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We all see the game differently, I thought Pierre was our best palyer on the night, others thought he was terrible. However, for the goal, Davis runs away from the scorer back towards his own goal , picking up no-one. I'm not sure if it would have made much difference if he had gone towards the goalscorer, but he waqs the only threat and Davies ran away from him.

I thought Davis was poor last night, one run back to win the ball by our corner flag, and a run into box for the Sims cross aside. Redmond started ok, but makes the wrong decisions, and stops to think about it and Bertrand was poor as well. As a result, we had nothing going on on the left side in the 2nd half. I know there is good sports science beind the rotation, but some players seem to need to play every game or they lose their form. Romeou seems to have got worse lately after being rested. The next 3 games are crucial. If Long and Rodriguez can't register a goal between them while Austin is out I can't see how the club can sit idley by in January.

I didn't realise, until it was mentioned by the commentators in the Prague game, that Saints have hardly ever scored in the away legs in European competition. I have seen them score at Limerick, and in Arhnhem, but have drawn a blank in Hamburg, Bucharest and Milan. Have any other posters seen more goals ? ( I known my brother saw the score draw at the Veledrome in 76 ) ?

Could be a good fit for the squad, I don't think we have an academy right back who is ready yet. We could give him some games instead of Martina.

I think it was all post mcMenemy, and maybe even towards the end of Chris Nicholls time as manager. Higgins was dismissed by Saints and took pretty much all of his young players out of the Saints Youth set up and got them to other clubs. I think Higgins may also have advised Rod Wallace to leave as well.

Feared the worst when the Soccer Saturday team all backed us, and then when the commentator mentioned that they hadn't kept a clean sheet, and that that benteke hadn't scored at home. Still, we looked slightly the better side until that Forster howler, and then we don't mpick up at set peices again. Huffed and puffed, with everything coming through Boufal, who then gets taken off. How Redmond stayed on is a mystery, the same goes for Ward Prowse. Our midfiedl was awful today. No forward runs, and slow passing. Palace were on a bad run last December until they played us. Long Austin and Boufal to start on Thursday please.

Shearer had already come on a a sub at Oxford in a league game, and put one chance over the stand. Bale did not make his debut at Derby, but played twice towards the end of the season before. Steve Moran scor3ed with his first touch as a sub against Man City, so that's not bad, but for a debut, and a first start how about Graham Baker at home to Blackpool.

VVD had a poor game, needless free-kick given away for the goal and missed our best chance. McQueen was our best player, linked well with Redmond until Sparta shifted across and made us go down the right with Martina. I have seen Steve Baker have better games than Martina tonight. He often gets into a good postion, but his first touch kills momentum dead, and often makes him go backwards. He did the same in the 2nfd half at Inter, where he had so much space to attack. Not that that mattered in the end, as his crosssing was appalling. We reaally do need another right back in January. Apart from Yoshida, McQueen and Forster, I don't think anyone else can look themserlves in the mirror this morning. JayRod and Long need to play for the U23's to try and get some confidence. Long had a good run of scoring last season, but it turns out he was using all his goes at once. I saw him at the Euros where he looked clueless and out of his depth, and he looks the same ever since.

Careful. Referencing your own thread could set up a loop in the Saints Web Database, and make a hole in the Matrix.

No the Villa goal was his first goal , May 15th 1980, just checked Ducan's book. Good excuse to watch the West Brom goal again, as if you need one.

What about Ivan Golac, at home to Villa. Hammered from just outside the box, into the far top corner. It wasn't on TV, so you will have to take my word for it, but it was a genuine thunderbastard !

Got to the airport early just in case, but my flight to Bordeaux was on time. Getting off the plane a lady asked me if I had been to the game. Turns out that they had too, and the lived about 10km from our house in the middle of France. Got home before my train was due to leave Bordeaux, and even got a partial refund on my ticket!

Trains planes and automobiles for me. Being dropped off at Angouleme station, TGV to Bordeaux, bus to the airport, Easyjet to Milan (£48 return) and then train in from Maplense. The whole trip is still cheaper than coming back for a home game.

I lost interest in the england team after Keegan retired as a player. Since then I have been unable to relate to it because if the rejection of good players at unfashioanable clubs in favour of the likes of John Barnes, Ray Wilkins and the like who contribute nothing( John Barnes got something like 90 caps, on the back of that goal in Brazil, and 2 crosses in the defaet to Argentina. The times when I have got more investedhave been the tournaments when the shoe in's have got injured and the team has suddenly improved. In Mexico Hodge, Ried and Bracewell came in for Wilkins and Robson and England got to the QTR's. In Italy, John Barnes injury lead to a change in formation and then the Semi's. Since then, nothing, although I did wan't them to lose after the way Venables and Hoddle ignored Le Tiss. I did get excited when Rickie scored against Scotland, but that was still tempered by the way that Roy wouldn't put Lallana and Lambert on the pitch at the same time, despite thier understanding of each other's game. For Euro 2016 only 3 CD's were included in the squad, none of whom would get in the Saints defence. The latest squad includes a 30 plus Man Utd substitute as Captain, and Lingard, another forward who has managed to look very average in a mediocre Man United team. This obsession with the big 6 has not worked in the past 30 years. I would much prefer to see players like Davies at Hull, who has put in a season and a bit of good performances in a struggling team, but Smalling and Cahill are picked instead.

