfied as far as I am aware, ergo we paid for our stadium.

Thanks for making it simple for me. I still disagree with you - our circumstances were not similar at all. I have grasped the principles as well - they are just different principles to the ones you apply.

We were in admin - West Ham are not.

I dont think we need a bigger stadium - nor do west ham.

No.

As I said - totally different circumstances. Totally dissimilar.

No I wouldn't - nor am I outraged now.

No we wouldnt - but we weren't - also we didnt get the council to build it for us.

I see you were careful. So grab a bargain while you can - even though you don't need it (but the council need somebody to keep the cobwebs out), flog your old place for a nice little earner - go play in a half empty stadium. Fookin brill.

Which at the time - was a good deal for all involved, the club, buyer and finance company. This has nothing to do with a club facing administration.

And so they bloody well should - for the rest of their tenancy. Let's see if they do though. BTW - I think you'll find that currently they struggle to fill their present ground. So they need to find a whole lot more fans (circa 20K) from somewhere. (You need to be very careful now)

I totally agree - they have. But that doesn't make it right in the scheme of things. They have been given a massive bonus over every other team in England. How much more attractive will WHU be to the next sugar daddy looking to get in on the premiership action...? What do you reckon...? Prem team, London based, lovely new stadium....

Super - 1 event, in 2017.

When you look at all of the hurdles other clubs have in building new stadiums - WHU have had it easy - honestly, they have. The rent, by premier league standards is peanuts. As for your analogy in regard to us and Bournemouth you might be correct - but just think about the fans of every other club in the country - it supports my view. Thank you.

Nope - they pay part of the conversion - a measly 15 million and 2 million rent a year. Peanuts when you think that Cov City were paying rent of 1.3 million a year in league 1. It will be interesting to see though, how many 'other events' are held in the stadium, because I don't think that they have exclusivity.

Because, like WHU, they too want to move to a new stadium.

Exactly what I said - and they shouldn't have to. The council should provide them with a stadium that meets their needs and at a rent that they can afford. They have done it for WHU, therefore they should provide the same service levels to all of their constituents.

It's not wrong if the council provided the same amenities and opportunities for all football clubs - unfortunately they don't. Hence the reason why a 'smaller' club may be forced to move it's operation away from the club that has benefited from this white elephant. Obviously I might have got that wrong, and Boris Johnson is planning to build yet another, more suited smaller, stadium and rent that to Leyton Orient at a knocked down rent, then moving on to the next football club in the borough.