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Agreed. He has all sorts of ability and its easy to see why he signed him. Indeed, if he'd applied himself we'd all be sat here wandering when a big club would be snapping him up. It's a real shame how this one went.

Blimey, this was days ago Whitey. I'm not a "soft touch" or "under the thumb". I have a simple choice. 1. Whinge and whine about what I can't do, or 2. Accept that I can't do shit about government policy and enjoy what I can do. It's 2 all day long for me. It's a very peaceful way to live, and I genuinely wouldn't want to be living with frustrations and angst about stuff I can't control. I appreciate there's frustration and pain, we've all been hit by Covid in our own way, but I'll continue to take the positives out of life.

No confusion. Call it what you will. Take Anthony Joshua at a BLM rally last year saying to black people to give priority to supporting black business's. That's not promoting an equal society.

Two of them never played in the same team...one short FB, no drama, both could be a problem. I didn't realise Irwin was so short though, but he was cracking player. The others weren't shabby either. And granted, Cedric was shite.

The "confused" reactions to this post highlights that people don't understand what this about on both sides.

Err, how do you get equality with inequality?

If the BLM movement sought equality it'd be OK. It doesn't. The mantra is pro black, not equality. My politics are a long way left of centre and I see what BLM is about, but can't support its divisive message, and object to it being thrust onto the masses by footy players. A simple, non controversial, non political, message of equality (not just race) such as "equality for all" is something everyone bar the actual racists and loons will get behind. What this thread shows is division, and a lack of recognition of the actual BLM message (or as a minimum, the perception) and an unwillingness to listen to why decent people object to the knee on football.

But he isn't 5 10. He's 5 8. So is KWP. If we play both, half of our back 4 will be exposed in the air. We'll be vulnerable to high balls into both full back areas. You can get away with one side, but both is risky. Add in that JWP is the same height, we will be exposed when defending corners with a lack of height in the team.

Oh come on, you can't compare BLM to the British Legion, and say that both have tenuous political associations. The British Legion is a charity supporting servicemen. It isn't trying to bring about change. BLM, as a movement, is trying to bring about societal change, thus it has a political agenda.

He's been trotting this nonsense out for ages mate, but can't say what the plan is, who's behind it, why, and what they hope to achieve. Bless him.

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Looks decent but his height could be a concern. We struggled with Cedric (same height) at right back.

Yep. Daft words from Vaughan, and a daft decision from the ECB.

I think he would have made it if it wasn't for the Mings/Maguire/TAA situation. Overall though, I'm glad we've taken the opportunity to get a better CB in the squad.

White plays for Brighton. He hasn't been picked because he plays for a bigger team.

Neither. I'd have preferred Lingard or Watkins who'd have more chances of influencing the score.

I thought the same. I was convinced it'd be Lingard or Watkins. I suspect this as much about Maguire cover/replacement as it is a TAA replacement.

Jeez. You're honestly saying JWP wasn't picked so "they" get to see him move clubs?

If this was American football where you can bring a kicker on I'd see your point, but JWP was never going to start so those set pieces would never have got used.

Yep, that's the one. Maguire needs to tweak something in training or whatever to be binned off, otherwise we go in with a squad a man light. Crazy.

I'm not convinced we needed another defender, but with Maguire still crocked and unable to be replaced, this is probably the best pick.

That's correct. Racists are out there, it's a sad part of society. Taking the knee won't end it though, and black players will unfortunately continue to cop it from the minority element. I don't pretend to know the answer, but it seems to me that the more the racists are hearing and reading in the media that their words are having a negative impact, the more they're doing it. I'm not saying that ignoring it will make it go away because it won't, but highlighting appears to be making it worse.

What's socialism got to do with it? BLM is a stand alone political organisation that stands for its own beliefs.

Simple yes or no questions for you: 1. do you acknowledge that the knee is symbolic of BLM? 2.do you acknowledge that BLM is a political movement that stands for something other than racial equality? When you've answered yes to both, we'll address the other points you raise.

Thank you, I'll take a look.