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Reed is a cracking little player. As neat and tidy as Romeu looked last night I cannot see what he offers that Reed can't. Strange business.

I went last Friday and got back yesterday. Going out we got caught in the workers strike at calais and were delayed for about 90 mins. Coming back was a breeze, no hold ups whatsoever.

Indeed. Agents fees, loyalty payments for outgoing players, signing on fees for incoming players, plus the reported £6m to Osvaldo, the extra £25m for Staplewood etc must all be factored in. I reckon we're looking at one cb, possibly on loan, and a loaned in midfielder.

Agreed. For me, I take great pleasure that we can be so competitive on the field despite our budget and ffp restrictions. We're in good shape.

CB, I get your point on terminology but ffp does limit our ability (if the money were available) to compete with the big boys. It's a glass ceiling, or barrier, or whatever. Spurs ffp cap is more than treble ours. Liverpool's is much higher too. That limits our ability to compete with them but we do. Unfortunately we're stuck with these restrictions. Our club have a choice. Either we let players contracts run down then give them away and feed off scraps. Or we sell them once it's clear that they don't want to stay, get decent fees and buy quality replacements that could make the team stronger. We've chosen the latter route and we've implemented it brilliantly. I'm not sure why anyone is questioning our approach.

He'll be a loss, but targett is capable. Big chance for Josh Debayo to stake a claim too.

You're a drama Queen, and answer your own question. We haven't got the means to smash the top 4 and ffp would stand in our way if we did. Thus, league wise at least, there's limited room for progress. We'll want to nibbling at the edges and doing well in cups. I'm happy with that. We don't get "looted". That's a daft comment. We've sold Clyne who's contract was running down. We're selling Morgan who's been a loyal servant and wants to ply his trade at a level we can't get to. We'll get good fees for both.

Osvaldo going will help with ffp more than anything else.

I posted on here last April that the staplewood spend had gone from to £38m from £14m. That was 6 months or so before the figures became public. If he's received £6mil it's a years income plus a mil.

I've no idea what the severance package is but £6mil is a years salary plus a million.

Training ground overspend = £24-25m Del. Car crash stuff.

Wages = £96k

My mate's a Swindon ST holder. He says Stephen's tailed off last season but that Turnbull got better and better. He rates Turnbull as the better prospect but thinks Championsip is his level and league 1 for Stephens.

Good post mate. The number of idiots who label us fans as non fans just because we're able to recognise that our club is smaller than bigger clubs never ceases to amaze me.

To be fair, nothing above suggests that anyone is bothered about another forum. it's just a bit of squabbling with Chertsey / Jeff accusing someone of beating his wife and kids. Perfectly normal Saturday afternoon stuff.

Thanks for the warning. I'll pop over later to see who's character he's dragging through the mud.

Good summary Del. I'd heard much the same but wasn't aware that he was given an ultimatum, just that he had to go. No loss whatsoever.

A quick read of this thread, particularly the outrageous allegations from the idiotic but aptly named unbelievable Jeff, tells me which forum of the two I'd rather frequent. This forum has slid a long, long way. Don't get me wrong it's not the forum itself, just the number of people who post utter b0llocks for the sake of it. Get out and enjoy the sunshine ffs.

I understood it was the Staplewood £24m overspend. I suppose if you add the fees, agents fees and wages of these 2 you've got about 50 million reasons why his employer may have become a tiny bit unhappy.

This is an update thread mate re Clyne and others. Discussing the club that Clyne may be transferred to on a Clyne transfer thread seems reasonable.

I get all that but they're a bigger club than us, have more chance of competing near the top and will pay more. From a players perspective a move there from us is a no brainer. I don't like the fact but it is a fact.

Ha! That's about his limit to be fair.

Yep. A move to Liverpool from us is an upgrade. Bigger ambition, club, stadium, wages, prospects etc. Sad but true.

The frustrating thing is that the talent is there. A year ago I was all for giving him a chance. He had that at Hull and didn't take it. His time's up.

I hope you're right on both, they've been expensive disasters.