Micky

No - share it. You know, in the spirit of the Olympics, as LOFC wants. Not drive them out of town. But whatever - joke of a club.

Why worry about LOFC - they are a joke of a club, non starter, too many egos. Far better rent it out to West Ham, proper club, David Gold, David Sullivan and Karen - no egos. All in the spirit of the Olympics of course.

Yep.

We will have to agree to disagree. As for stadium use - it will be interesting to see exactly what transpires. Lets be honest we'll get the athletics as you said, and the Rugby World Cup, maybe a few rock concerts - but what are the council really going to be able to use the stadium for, other than football.

Why are you comparing the £600m with what was paid for SMS? What has that got to do with anything? I think you've got a little confused with the Leyton Orient thing. They know they would never fill that stadium (it's unlikely that WHU will) - but again - that's not the point.

So moving into a state of the art stadium with the potential to add nearly 25k more customers is going to be readily available to lots of other clubs as well soon? I guess I'll leave it there. Latest I could find on the situation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21897902

Quite the opposite, quite the opposite.

Whose whining? A stadium costing circa £600m returning £2m a year to the owners. The point remains - WHU have received a massive financial boost from the council, the like of which most other clubs will never ever see. The potential to build on what they now have is massive - and they have been given it a very little cost to them in the scheme of things. I don't mind WHU renting the stadium - but I really don't think they are paying anywhere near the going rate. Other people and agencies have been completely overlooked, I'm particularly gutted for Leyton Orient, who wanted to ground share but appear to have been ignored and overrun by the 'big boys'. They may now be forced to move elsewhere.

I don't agree with you. It could just as easy have gone the other way.

I think we've got the bit about who owns the stadium. So the club are just tennants - how long for...???

I'm well aware of that - he saw us as an attractive proposition. But we could just as easily have been bought by anybody else - given the predicament we were in (SISU anybody?). Either way, it's irrelevant to this particular argument.

Exactly - luckily for us. We became an attractive proposition after ML had bought us - we were staring at an abyss at the time - nothing like the WHU situation at all. While we had not a penny to scratch together they are looking at: "The £160m to £200m cost of converting the £429m stadium will be met largely from the public purse, including a £40m loan from Newham Council." So, what's that, circa £600m and whatever they can get for their old gaff.

We were in admin. ML took advantage of our situation. We could have been bought by the much maligned MLT consortium.

Believe me - nobody is struggling to grasp it at all.

We have - and it has no similarities to WHU whatsoever.

Exactly - the Leibherrs took advantage of us.

I was not bleating. I was highlighting the point that they would be a far better proposition to any potential investor. We paid what the finance company agreed for SMS - all parties were satisfied as far as I am aware, ergo we paid for our stadium.

Thanks for making it simple for me. I still disagree with you - our circumstances were not similar at all. I have grasped the principles as well - they are just different principles to the ones you apply.

We were in admin - West Ham are not.

I dont think we need a bigger stadium - nor do west ham.

No.

As I said - totally different circumstances. Totally dissimilar.

No I wouldn't - nor am I outraged now.

No we wouldnt - but we weren't - also we didnt get the council to build it for us.

I see you were careful. So grab a bargain while you can - even though you don't need it (but the council need somebody to keep the cobwebs out), flog your old place for a nice little earner - go play in a half empty stadium. Fookin brill.