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You'd assume as they are proffesional footballers that is a given, surely?

Do you think she should be sacked or resign?

I disagree. If a player doesnt have the right sort of attitude and mental toughness on his debut where little is expected of them then he is going to struggle in the pressure cooker atmosphere of big games in the future. Debuts are generally a good marker of a players mental toughness and belief in themselves.

No i wouldn't i full agree with trousers comments that this country is full of hysterical tarts looking for racism when there isn't any and wanting to be offended at the slightest little thing. Alan Hansen having to apologise for saying coloured FFS!! You cant have one rule for whites and another for blacks when everyone is equal.

So as an MP and knowing this natons pathetic and over sensitive attitude to a "few clumsy word" it makes it even more foolish to risk outrage and offence. I quite agree with you by the way but we are where we are. You cant have one rule for white people and another for black people. We are all humans, all equal and it is a fact if a white person had said similar things there would be outcry.

Flip it round. If a white politician had said the same things about black people there would be uproar. We'd all be told how racism was alive and well in Britain, how disgraceful it is, Radio 5 would have an all day phone in with Black Community Leaders* phoning in about how this puts all their work back 40 years, this forum would be in melt down and so on. * why they need to be called Black Community Leaders and not just Community Leaders is beyond me.

You described "them" as white people, there is no such thing, only humans beings. Racist.

You are seeing skin colour Andy, not people. We are all the same, not a colour.

What are white people? Do you mean other human beings?

Facebook is dead, Twitter is the future.

I hope not, as we all know the Mail is a racist paper full of lies and bigotry. We dont want the paper running this story otherwise it will mean it isn't true.

Surely this post is sexist?

Dont be mental.

She cant be racist, only white people are racist.

It's a no from me. Us saints fans don't like players that are inconsistant. To play for us as a winger you Must be brilliant every week.

I am not defending Dune, he is more than capable of taking care of himself. Simply stating a fact.

They've already said they were given the opportunity to tell the Police what happened in return for a possible shorter sentance after conviction. If they come clean it won't effect their current sentence. I'd say it's probably the public radio 5 said one of the others had recently left his long term girlfriend for someone else. Hell have no fury on a woman scorned.

What you on about? It's entirely possible to do it without spending hundred of millions. All you need is a good academy and a decent manager, the rest just slots into place. An apart from all that, didn't they once day man would never climb Everest?

Saying he didn't think it was racially motivated doesnt make him racist.

I don't think you are in the position to take the moral high ground on anything fella.

No this was what you said. "Some of our resident racists" Plural, ie, more than one. Who else has said it wasn't a racist attack, who else have you dramtically labelled a resident racist? Come on, it should be easy, it's like shooting fish in a barrell.

My views on trial by media are on the opening posts of this as are my views on the sentEncing, guilt and what should happen to them. I have no wish to keep on repeating myself.

Correct, very funny.

I cant be arsed to trawl through your pages madman like pages of drivel to find the post where you used the Mail in support of one of your bizarre theories only weeks after dismissing them as a racist paper. However i did pull you up on it at the time and you resorted to your usual play groundlike finger pointing and name calling. And as per my comments above, you can clearly see my view on the sentances and convictions, it's in page 2 of this thread and due to your silly behaviour i'm not going to engage with you on this again on this subject you silly little man.

I haven't seen anyone say that, have you?