Saints played a low energy game, never pressing that much, just keeping their shape. Going forward, Targett was not pressing forward like Bertrand does, and Martina had a shocker on the other flank, 2 seconf half crosses aside. Redmond was ananymous and Long had a shocker. His confidence is so low at the moment that he seemed to be hiding from any half chances. His touch just on the final whistle summed him up to day, playing the ball behind himself, to the two men he was trying to beat. The midfield was solid though, Romeou was MOM by a mile, and Claiise was good too. Yoshida did ok, bar hsi casual cleareance that was belted wide, and VD was good, apart from missing an early sitter. All in all a decent point.

MOM the whole lot of them. Great performance allround, good team shape. Two DM's is so last year !

Thre is a greaqt podcast interview with Rudd Guillit on the Guardian recently plugging his knew book about football tactics . In ther interview he said that there are really two types of 4-3-3. The midfield is always a V shape, and it depends on wether the v faces one way, with 2 defensive midfield and one attacking, or the other way, with only one DM. According to him, the second way is more attacking, as more players are able to get forwards. Makes sense to me.

Missed the first 40 minutes, as I didn't realise the kick-off time I saw was local time, not GMT. DOH! Played really well, great movement and should have scored more. I was a bit worried about the rotation, but it seemd to work. If we are playing twice a week for 2 months, then you have to let the sports science guys have some input into the team selection. No point in playing someone who is in the red zone and putting him out for 2 months. Proper strickers finish from Charlie, and a good substitution at the end, to provide more help against Montero .

In Russia it is going to be a Mansun Family game.

So it is Ok to come on here and moan about your favorite scapegoats after a 3 nil home win, but not Ok for someone who has actaully been to the game to mention that they could not get home due to the incomptence of a management team that should not be left in charge of anything above a Hornby gage. Back to the game. I thought the forward movement was much better and allowed us to by-pass Tadic at times. I would be disappointed if redmond is chosen as one of the front 2 against Swansea after that. Martina is a strange player, in that his normal crossing can be woeful, yet he can produce and inch perfect cross with the outside of his boot. Midfield looked good, and the defence were rarley in trouble. Yoshida made some great interceptions, and one horro back-pass. I think we need some Japanese code words to let him know when he is safe to roll one back to the keeper.

Good perfromance, the diamond worked quite well. Long should have had a hat-trick, but the 2 decisions at the end, not giving a blatant free kick right in fron of the lino, and them a very soft penalty. Gutted .

That, and the Allardyce sung to Coldplay have scarred me.

£48.50 from Bordeaux

Forster/McCarthy Cedric/Martina/Pied, Fonte/Yoshida, VVD/Gardos, Bertrand/Targett, Hojbjerg/JWP, Romeu/Clasie, Davis/Reed Redmond/JRod, Long/Austin, Boufal/Tadic That looks a resonable squad, with cover in all positions. In an ideal world, I would like to have seen Reed or JWP go out on loan and someone with a bit more muscle brought in. It is a bit of a gamble with the fitness of Austin and JayRod. Jay used to play in a postion thar would suit the diamond, but Austin not so much. Austin would however give us the option of changing formations. Remy or Bony might have improved us, but there is no quarantee that they will return to their previous form. Think James Beattie, great for Saints and then steadilly worse at Everton and Stoke.

The defence should be the same as last year, so no real problems there, but having only one DM ( Romeu ) can leave them exposed. As for the rest of the midfield, Peire can play anywhere, although he did get caught in posession a couple of times yesterday. The wide midfield in this system should be for box to box players. JWP, Claise, Reed and Davis are not DM's and they are certainly not AM's to sit a t the top of the diamiond. That only leaves box to box as an option, or reverting to the Koeman system where the AM does a lot of defensive work and doesn;t create so much. Up front we have options, with 2 or 3 players that could get into double figures, if fit. The real problem seems to be giving these forwards freedom to get wide if they want to. Hopefully that can br worked on in the next 2 weeks. Don't kid youselves that it was all perfect under Ron. If you scan back to last season there were lots of complaints about Tadic on the right and Mane's position too. Puel did change the game in the 2nd half, by swopping Pierre over to the left side and offer Targett some protection, and the Tadic substitution did bring Redmond into the game more.