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Thought about it and the answer is no he does not deserve a chance.

A truly titillating thread.

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I feel let down FOR him. And for all of us.

Agree.MLT stood up to the task,whereas many others just watched. He was a victim of his own cult status which made him an invaluable asset to a potential purchaser who had they come out in the open without him - ie TL and Fialka - they would have been greeted with the same derision as MJ. MLT in his over eagerness to promote the club was misled.

The sunglasses were an indication of a flashsod out of his depth, and when they wheeled the penniless Shylock as their backer the credibility was blown.

We have been told several things along the way that have made this bid sound all 'cosy', and promising.I don't think we can take the early indications and information to have been written in a tablet of salt. "Several hundred million",one investor or consortium ?How often has that particular facet of the bid changed ?

The young lad could of course be the founder , or administrator of a football fans forum and driven to insanity, drink or drugs (take your pick) by the posters during the collapse of the club. Events are compounded by either a)abuse he receives after either banning those responsible or b)facing legal proceedings after an antisemitic post during a potential takeover. All characters portrayed are of course entirely fictional and not to be based on anyone living or dead.

Mills,now at Doncaster and valued at £2,5m.Hardly falling off the radar.Infact he's one of the few to succeed after leaving.

Consortium with 19Canteen,and Sundance perhaps ? No perhaps that is no more likely than Lowe and Wilde ever working together.

"FACT", or speculation ? Not that "FACT" isn't also speculation on here,it just means you've heard it somewhere else first.

We have been here before : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13422&highlight=swiss but still no nearer the identity.

Only fractionally more likely a candidate than Paul Allen I would have thought.But who knows ? I thought one of the more credible posters on here - I will refrain from saddling them with the ITK label - suggested it was a wealthy Swiss family,who wanted to invest into SFC (as a "family club " again).So perhaps the Ernesto possibility 'has legs'. Must be other wealthy Swiss families who match the criterion. Presumably we have discounted the Vega possibility. NB: PLEASE DON'T REPLY WITH 'ROBINSON' OR PICTURES OF 'TONI'.

The one on the left, I hope that isn't Michael Svennson in drag.

Yes,back to the bottle !

"north London yobbo", its openly stated the bloke is a Srurs fan. As for running the club or being heavily involved in it,the business credentials listed on here and elsewhere would not inspire confidence to run a business such as Saints.The blokes football background and experience - unless there is more info we are not aware of - is no greater than the that of the coaches who run my kids teams.

Probably the Freudian slip of the day ! It certainly sums up the overwhelming and inevitable response to him.

Agree with this. How bizarre that a chairman who coined the phrase,is now likely to be superceded by a "north London yobbo".I wouldn't want him in charged of an under 9's team let alone Saints.

Started out as reassuring as you say,but now interpreted by many as perhaps attention seeking and ego building.To be fair though we have to say TL is damned if he does,and damned if he does not.In hindsight it might have been best not to have embarked on this line of communication. This last week has fuelled misgivings over Pinnacles credentials,and yes IF they do the deal then I hope they prove our concerns to have been unfounded. Await a new user registered and posting as 'Toblerone Saint' in the next few days !

Some fair and valid points. Track record of those writing on forums is not too impressive . Fialka is indeed a worry,although is better than having no club at all. Yes,I too regret MLT might be setting himself up for a great deal of public humiliation by being too closely associated with this group.At some stage someone wrote that MLT had been instrumental in bringing backers to the table.Now that one has been revealed that just does not seem plausible to me. Would not however want Lowe back.

Agree totally with that.KK would be an inspiration from the outset,Tisdale a longer term option to build the team and club.

It begs the question as to why they wheeled him out to face the media,without fully explaining the situation regarding the involvement of others. Until a satisfactory answer is given,or full details known,it does nothing to restore confidence.Completely the opposite.

After this weeks circus I certainly share your concerns re Pinnacle,and how they have conducted issues to date.

Agree with your conclusion but at an earlier stage 'proof of funds ' must have been made.So either the original proposal was lets say "creative",or there has been a significant change of personnel within or behind the Pinnacle bid.

Is the Saltz bid of the last resort still likely to be around ?