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Yes, no, don't know, don't give a shit.

It's hilarious. The boy's all over the place. So desperate to be right. #prayformatty

Move away from God. Faith runs deeper, and we all have it. We all cross our fingers. We all hope. That's faith at its simplest - everyone puts faith in something that isn't them.

Answer the question. At what point do you say that babies start to develop faith in something other than themselves?

Mate, this ain't a theological debate. It's a really simple point that a baby is born with no opinion on anything. You can call that what you want. On the wider point, there's a variety of theories on what defines atheism. Some point say there is agnosticism, others dispute it. Who gives a shit.

Of course its relevant. A baby has no idea of the concept of God, thus their is neither belief nor disbelief. Let's move this along. At what point do you say that babies start to develop faith in something other than themselves?

I think we agree that babies are born neither believing nor disbelieving in anything. You can slap whatever title you want om that, the principle is agreed.

Simple yes or know Matty - do you agree that a child is born with neither a belief nor disbelief in God or religion? The title slapped on it is irrelevant.

On your latter point. Proving the existence of a god will never happen as one can never scientifically prove the existence of faith, and by extension, who or what - if anything) they put their faith in. The truth though is that we all live by faith of sorts, the difference is the extent to which we acknowledge or accept that.

You're intelligent enough to appreciate that there is argument galore about the definition of atheism but, semantics aside, it must be accepted that a person is born with neither a belief nor disbelief in God or religion (the latter not being a requirement to believe in the former).

Glad it's not just me. We're born completely devoid of opinion on race, religion, faith, etc. Everything thereafter is learned, discovered, or imposed.

Yep. They looked a good outfit. Very organised and players who punched well above their reputations. Grillitsch stood out as a very good player.

An atheist disbelieves. We're born neutral, ie with neither a belief in a god or religion, nor a disbelief. To suggest that we're born atheist is as nonsensical as suggesting that we're born with belief.

Weight

I enjoyed that, decent game. Austria unlucky.

My thoughts. I'm not his biggest fan, but he's worth more than that.

No. The MLG and Turkish thing is actually amusing. Your little feud with LD is just irritating.

Fruit

Club

When he became a coach he was a kind of link man between dressing room and management, but not sure about the loan monitoring part, or his current role.

I don't either. I'm a fan of loaning players out to get games at a competitive level. A season at Crewe rather than baby-sitting 17 year old in our under 23's will do him the world of good.

There's logic in that Sue, but the club have as good as said that the policy is to develop them here, and that loans are for players on the way out.

Interesting if true. His contract is running down and he needs to play regularly. Stranger things have happened...and perhaps Lloyd Kelly appeals to us with some kind of deal.

Yep, good change. Has to lead to more open games.